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Software First Sale Doctrine Slashed

Wired.com reports a ruling by a federal appeals court (Adobe Acrobat format) saying that first-sale doctrine is "unavailable to those who are only licensed to use their copies of copyrighted works," which makes it unlawful to resell software distributed under shrink-wrap and click-wrap licenses. As they explain: "The first-sale doctrine of 1909, in its current form, allows the 'owner of a particular copy' of a copyrighted work top sell or dispose of his copy without the copyright owner's authorization. 'The first sale doctrine does not apply to a person who possesses a copy of the copyrighted work without owning it, such as a licensee,' the court ruled." This case was an appeal of a case involving sales of AutoCAD on eBay, and it sounds likely that another appeal will follow. Thanks Aclesius via Slashdot.

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56. Re: Software First Sale Doctrine Slashed Sep 13, 2010, 13:24 Tumbler
 
It's not unreasonable to assume that used sales hurt obscure games more than big games.

If you were purchasing games new before playing them I think you'd understand your error here. People don't spend money on those riskier games, aka Bulletstorm, Vanquish, etc. (new IP's) before first buying the sure things like Call of Duty, madden, Halo, all those games get consumers dollars first. Then if consumers have more dollars they might risk buying those lesser known titles but if they are the same price they will often pass on them altogether preferring to spend money on the larger titles that are more likely to be worth the cost.

Smaller games would basically disappear as competition without used game sales. Without the ability to resell those games in particular, no one would buy them. (they would sell some, but extremely poor)

Getting rid of used games is going to force more money into the big franchises and starve everyone else. I don't see why this isn't painfully obvious looking at the pc game market. Most of the companies making these BBB titles which might be good don't even release them on the PC because there is no reason to spend the money for little or no profit. When you're budgeting for development it makes no sense on a new IP to plan for a PC release unless you're spending mountains of money and can count on manipulating the media so that everyone things it's a good game... Medal of Honor is a good example of this, that is an untested IP and in almost any other case they'd never make that on the PC but the forces behind it are trying to compete with CoD so you either go big or go home.

Battlefield Bad Company was a new idea and they weren't about to bet the farm and try and release that one the pc, it turned out to be a big hit and so the budget was approved to make it available on the pc as well so that is why you guys got it this time around. (Battlefield Bad Company 2) They don't do that shit on consoles because people are happy to take the risk of buying a game they may not like knowing they can trade/sell it.

The game needs to sell when it's totally new, if you tie a ball and chain to it (DRM) it should not be a surprise that people will shy away from "new" games that aren't a big name brand. So you release it on the consoles, see if people like it, then make a sequel and if people like it enough then you can move it onto the pc if the money makes sense.
 
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