InBlack wrote on Sep 7, 2010, 08:13:
My personnel favorite are scientists who dont believe in the possiblility of there being a god, yet believe in multiple dimensions. Ah gotta love bull headed people.
The extra dimensions are not (to the 4 we actually experience) "made up". Its not "belief". They are neccessary in the mathematical model that is used in some theories such as the superstring theory. Do you understand the difference?
I do understand the difference, my point was that someone would believe in something they cannot see, touch, or otherwise prove existed and yet use the same argument in reference to there not being a god. That is why its called a theroy and not a law. Even sceitific laws get proven wrong. Also I am talking about the possiblilty of there being a god, just as possible as there being mutiple dimensions.
InBlack wrote on Sep 7, 2010, 08:13:
q[Science has NOTHING to do with religion. Proving that scientists make mistakes is nothing exceptional or new. People make mistakes all the time. Please believe all you want. But do not bring logic or science into it. It has nothing to do with any of it.
This is where we disagree. It does when people use science for their proof that god dosent exist, the argument being that you cannot prove that a god exsits. At one time you couldnt prove atoms existed either, but they still existed. Perhaps we just havent found a way to prove god dosent exist yet. Perhaps we never will.
People do make mistakes all the time. That point being that scientist make mistakes just the same and are still capable of making them even with everything they know now. So science could be wrong and god could exist.
People's beliefs will always be threatened by science for one simple reason. Science is not about belief. It is about testability, logic and truth. In fact science exist so people dont have to believe, it exists so that they can KNOW.
For example I dont believe that the Earth is round. Or that it revolves around the Sun. I know those things.
Again I disagre, science is a belief, based a data collected and tested. It is not based on truth because science is not infallible and has proven to be wrong on beleived truths in the past. So your truth is only as good as your data.
Using your example: at one time Galileo tried to explain the same thing you know to someone standing on flat ground, watching the sun rise over the horizon. The man on the flat ground knew Galileo was wrong by the data he had available, the flat ground and the moving sun. Galileo was right, but it didnt appear so to the man standing on the ground.