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19. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 22, 2010, 18:38 Jerykk
 
I have no problem with PC games being ported to consoles. Problems arise when PC games are compromised by their presence on consoles, though, as developers usually cater to the lowest common denominator. This why 360 is typically the lead platform in any multiplatform game and why the strengths of the PC are rarely taken advantage of.  
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18. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 22, 2010, 15:45 Cram
 
At this point in time, potions are in the game and they've been slightly WoW'ified. I at no time since the games' announcement recall any statement that potions were gone, though I admit I haven't read every single Bashiok blue post or read absolutely every Jay Wilson interview.

Agreed that it would be a mistake not to bring it over, from the business side of things, as long as it does not come at the expense of the PC version. In other words, removing features from the PC version because they wouldn't work in the console version. Sure they're designing it as a PC only game right now (as far as we know), that definitely does not mean that things won't change and that sacrifices will have to be made.

Z9000 wrote on Aug 22, 2010, 13:53:
when they announced potions were gone and you would instead run over things on the ground

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17. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 22, 2010, 13:53 Z9000
 
Sacred 2 did a really good job of bringing ARPG to consoles.
As for Diablo 3, when they announced potions were gone and you would instead run over things on the ground, that clearly made me think that was a console friendly change. I think it would be exremely bad busniess not to make it for the consoles. Especially considering the next gen of consoles will be virtually as impressive as most middle to high end self made PCs. The tech cieling is here... and consoles, like laptops, are catching up every generation.
 
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16. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 21, 2010, 22:22 Jerykk
 
Though fighters as a whole are a niche genre, MK is in an even smaller niche compared to Tekken and Street Fighter. Hell, even compared to Virtua Fighter, Soul Calibur, and Tatsunoko they're small. The 90s are gone.

Where are you getting this nonsense from? MK vs DC sold 1.9 million units (http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1022080/000095015209003529/c50336e10vk.htm). MK is one of the most mainstream videogame series out there. Jagged Alliance is niche. MK is not.

You may not like MK but that bears no relevance to this argument.
 
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15. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 21, 2010, 16:10 Zyrxil
 
Jerykk wrote on Aug 21, 2010, 00:10:
Well someone has delusions about how big his franchise is.

Except for the fact that Mortal Kombat is one of the most well-known franchises in the world. If they can make Capcom vs SNK, Marvel vs Capcom, Mortal Kombat vs DC, Tekken vs Street Fighter, Tatsunoko vs Capcom and X-Men vs Street Fighter, I'm pretty sure they could do MK vs Street Fighter.
Though fighters as a whole are a niche genre, MK is in an even smaller niche compared to Tekken and Street Fighter. Hell, even compared to Virtua Fighter, Soul Calibur, and Tatsunoko they're small. The 90s are gone.
 
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14. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 21, 2010, 10:12 space captain
 
Fibrocyte wrote on Aug 21, 2010, 09:53:
The incessant whining about consoles on bluesnews is ridiculous.

and yet the incessant whining about the incessant whining is not quite ridiculous but instead just silly
 
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13. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 21, 2010, 10:06 Verno
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Aug 21, 2010, 00:47:
I couldn't disagree more.
Anytime a game is done on multiple platforms, you program for the lowest perfoming item.....and that is the console.

If they want to do that. Program 100% for the pc, then port it over.

Diablo would be fine on the consoles, it's not exactly a demanding game. The only way the PC version would be impacted is if the Wii was the lead platform. By the time Diablo 3 comes out we will have new consoles anyways which means better hardware and thus it probably wouldn't impact development of the PC version.
 
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12. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 21, 2010, 09:53 Fibrocyte
 
They are programming for the PC - so... WTF is it you're trying to say?

The incessant whining about consoles on bluesnews is ridiculous.
 
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11. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 21, 2010, 00:47 xXBatmanXx
 
Verno wrote on Aug 20, 2010, 21:34:
Diablo is the only franchise Blizzard owns that wouldn't suffer on the consoles and development there probably wouldn't impact the PC version either.

I couldn't disagree more.
Anytime a game is done on multiple platforms, you program for the lowest perfoming item.....and that is the console.

If they want to do that. Program 100% for the pc, then port it over.
 
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10. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 21, 2010, 00:34 Dr. D. Schreber
 
Zyrxil wrote on Aug 20, 2010, 20:33:
Mortal Kombat Dev Thinks MK vs. Street Fighter is "Inevitable".

Well someone has delusions about how big his franchise is.

It was actually on-track at one point, but red tape killed it and Capcom ended up going with Marvel.
 
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9. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 21, 2010, 00:18 Verno
 
Zyrxil wrote on Aug 20, 2010, 23:55:
Verno wrote on Aug 20, 2010, 21:34:
Diablo is the only franchise Blizzard owns that wouldn't suffer on the consoles and development there probably wouldn't impact the PC version either.

That being said, please don't try and turn every Blizzard IP into console games because most of them simply don't work.
I don't see how. I mean, for melee characters you could use a stick to attack in directions fine, but using abilities that require targeting would suck.

They did it rather clumsily with Sacred 2 so it can be done. I'm sure it could be something dumb like hold down RB to turn the cursor into placement mode or something. Better yet they could actually use the motion peripherals for something like this instead of Just Dance Hero 3: You're Casual. Anyways it could be done, maybe not done to perfection but good enough that people would buy it.
 
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8. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 21, 2010, 00:10 Jerykk
 
Well someone has delusions about how big his franchise is.

Except for the fact that Mortal Kombat is one of the most well-known franchises in the world. If they can make Capcom vs SNK, Marvel vs Capcom, Mortal Kombat vs DC, Tekken vs Street Fighter, Tatsunoko vs Capcom and X-Men vs Street Fighter, I'm pretty sure they could do MK vs Street Fighter.
 
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7. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 20, 2010, 23:55 Zyrxil
 
Verno wrote on Aug 20, 2010, 21:34:
Diablo is the only franchise Blizzard owns that wouldn't suffer on the consoles and development there probably wouldn't impact the PC version either.

That being said, please don't try and turn every Blizzard IP into console games because most of them simply don't work.
I don't see how. I mean, for melee characters you could use a stick to attack in directions fine, but using abilities that require targeting would suck.
 
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6. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 20, 2010, 23:20 Wallshadows
 
Am I the only one who remembers Diablo for the PSone? It really wasn't a bad port considering they were able to bring most of the features over including the randomly generated levels, mashing a keyboard on a controller and coop.

I would much rather them focus on the PC side of things but not a lot has changed since the first Diablo formula so I wouldn't be surprised if, somewhere down the line, a port was released.
 
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5. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 20, 2010, 21:51 Bhruic
 
You know, when they are going to put 'Can Be Done' in quotations, you'd expect that someone from Blizzard actually said that it 'Can Be Done', as opposed to saying 'would be the easiest'. But, then, I don't write sensationalist headlines for a living. Luckily, the same quote includes 'it's not something we're pursuing right now', so I'm not worried about it in the least.  
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4. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 20, 2010, 21:34 Verno
 
Diablo is the only franchise Blizzard owns that wouldn't suffer on the consoles and development there probably wouldn't impact the PC version either.

That being said, please don't try and turn every Blizzard IP into console games because most of them simply don't work.
 
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3. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 20, 2010, 21:31 ASJD
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Aug 20, 2010, 21:24:
Diablo III 'Can Be Done' for Consoles.

I think MOST of us learned somewhere around early childhood via kindergarten or close - that just because you CAN do something, DOES NOT MEAN YOU SHOULD

Except Diablo 3 would work great on consoles and would sell millions. Blizzard should definitely do console versions!
 
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2. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 20, 2010, 21:24 xXBatmanXx
 
Diablo III 'Can Be Done' for Consoles.

I think MOST of us learned somewhere around early childhood via kindergarten or close - that just because you CAN do something, DOES NOT MEAN YOU SHOULD
 
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1. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 20, 2010, 20:33 Zyrxil
 
Mortal Kombat Dev Thinks MK vs. Street Fighter is "Inevitable".

Well someone has delusions about how big his franchise is.
 
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