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PC Hardware Outsells Consoles

PC Gaming Alliance Releases Newest Horizons Hardware Research has data from the occasionally dormant PC advocates on PC gaming hardware sales outstripping all console hardware sales combined, using a discreet GPU as the criterion for a gaming rig (thanks Computer and Video Games) Here's an excerpt:

Among the key findings: Annual shipment volumes for the PC Gaming hardware market in 2009 were over two times larger than the combined Wii™, PlayStation® 2, PlayStation® 3 and Xbox 360® console units shipped in the same period. This trend for the PC Gaming hardware market to outpace all console shipments combined is expected to continue through the forecasted period of the research. In addition, revenues from consumer PCs capable of gaming that shipped with a discrete GPU (excludes Netbooks and integrated graphics-based PCs) totaled approximately $54.6 billion in 2009 and are forecasted to grow to $61.3 billion by 2014. These revenue figures are based on an estimated 61.5 million PCs (Desktop and Laptops) shipped in 2009 that can largely be associated with PC gaming as a key usage scenario.

The report also estimates the worldwide number of consumers gaming with discrete graphics solutions on their PCs (Desktop and Notebooks) to be 212.6 million for 2009 and expects this to grow to about 322 million by 2014. The report also includes detailed breakouts of various PC configurations (e.g. Basic, Mass Market, etc), by form factor and by geographic territory.

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23. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 18:40 Porn-O-Matic
 
ASeven wrote on Aug 6, 2010, 18:06:

What? What kind of shit is this? Good god, the myth that PC gamers keep upgrading their hardware each week has got to stop. Hardware for the PC is no longer as expensive as it was and it lasts a long time now, seeing that most PC games are ports that don't require a lot of power to run.

Agreed. I still run with a single 8800GTX that I bought when it first came out and I'm only just now starting to look at the current video card offerings by ATI and nVidia. I buy new PC games regularly and the only one that I've demo'd recently that brought my 8800 to it's knees was Metro 2033. Otherwise, I have little if any trouble running the vast majority of games that I buy. As for other upgrades, I did rebuild my system with a Core i7 920 and DDR 3 about a year ago, but other than that, it's just a matter of buying bigger hard drives to keep up with my growing collection of hi-def porn.
 
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22. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 18:06 ASeven
 
Jdrez wrote on Aug 6, 2010, 17:27:
Considering a single good video card can cost as much or more as an entire console it's no surprise.

Let alone all the other components people swap out on a regular basis.

What? What kind of shit is this? Good god, the myth that PC gamers keep upgrading their hardware each week has got to stop. Hardware for the PC is no longer as expensive as it was and it lasts a long time now, seeing that most PC games are ports that don't require a lot of power to run.
 
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21. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 17:59 Draugr
 
StingingVelvet wrote on Aug 6, 2010, 15:33:
LemonJoose wrote on Aug 6, 2010, 14:43:
I have an Xbox 360 myself and have probably spent upwards of $2500 on games over the last few years, while my PC purchases have dwindled to maybe $100 per year over the last couple of years.

Why?


Poor decision making.
 
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20. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 17:27 Jdrez
 
Considering a single good video card can cost as much or more as an entire console it's no surprise.

Let alone all the other components people swap out on a regular basis.
 
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19. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 16:44 StingingVelvet
 
ASJD wrote on Aug 6, 2010, 16:03:
Similar situation but not quite so disproportionate here. Have about $6000 in Xbox 360 games, but I spend a few hundred on PC games yearly.

Biggest factors for me lately are 1. the games that come out on 360 before PC and 2. the games that are ported so poorly to PC that my 360 manages to run those games better than my decent dual core CPU and GTX260...

Hmmm... most games still come out at the same time on all platforms though. And I doubt a dual core and GTX 260 can't top 720p (or lower) with little to no AA.

You sure those are the reasons?
 
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18. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 16:23 PHJF
 
You have 100 $60 360 games? You have incredibly bad standards.  
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17. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 16:03 ASJD
 
StingingVelvet wrote on Aug 6, 2010, 15:33:
LemonJoose wrote on Aug 6, 2010, 14:43:
I have an Xbox 360 myself and have probably spent upwards of $2500 on games over the last few years, while my PC purchases have dwindled to maybe $100 per year over the last couple of years.

Why?

Similar situation but not quite so disproportionate here. Have about $6000 in Xbox 360 games, but I spend a few hundred on PC games yearly.

Biggest factors for me lately are 1. the games that come out on 360 before PC and 2. the games that are ported so poorly to PC that my 360 manages to run those games better than my decent dual core CPU and GTX260...
 
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16. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 15:58 zirik
 
LittleMe wrote on Aug 6, 2010, 15:00:
I think most of you have it sort of wrong. Most PC's that play games are playing web games and shit that us hardcore gamers wouldn't consider as a game machine. Also it's not just software sales either. Huge amounts of ad revenue are generated from web games.

PC gaming isn't nearly so homogeneous as the consoles. Think outside the box. Just use a mouse & keyboard while you are outside the box.

I'd bet that theoretical sales figures are important to publishers. If there are 400m+ PC's out there, that's a vast potential market and that number alone can bring investment. So what, CoD12 won't be a native PC game. Could care less.


ad revenue from web based games have not attracted big publishers so your assumption that it makes lots of money from ad is wrong. in fact the opposite is happening. we see activision and other publishers itching to get started on subscription based gaming with an initial investment on a paid copy of their games.
 
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15. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 15:55 ASeven
 
Is the PCGA still relevant? These guys are a shame to their name, they do nothing to push PC gaming nor promote it to the publishers.  
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14. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 15:49 Kxmode
 
Creston wrote on Aug 6, 2010, 15:34:
And smartphones outsell everything by a factor of probably 6 or 7. I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean, exactly.

It means, unlike Smartphones, PC has been and will always continue to be a legitimate gaming platform.
 
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13. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 15:34 Creston
 
And smartphones outsell everything by a factor of probably 6 or 7. I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean, exactly.

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12. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 15:33 StingingVelvet
 
LemonJoose wrote on Aug 6, 2010, 14:43:
I have an Xbox 360 myself and have probably spent upwards of $2500 on games over the last few years, while my PC purchases have dwindled to maybe $100 per year over the last couple of years.

Why?
 
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11. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 15:26 ASJD
 
Oh, you went to Google.com? Well they just bought some casual game developers so your hit traffic counts as gaming money!  
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10. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 15:00 LittleMe
 
I think most of you have it sort of wrong. Most PC's that play games are playing web games and shit that us hardcore gamers wouldn't consider as a game machine. Also it's not just software sales either. Huge amounts of ad revenue are generated from web games.

PC gaming isn't nearly so homogeneous as the consoles. Think outside the box. Just use a mouse & keyboard while you are outside the box.

I'd bet that theoretical sales figures are important to publishers. If there are 400m+ PC's out there, that's a vast potential market and that number alone can bring investment. So what, CoD12 won't be a native PC game. Could care less.

 
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9. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 14:49 Verno
 
VoodooV wrote on Aug 6, 2010, 14:34:
I don't see any proof that this "Gaming hardware" is being used for gaming.

The first poster nailed it...software sales are what matters.

Yeah I would love to herald this as a victory for PC gaming but it's really just a deceptive press release from an absent minded association of companies who don't even really contribute much to the industry.
 
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8. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 14:43 LemonJoose
 
My mother has a discrete GPU inside her HP notebook. She has spent a grand total of about $20 buying games in the last 2 years. I bought her Zuma and Bookworm and a couple of other $5-10 PopCap games, and she has literally spent all of her gaming time on Zuma, Bookworm and the solitaire card cames that came bundled with Vista.

I have an Xbox 360 myself and have probably spent upwards of $2500 on games over the last few years, while my PC purchases have dwindled to maybe $100 per year over the last couple of years.
 
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7. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 14:34 VoodooV
 
I don't see any proof that this "Gaming hardware" is being used for gaming.

The first poster nailed it...software sales are what matters.
 
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6. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 14:11 Steele Johnson
 
That's only because you can't upgrade to a newer console.  
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5. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 13:56 zirik
 
it seems they did not differentiate between consumer sales and business sales which would lead to a false size of the gaming market for the pc. they should take into account all other items normally attached to pc gaming rigs like additional hard drive and memory. blue posted a news a few days back that hard drive sales are down this year.  
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4. Re: PC Hardware Outsells Consoles Aug 6, 2010, 13:43 Sepharo
 
Zyrxil wrote on Aug 6, 2010, 13:32:
Plus, these numbers are obscenely optimistic in what it counts as gaming hardware. Super-budget models only theoretically capable of gaming (and netbooks of all things) don't count!

Netbooks were specifically mentioned as being excluded.
 
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