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Dragon Age II Character Changes

BioWare officially announces Dragon Age II, saying the just revealed fantasy-themed RPG sequel is scheduled for release in March 2011 for Windows, Xbox 360, and PlayStation 3. It turns out the sequel will not feature the character customization of the original Dragon Age: Origins, and like Mass Effect 2 will limit the player to choosing between a male or female version of the human character. Word is: "Dragon Age 2 thrusts players into the role of Hawke, a penniless refugee who rises to power to become the single most important character in the world of Dragon Age. Known to be a survivor of the Blight and the Champion of Kirkwall, the legend around Hawke’s rise to power is shrouded in myth and rumor. Featuring an all-new story spanning 10 years, players will help tell that tale by making tough moral choices, gathering the deadliest of allies, amassing fame and fortune, and sealing their place in history. The way you play will write the story of how the world is changed forever." A discussion on the BioWare Social Network (thanks nin via Kotaku) confirms the situation, which has lead to some outcry with fans unhappy with the change. The announcement is accompanied by a couple of pieces of concept art.

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36. Re: Dragon Age 2 Character Changes Jul 9, 2010, 05:45 Eldaron Imotholin
 
Jerykk wrote on Jul 9, 2010, 02:09:
To be honest, I am one of those that felt like the wide option of characters made the main character more shallow than the other way around. Sure, some guys treated you with somewhat less respect when you were and elf.. or with more respect when you were a noble.. but that was it. Was that shit (plus the 20 minutes unique starting chapter) worth not having a voiced character, really..?

Voiced character = fewer dialogue options and less potential for personalization. This is why DA2 only lets you play as a human. Bioware doesn't have the time or resources to do full voices for an elf male & female, human male & female and dwarf male & female player character.

I also don't really understand how you can view the lack of voice-acting as shallow. Voice acting is completely superficial. Conversely, the ability to choose from more dialogue options + more character customization = more depth. In an RPG, your character is defined by the choices (whether it be the manner in which you speak or your actions) you make and if you have to sacrifice choice for full voice acting, that results in a more shallow character.

One could also argue that voice acting actually detracts from the overall immersion because your character's voice likely isn't the same voice that you'd imagine your character would have. RPGs have always required a certain level of imagination from their players and that's the way it should be. Your character should represent you, not the other way around.

The thing here is, Jerykk, that if it wasn't for all those in the end meaningless Origins Bioware would've had the time and resources to give your character a voice while keeping all the benefits you mentioned of having no voiced character. That was my whole point. That's why I see the benefit of no more origins and just one character. It's fully voiced + keeping the same depth and as much dialogue as an Origin had (at least that's what it could've been with DA1 if it wasn't for the Origins. Considering they expect DA2 to be done next March, I doubt we can expect that much anyway).
 
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