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On MW2 Bonuses

Gamasutra reports that Activision has awarded performance bonuses intended for former Infinity Ward executives Jason West and Vince Zampella to the employees who have remained with Infinity Ward "who did not allegedly attempt to steal company secrets." They quote community rep and former game journalist Dan Amrich in a Discussion about Activision Facebook Page referring to "Vince and Jason's surreptitious attempts to photocopy and scan sensitive documents." Not that they are looking to stem the exodus of IW employees with cash, but Dan adds: "more people will probably go too, looking for new situations. Maybe they will join Respawn, maybe not. I'm confused, because by leaving, they are giving up their bonus -- and the more people that leave, the bigger the bonus gets for the people who stay."

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14. Re: On MW2 Bonuses Apr 23, 2010, 01:58 Creston
 
Beamer wrote on Apr 23, 2010, 00:57:
Ehm, I'm fairly sure that's illegal, unless this bonus is somehow tied to them being in the employ of Activision.

Duh.

Ask anyone in the industry: if you leave the company before the date bonuses are paid out then you forfeit your bonus.
It's the same in nearly every industry. You need to be a part of the industry when bonuses are paid to get your bonus. It's not commission, in which you get it for making a sale.

So anyone saying this is shady is really, really, really, really incorrect.
For a while people speculated that Activision fired them to avoid paying the bonus. Now Activision is saying they still paid the same amount of bonus they would have before, only distributed to fewer people.

This is not a way to force people to remain. Bonuses are contractually obligated on a certain date. Stay to that date and get your bonus. Leave before and forfeit (which is why, when this went down, I speculated a mass exodus whenever bonuses are paid. Seems like no one waited.)
Again, talk to anyone in a bonus-driven industry. Video games, investment banking, happens everywhere. Hell, most of you in other industries get year-end bonuses based on performance, right? If you quit on December 1st do you expect that Christmas bonus to still be paid?

Is this a date bonus? I'm pretty sure that so far the lawsuits have been talking about a form of commission for the fact that MW2 made a BILLION DOLLARS. I know that Dev studios don't always get commission anymore over their games (maybe nobody gets that anymore), some of them just are salaried, but it seemed that wasn't the case here. It seemed that IW were due a portion of the sales.

As for a Christmas bonus, sure, if it's specifically a Christmas bonus then you don't get it if you're not there at Christmas. However, my company pays a yearly performance bonus, and if you leave at December 1st, they pay you 11/12th of the bonus that everybody else gets. It's a pro-rated bonus, not a 'roster bonus'.

If the IW employees were really that fucking dumb, that they signed a contract in which they ONLY got a bonus if they were still employed two months after a game was finished, then they deserve to get nothing. Seriously. You work your ass off for X amount of years, the game makes enough money to fucking BUY a country, and because the publisher fires your ass a day before the bonus is due, you don't get anything? That'd be the dumbest fucking thing ever.

You're saying that happens throughout the game industry?

Developers need to start getting themselves some agents to negotiate their contracts for them. That's just the height of insanity.

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