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Re: The used game market is just capitalism at work. |
Mar 27, 2010, 04:01 |
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I find the "used" game market to be more financially impactful of game sales and the business of games than outright piracy. That's a potential consumer who has money, is willing to spend it on a game they want to play, but are ignorant of where their money is actually going and what impact that has. This. It actually offends me when someone has the audacity to criticize piracy while openly admitting to buying and/or selling most of their games used. When you buy or sell used games, it reeks of self-indulgent complacency. "Oh, I don't steal games, that would be wrong. I buy all my games! Sure, I buy them all used and sell them when I finish them but that's not illegal so it's okay. I'm such a moral person!" If you're more concerned about saving money than rewarding the creators of the games you enjoy, you might as well go all the way and just pirate them. Same end result (developers not seeing a penny), only you don't get the satisfaction of upholding your convenient "morality" by hiding behind the law.
But, on a personal level...I get it and I don't hold any animosity towards someone who buys "used". My animosity is towards the people who sell "used" games, because in reality what they're doing is re-distributing a game in a way that ensures no money is going back to the people who make that game. Err, not so much this. What's the difference between someone who buys used games and someone who sells used games? Developers don't see a penny from either transaction and neither the seller nor the buyer care about the developer.
Someone who illegally distrubutes copies of a game or someone who freely downloads a game is much more personally insulting to me as a developer. It's the giant fat middle finger of "your game is good enough for me to want to play, but I'm too damn cheap to want to give you any money for it" that I find infuriating. Problematic logic there. The minimal effort required to download a game for free does not provide an accurate measure of a game's quality, nor does it provide any meaningful measure of interest. If something is free (legally or not), people will take it, even if they have only the slightest interest in playing the game. There is no risk and no investment required so why wouldn't they? But again, a download alone does not mean they think your game is good or worth paying for.
Now, if someone downloads your game, plays it, loves it, beats it and still refuses to pay you, that's a good reason to be insulted.
As the creators of games, I feel it should be our unquestionable right to decide who does and who does not get to play what we've worked so hard to make. Can't really agree with you there. Videogame development is about making products and as a business, you have very little control over who uses your products. People should not pay you for the "privilege" of playing your game. They should pay you only if you've crafted an experience that they've enjoyed. Games are not created equal and developers should be rewarded as such; good developers deserve more money than lousy developers. To expect people to pay the same price for all games (regardless of quality) leads to mediocrity and the prioritizing of marketing and hype over quality. |
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Mar 26, 12:02 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Ruffiana |
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Mar 26, 12:03 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
BobBob |
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Mar 26, 17:35 |
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Dev |
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Mar 26, 12:07 |
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Blackhawk |
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Mar 26, 21:41 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Ruffiana |
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Mar 26, 12:24 |
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Lorcin |
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Mar 26, 21:33 |
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Mar 26, 12:03 |
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Mac |
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Mar 26, 12:11 |
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Blackhawk |
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Mar 26, 12:27 |
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Beamer |
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Mar 26, 12:34 |
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PHJF |
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Mar 26, 12:42 |
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Beamer |
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Mar 26, 12:46 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 26, 12:54 |
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Beamer |
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Mar 26, 13:14 |
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I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 26, 13:23 |
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Stolk |
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Mar 26, 13:47 |
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^Drag0n^ |
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Mar 26, 13:57 |
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Blackhawk |
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Mar 28, 02:15 |
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Mar 26, 13:44 |
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Mar 26, 17:16 |
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Mar 26, 12:10 |
Re: Free Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun and Firestorm |
Tavil |
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Mar 26, 12:21 |
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Mar 26, 12:39 |
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Mar 26, 13:33 |
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Mar 26, 13:43 |
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Verno |
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Mar 26, 13:49 |
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Mar 26, 12:25 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
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Mar 26, 12:41 |
Let's burn down the libraries too! |
I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 26, 12:45 |
Re: Let's burn down the libraries too! |
Beamer |
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Mar 26, 12:46 |
Re: Let's burn down the libraries too! |
Verno |
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Mar 26, 12:55 |
Re: Let's burn down the libraries too! |
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Mar 26, 13:06 |
Re: Let's burn down the libraries too! |
Verno |
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Mar 26, 13:12 |
Re: Let's burn down the libraries too! |
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Mar 26, 13:16 |
The plaintiff is a shill but who for? |
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Mar 26, 13:23 |
Re: Let's burn down the libraries too! |
I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 26, 13:26 |
Re: Let's burn down the libraries too! |
Fang |
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Mar 26, 13:35 |
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Verno |
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Mar 26, 13:50 |
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Mar 26, 13:52 |
Re: Let's burn down the libraries too! |
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Mar 26, 19:18 |
Re: Let's burn down the libraries too! |
Bludd |
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Mar 26, 20:10 |
Re: Let's burn down the libraries too! |
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Mar 26, 22:05 |
Re: Let's burn down the libraries too! |
Bludd |
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Mar 26, 22:28 |
The used game market is just capitalism at work. |
I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 26, 22:32 |
Re: The used game market is just capitalism at work. |
Bludd |
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Mar 26, 23:12 |
Re: The used game market is just capitalism at work. |
jdreyer |
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Mar 27, 00:12 |
Steam forbids resale of games. |
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Mar 27, 00:27 |
Re: The used game market is just capitalism at work. |
Ruffiana |
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Mar 27, 04:01 |
Re: The used game market is just capitalism at work. |
Jerykk |
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Mar 27, 14:54 |
Re: The used game market is just capitalism at work. |
shponglefan |
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Mar 26, 23:26 |
Re: The used game market is just capitalism at work. |
jdreyer |
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Mar 27, 00:01 |
Your reasoning is flawed. |
I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 27, 00:05 |
Re: Your reasoning is flawed. |
shponglefan |
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Mar 27, 00:28 |
Re: Your reasoning is flawed. |
I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 27, 00:43 |
Re: Your reasoning is flawed. |
shponglefan |
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Mar 27, 01:04 |
Re: Your reasoning is flawed. |
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Mar 27, 21:05 |
Re: Your reasoning is flawed. |
shponglefan |
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Mar 28, 00:15 |
That price is too high! |
I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 26, 16:18 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
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Mar 26, 17:39 |
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Dev |
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Mar 26, 19:36 |
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Beamer |
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Mar 26, 20:12 |
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Mar 26, 20:25 |
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PHJF |
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Mar 26, 23:33 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Ruffiana |
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Mar 26, 23:18 |
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shponglefan |
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Mar 27, 13:35 |
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Mar 26, 23:08 |
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shponglefan |
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Mar 27, 14:29 |
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Mar 27, 14:56 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
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Mar 27, 15:00 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
DG |
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Mar 27, 19:59 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Jerykk |
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Mar 27, 20:36 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 27, 21:43 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Jerykk |
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Mar 27, 22:03 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
shponglefan |
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Mar 27, 23:11 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
PHJF |
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Mar 27, 23:42 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Jerykk |
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Mar 28, 00:02 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
shponglefan |
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Mar 27, 23:40 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 28, 00:12 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Jerykk |
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Mar 28, 00:47 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 28, 16:06 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
shponglefan |
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Mar 27, 20:54 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
shponglefan |
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Mar 26, 12:26 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Verno |
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Mar 26, 12:30 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Lorcin |
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Mar 26, 12:34 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Verno |
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Mar 26, 12:39 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Flatline |
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Mar 26, 12:30 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Creston |
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Mar 26, 12:31 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
mch |
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Mar 26, 13:28 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Creston |
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Mar 26, 12:34 |
Class Action Nonsense |
I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 26, 13:13 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Verno |
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Mar 26, 13:18 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Blackhawk |
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Mar 26, 13:51 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Verno |
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Mar 26, 16:18 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Fang |
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Mar 26, 14:16 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Verno |
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Mar 26, 14:49 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Beamer |
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Mar 26, 14:56 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
PHJF |
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Mar 26, 15:22 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Beamer |
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Mar 26, 15:33 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
everyone |
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Mar 26, 15:41 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Andrew X |
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Mar 26, 17:46 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
entr0py |
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Mar 26, 21:54 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Lokust |
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Mar 26, 15:54 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Stolk |
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Mar 26, 16:17 |
There's still room left for Godwin's law. |
I've Got The News Blues |
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Mar 26, 16:34 |
Re: There's still room left for Godwin's law. |
Andrew X |
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Mar 26, 21:57 |
Re: There's still room left for Godwin's law. |
Fartacus |
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Mar 26, 17:34 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
entr0py |
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Mar 26, 19:00 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
jdreyer |
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Mar 27, 18:39 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Tumbler |
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Mar 28, 03:12 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Tigger |
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Mar 28, 06:47 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
everyone |
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Mar 28, 09:02 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Tigger |
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Mar 28, 10:00 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
everyone |
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Mar 28, 11:46 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Tigger |
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Mar 28, 16:31 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
everyone |
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Mar 28, 18:58 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
Tumbler |
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Mar 31, 12:44 |
Re: GameStop Used Game Lawsuit |
GameMel |
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