Send News. Want a reply? Read this. More in the FAQ.   News Forum - All Forums - Mobile - PDA - RSS Headlines  RSS Headlines   Twitter  Twitter
Customize
User Settings
Styles:
LAN Parties
Upcoming one-time events:

Regularly scheduled events

On Mouse DPI

Ars Technica has some statements from Robert "Razerguy" Krakoff, the President of Razer, who responds to recent comments by Kim Rom, CMO of SteelSeries, who made the claim that DPI does not matter in gaming mice. Razerguy explains why ultra-high DPI settings are useful for some gamers.

View
27 Replies. 2 pages. Viewing page 1.
< Newer [ 1 2 ] Older >

27. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 27, 2010, 15:40 Sepharo
 
publicENEMY wrote on Mar 26, 2010, 05:49:
stop making confusing comment to make yourself look smart. it only makes you look stupid.

Ironic quote of the month.
sure to prompt convo on definition of irony
 
Avatar 17249
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
26. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 26, 2010, 05:49 publicENEMY
 
I hate Microsoft mouses

okay. i also hate microsoft mouse(especially its laser mouse, own one and hated it)

I think Razer products are made for martians.

whats your points?

But they're all better than a red haired step-child, baby eating, pop-tart loving, 3dfx supporting trackball!

again, whats your point?

stop making confusing comment to make yourself look smart. it only makes you look stupid.
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
25. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 22:13 Nuhauser
 
Anyone seriously into FPS gaming should at least *try* a high DPI mouse. I've been using one for years and I'll never go back. Set the mouse to a high sensitivity and the software to low and you'll find that your game is much smoother. Personally I find it much easier to aim quickly when I have to move the mouse on the desk more.  
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
24. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 19:00 Ray Marden
 
I hate Microsoft mouses.

I think Razer products are made for martians.

But they're all better than a red haired step-child, baby eating, pop-tart loving, 3dfx supporting trackball!
The only - ONLY - thing worse is a pad use. FREAKS.
Offended ,
Ray
 
Avatar 2647
 
Everything is awesome!!!
http://shoutengine.com/GarnettonGames/
I love you, mom.
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
23. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 13:20 ^Drag0n^
 
Chief Business Officer. That's why I wondered WTF a CMO was, as they would be, um, redundant?

My first thought was 'Chief Mouse Officer"?!?!?...now this is just *retarded*. :-)

Actually, I think it's not validating your point, but showing the problem...you can't have multiple people that are ultimately responsible. Eventually there has to be one top dog, otherwise anarchy ensues.

I see this all the time in the Bay Area...everyone wants the title...until it hits the fan. There have even been more than a few noteworthy examples in the news posted here recently.

PS: I'm not "bitching." Rather I'm pointing out how titles are pushing up in a manner that dilutes what the CEO is *supposed* to be (i.e. he whom is ultimately responsible).

PPS: I'm pretty sure this company is the only one with a "CSO."

^D^

This comment was edited on Mar 25, 2010, 14:03.
 
Avatar 55075
 
"Never start a fight, but always finish it."
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
22. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 11:36 Beamer
 
CEO. CFO. CTO. CBO. CIO. Now CMO. What next? CJO?

WTF is CBO? Chief Brand Officer? You've got like 6 of them in the world and it's not catching.
Most major corporations have CEO, CFO, COO, CIO/CTO, CMO, and potentially a CSO.

Which makes sense. Consider what the major divisions of a company are. You have one guy leading it all, your CSO. Then you have a finance division, and need a guy to lead it: CFO. Then you have your daily operations, COO. Next you have your IT, CIO. Now marketing has quickly risen, and none of those people are qualified to head it. CMO. And, in the largest companies, and the smartest ones, you now have people dedicated to strategy: CSO.

You're bitching about titles, then bitching that they're meaningless. So why do you care? The bottom line is you need a way of distinguishing between hierarchy and paygrade, as well as making it clear who's at the top of the decision making pyramid.

As you said, CXO delineates "he whom is ultimately responsible," so you're proving my point. CMO is "he whom is ultimately responsible for marketing."
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
21. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 10:27 Ecthelion
 
ForgedReality wrote on Mar 24, 2010, 23:51:
This is, without a doubt, the best input device ever created. I've used them for years, and I fucking HATE it whenever I am forced to use a regular mouse. They feel archaic and they require a ridiculous amount of desk space. I could never get used to the pick-up-and-drag of a mouse again, and the wrist strain alone is enough to switch.
I use that mouse at work, and I keep meaning to get one for home. Like you, I hate the pick-up-and-drag of mice, and a few years ago I used a Microsoft trackball (I forget which model, but I know they don't make it anymore) for gaming. Time to go back to a trackball I think.
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
20. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 10:19 Zyrxil
 
ForgedReality wrote on Mar 24, 2010, 23:51:
This is, without a doubt, the best input device ever created. I've used them for years, and I fucking HATE it whenever I am forced to use a regular mouse. They feel archaic and they require a ridiculous amount of desk space. I could never get used to the pick-up-and-drag of a mouse again, and the wrist strain alone is enough to switch.
A major point of the mouse is that you're not just using a single goddamn finger. I fucking hate using just one finger, whether it's for a touchpad, trackball, or gamepad.
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
19. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 08:26 MxxCon
 
I'd like to see some scientific data, rather than listen to predictable "our stuff is better because we say it is" PR bullshit
check out http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=1
it's an extremely detailed benchmark of ~10 different mice that definitely shows that dpi is important and that advertised dpi might not be accurate.
too bad this article is rather outdated now and talks about some mice that are no longer for sale.
still, very much worth reading.
 
Avatar 21874
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
18. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 06:29 Nucas
 
Rigs wrote on Mar 25, 2010, 03:51:
I swear by my 6-year-old Logitech MX518...there have been nicer looking and fancier mice out there, but none can beat it in my opinion, and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg either. Goes up to 1600dpi (which I almost never use) and DPI is switchable with two buttons on the top and bottom of the mousewheel and configured in the Logi mouse app (but you don't need the app to use the mouse)...really, what more do you need?

complete agreement. i've been using the 518 since it's release and am still satisfied with it. five buttons, three adjustable sensitivity settings at the hardware level (don't need to install any software to do it). mouse technology really hasn't progressed enough for me to want anything else.

all i can comment on razer about is that i use a razer lycosa keyboard (what can i say, i like shit that lights up but is cheap/light enough to sling around) and have been satisfied with the service they provide. the keyboard's backlighting started to dim and the buttons got finnicky, so i contacted razer and (three years after it's warranty expired) they sent me a new one, without demanding i ship the old one back. how often does that happen anymore?
 
Avatar 49584
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
17. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 05:35 Muscular Beaver
 
I had a Razer mouse with 4k DPI once (Lachesis), but had to send it back because my hand hurt from using it and the mouse wheel button was craptastic.
Still, on max. DPI and low/medium sensitivity it was the smoothest mouse Ive ever used. I was really disappointed that I had to send it back.

Right now I am thinking of trying Razer again, because my last 2 Logitech mice (G9 & G5) are complete garbage.
 
Avatar 12928
 
Oh that is so lame... You will PAY for your use of inappropriate dialogue!
- Mojo Jojo
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
16. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 03:51 Rigs
 
I swear by my 6-year-old Logitech MX518...there have been nicer looking and fancier mice out there, but none can beat it in my opinion, and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg either. Goes up to 1600dpi (which I almost never use) and DPI is switchable with two buttons on the top and bottom of the mousewheel and configured in the Logi mouse app (but you don't need the app to use the mouse)...really, what more do you need?


=-Rigs-=
 
Avatar 14292
 
'I know what you think you are, what you want us to believe! But I don't buy it! For three years now you've been pulling everyone's strings, getting us to do all the work, and you haven't done a damn thing except stand there and look cryptic.'
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
15. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 03:10 DangerDog
 
Intelimouse Optical, can't seem to relinquish it over other mice due to the comfort factor of having large side buttons.  
Avatar 6174
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
14. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 02:36 Dan =0)
 
I still use Logitech marble mice that have the ball in the center, as the Trackmans, for me, cause my thumbs pain after even short-term use. The Marble mouse is perfect for me, as I can just flick my index and/or middle fingers up or down, or to either side and do not have to cramp my thumb. Not to mention, the marble mouse is ambidextrous!

Dan =0)
 
Avatar 21181
 
Shameless self-plug(s): http://drdk.bandcamp.com
http://www.myspace.com/dankupkamusic
http://drdkmusic.net76.net
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
13. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 01:11 StingingVelvet
 
I have my Razer set on 4,000dpi but then I usually lower the sensitivity in-game quite a lot... that seems to work well for me.  
Avatar 54622
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
12. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 00:40 jdreyer
 
Low DPI can be useful in some games too, like Peggle. When your trying to hold the mouse steady while fine tuning a shot with the mousewheel, it's impossible to do when the mouse is set to high DPI.  
Avatar 22024
 
"It's just a bunch of mystic bovine scatology to me." - 1badmf
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
11. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 00:32 ^Drag0n^
 
Can't hold it back: Too many chiefs. Not enough indians.

CEO. CFO. CTO. CBO. CIO. Now CMO. What next? CJO?

CEO was supposed to delineate as "he whom is ultimately responsible", with all VPs reporting to him/her.

Now "Chief" seems to be just another throw-around title in a startup culture where people care more about titles than the product being designed and manufactured. I rarely look at titles anymore. Instead, I ask "What have you accomplished."

Want to be important? DO something important. In the end a title is just that, and won't make you remembered.

^D^
 
Avatar 55075
 
"Never start a fight, but always finish it."
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
10. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 25, 2010, 00:32 Beamer
 
I swore by my logitech trackman... back in 1994 when I was playing Quake on a 486/66 using a free local ISP with a 750 ping and getting under 20 fps.

They then changed the basic shape to one I found less intuitive and ultimately phased the product out almost wholly. I'm no longer certain I could move it as quickly as I can a very high DPI mouse.
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
9. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 24, 2010, 23:51 ForgedReality
 
This is, without a doubt, the best input device ever created. I've used them for years, and I fucking HATE it whenever I am forced to use a regular mouse. They feel archaic and they require a ridiculous amount of desk space. I could never get used to the pick-up-and-drag of a mouse again, and the wrist strain alone is enough to switch.

The only thing they need to do is create a higher DPI version, and they'll have the most perfect product in history. I really wish they'd update it, but I am quite willing to suffer slightly less accurate aim in exchange for such a superb device.
 
Avatar 55267
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
8. Re: On Mouse DPI Mar 24, 2010, 23:31 Beamer
 
I guess this was bound to happen once people stopped being impressed by "Senior Vice President of X". It's a shame nobody stopped to think that X is just an idiom and that we'd actually need more than one letter to represent every job function in the world.

No, it became necessary when marketing became more important. Used to be that finance was the most important function in a company. That's no longer true, as many companies have learned that promoting guys from accounting into other roles isn't all that useful. So you first had the rise of Operations and Information (or Technology.) Now you've got the rise of marketing, as companies have realized that you need someone dedicated in charge of this.

Senior Vice President of X doesn't work because typically you have several of them. Chief X Officer is the highest of that position in the company. Hierarchy just kind of demands the title.
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
27 Replies. 2 pages. Viewing page 1.
< Newer [ 1 2 ] Older >


footer

.. .. ..

Blue's News logo