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Re: Morning Mobilization
Feb 2, 2010, 09:00
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Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 2, 2010, 09:00
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derelict koan wrote on Feb 1, 2010, 20:49:
People who hang out to throw money at company who specialize in stamping a picture of an apple on existing things...surprisingly lucrative...I still have people explaining to me how "Mac is better for graphics," though I can never been able to obtain the logic required to arrive at said iKingdom.

I think the "graphics" thing is just a left-over opinion from the "old days." An art guy told me back in the day the suite of graphics/art software on the Apple OS's were better than their PC counterparts between their User Interface, feature-set, and performance on the PowerPCs compared to Intel chips at the time. IE, some render/filter operations were highly optimized for the PowerPc arch.

Now-a-days I imagine that's no longer the case, though some of the iLife apps are decent and cheap (such as making DVDs and such). However a relative attending art school was told to get an Apple for the software they were using.

Price-wise, it's only worth getting a Mac once it's newly released. At that point the price is semi-competitive to PC brands with similar specs. However in a few weeks/months the PC companies have cheaper AND faster models while Apple is still selling the same old model for the same old price.

The new iMacs are nice *IN THEORY*, however with all of the issues they're having I'm gonna wait to get one.

A super-fast GPU isn't on my list of wants, but a nice all-in-one Quad-Core that can run both OSX and Windows7 is something I'd like. Less desk clutter than my old setups, nice screen real estate, and decent power for programming.

As for the PSU, I find that surprising. On the other hand, the iMacs used to use more mobile/laptop versions of components (2.5" HD and such). However this time I think they went with more Desktop versions of components.

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Re: Morning Mobilization
Feb 2, 2010, 08:41
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Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 2, 2010, 08:41
Feb 2, 2010, 08:41
 
Ray Marden wrote on Feb 1, 2010, 17:51:

Not quite sure what its niche is,
Ray

As stated before, I'm not a fan and won't get one.

But my take on the niche is...

A portable net appliance you can use on the go or around the house.

I imagine its primary uses would be similar to the non-phone functionality of the iPhone: light browsing, reading news, checking weather, TV listings, various iApps, etc. Reading an e-book is possible, though I'd rather read a regular paper book or perhaps something like the Kindle.

I think it's things that you'd like to do OnDemand, but are light enough that you don't need a full power Desktop/Laptop to run. Likewise it can just be used anywhere; family room, kitchen, bathroom, the train, etc.

I use those features a fair amount on my iPhone when sitting around the house or when in transit (not driving), and can see the advantage of using a larger screen. However I wouldn't even buy one even if I didn't already own an iPhone, and would instead get one of the following alternatives.

Alternatives
  • Cheap Laptop - More versatile. But no touch screen (not a big loss).
  • Kindle - Better battery life, free Sprint data plan. But no color, and basic/nonexistant web browsing.
  • iPod Touch - Cheaper. But smaller screen and can only use WiFi

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Re: Morning Mobilization
Feb 1, 2010, 20:49
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Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 1, 2010, 20:49
Feb 1, 2010, 20:49
 
Ray Marden wrote on Feb 1, 2010, 17:51:
Not quite sure what its niche is

People who hang out to throw money at company who specialize in stamping a picture of an apple on existing things...surprisingly lucrative...I still have people explaining to me how "Mac is better for graphics," though I can never been able to obtain the logic required to arrive at said iKingdom.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
Feb 1, 2010, 18:32
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Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 1, 2010, 18:32
Feb 1, 2010, 18:32
 
Not quite sure what its niche is,

id say 98% of apple users are RETARDED when it comes to the technical aspects of computers

they will buy it because its "pretty" and its "hip" and "cool"

i been an apple certified tech for about a year now, i gotta deal with these fools on a daily basis

apple is turning into a purely status brand, their technology is not really a cut above anything and many times its a cut UNDER

for example.. the latest iMac 27" core i7 with the included ATI 4850 has a 300 watt psu!! thats no shit man, ive opened plenty of them myself. and they wonder why that model is having so many gfx issues and repairs
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Re: Morning Mobilization
Feb 1, 2010, 17:51
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Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 1, 2010, 17:51
Feb 1, 2010, 17:51
 
I think the idea is neat, but...not until it's at least twice as powerful, half the cost, supports a higher resolution, has the connectivity of a standard laptop, etc.

For the cost, I can build a very nice gaming system. For work purposes, it is very limited and I would be better off with a laptop. For media purposes, I have many other faster, more robust, larger, sharper, and better sounding options. Looking at portability, this won't hold up very well in a lot of situations (being dropped, going on a run, at various worksites, etc.)
And it isn't like you can just upgrade bits and pieces like a normal PC.
Sure, I'll buy this the day I can put my gaming PC into something the size of my 24" LCD, but I can definitely hold off for now.

Not quite sure what its niche is,
Ray
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Re: Morning Mobilization
Feb 1, 2010, 17:00
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I had a conversation with a customer at work at the iPad. He already owns a iMac and he sees this as a awesome new item.

My biggest gripe is the lack of flash support... that in itself could be the winner for apple if included. People like youtube, those crazy flash games, or even those retarded e-cards.

It reminds me of the early days where you would only find Java on phones (ohh wait). They want to control the platform which is fine, but they need to know when choices are relevant to the user.

Honestly... my cheapy smartphone from Nokia Supports flash ffs.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
Feb 1, 2010, 15:01
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kanniballl wrote on Feb 1, 2010, 14:31:
dryden555 wrote on Feb 1, 2010, 14:09:
Apple's tablet will go the way of Apple TV.
I don't see the appeal of the iPad; it's a portable net appliance with less freedom than a laptop.

Fine, I understand not wanting an iPhone. The $70+ / month plan is a bit high and you might not like AT&T.

Then get yourself an iPod Touch instead; it fits in your pocket, does everything the iPhone can do, most of what the iPad will supposedly do, and is cheaper.

Personally, I think if you need an iPad over an iPhone/iPod, then you're probably better off with a small laptop. And then you can actually install regular Software instead of being forced to only use iTunes AppStore applications.

Get a small low-power laptop and leave it around your family room, it'll be the same as an iPad except it won't have the touch screen. It'll give you TV Listings, News, Wikipedia, email, games, etc.

Yep, exactly. Apple didn't even include a USB port which tells everyone just what they think of interoperability. You want stuff on your iPad? You'll need to buy it from the store. The store that only Apple has approval process over. They will actively patch out any holes that allow homebrew to boot.

I can understand the appeal of an iPhone but this thing is too big for it's own benefit and too locked down to be an enthusiast device. I hope it's DoA.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
Feb 1, 2010, 14:38
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if people are willing to wait about 4 or 5 months, there will be plenty of tablets that do all these things, run a real OS, full web, camera, etc.

its just not going to be an apple tablet
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Re: Morning Mobilization
Feb 1, 2010, 14:31
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Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 1, 2010, 14:31
Feb 1, 2010, 14:31
 
dryden555 wrote on Feb 1, 2010, 14:09:
Apple's tablet will go the way of Apple TV.
I don't see the appeal of the iPad; it's a portable net appliance with less freedom than a laptop.

Fine, I understand not wanting an iPhone. The $70+ / month plan is a bit high and you might not like AT&T.

Then get yourself an iPod Touch instead; it fits in your pocket, does everything the iPhone can do, most of what the iPad will supposedly do, and is cheaper.

Personally, I think if you need an iPad over an iPhone/iPod, then you're probably better off with a small laptop. And then you can actually install regular Software instead of being forced to only use iTunes AppStore applications.

Get a small low-power laptop and leave it around your family room, it'll be the same as an iPad except it won't have the touch screen. It'll give you TV Listings, News, Wikipedia, email, games, etc.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
Feb 1, 2010, 14:30
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Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 1, 2010, 14:30
Feb 1, 2010, 14:30
 
People might buy more PSPs but that's never been a problem for Sony. The PSP has sold what, 20 million units in it's lifetime? The problem is getting people to buy PSP stuff when they can easily pirate it. Good luck with that Sony.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
Feb 1, 2010, 14:23
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Re: Morning Mobilization Feb 1, 2010, 14:23
Feb 1, 2010, 14:23
 
Shouldn't that headline read "Sony *REALLY REALLY* hopes the iPad makes people buy PSPs"?

First net loss in 13 years.

Ouch.

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Re: Morning Mobilization
Feb 1, 2010, 14:09
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Apple's tablet will go the way of Apple TV.
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