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DICE on Bad Company 2 Servers

Eurogamer has word from DICE producer Gordon Van Dyke who explains that DICE makes "no profit" from the rental of Battlefield: Bad Company 2 servers, saying they are not publicly distributing dedicated server software to "protect the game's integrity on PC." While saying, "This does not earn DICE a profit," he leaves open the door to future policy changes by adding: "But we will see where the game goes and support it post launch."

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50. Re: DICE on Bad Company 2 Servers Jan 17, 2010, 00:07 Jerykk
 
Then you've never done it. It's object level programming. My dev team did just this when we developed code that ported across the PC and the original xbox platforms.

Has your team made any cross-platform games on the current generation of hardware? At the studio where I work, we have three different programmers each handling the networking for one platform. The core networking code is the shared but each platform requires its own lobby, matchmaking, voice chat, invite, party, etc, handling. Most bugs are cross-platform because they stem from assets rather than code. However, there are many platform-specific bugs and this is because there's a lot of platform-specific code. Even without dedicated servers, the PC version requires its own unique code to handle the elements I've mentioned.

Whenever you "add" code that is different for one platform vs the other, it makes fixing that bug on both platforms more difficult because they don't work in the same way.

Refer to above response.

Unless my English is horribly daft, he's saying they sold more copies of the PC version of MW2 in the first week than MW1 sold over it's lifetime.

I don't think your English is daft, I just don't think you've done sufficient research on the subject. In 2007, the NPD reports CoD4 PC as having sold 383k units (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/50939). The NPD reports that CoD6 sold 170k units in November 2009 (http://kotaku.com/5426474/report-modern-warfare-2-pc-us-retail-sales-about-170000-in-november). Therefore, I find it highly unlikely that MW2 outsold MW1's total sales within just a week.

I said that people should stop complaining and do something about it.

Two problems here:

1) Half of your sentence tells people to stop complaining.
2) You assume that complaining and taking action are mutually exclusive.

I'm pretty sure I said friends that was based on peopleI hang out with regularly. That means either people I hang with locally here in the SF Bay area, or people I've known online for well over 5-10 years (most of which I've met on several occasions in person).

Okay. Are all your friends hardcore PC gamers? Do they play consoles as well? In any case, it's anecdotal evidence, as I doubt your friends are representative of every PC gamer who complained about MW2.

I can pretty much see that this is going to degrade into you telling me that I told everyone to STFU, when I did not.

Sigh. You told people to stop complaining and vote with their wallets. That statement requires that they do one or the other, since you think they are mutually exclusive. Therefore, you did tell people to stop complaining.

I *did* say that before crapping all over someone's work one should consider that the reason that it was done may not be evil or malicious, but maybe, just maybe, they were trying to do something good for their game.

Good for their game or good for business? I don't really see how stifling the mod community and taking control away from players is good for the game or for the community.
 
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