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Ars Technica - When religion and games intersect-and how it often goes badly.
In fact, religion seems to be such a taboo subject to include in video games that the only type of faith that really appears in titles here in the US is Christianity. Even then, the subject is often poorly addressed in games that are themselves poorly made. But why is it that religious content is so sparse in the realm of video games? The reasons are largely based on contention between religious and industry leaders, as well as the fact that you'll rarely find a topic as personal as faith.

Gamasutra - The Evolution Of The Class System In Games. Thanks Joker961.
This concept of min/maxing was something that grew out of the character design method of D&D. Depending on the character a player wanted, they could throw all of their weakness onto an irrelevant stat and turn themselves into a monster. TF2 characters are premade with this design in mind, so there’s less room for play customization, but less worry about game balance.

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213. Re: Darwinism is dead Feb 11, 2010, 09:35 Wowbagger_TIP
 
I see you still have not presented a scientific theory to explain the evidence yet. But since you can't grasp something as simple as a blind study, I guess that I shouldn't expect you to understand anything even remotely scientific.

there's no claim made by any evolutionary theory that says we should be able to observe it.

Which is why "evolutionary theory" -- vertical speciation by only random, natural processes, specifically -- is not science, but science fiction.
So evolution is false because it doesn't make the claims you think it should make? Wow. Science is about evidence, and you continually demand that we should only be able to consider one type of evidence. It's like saying that we can't determine what created a crater because nobody actually saw it being created. Utterly ridiculous.

Observable fact is the foundation of Science, which means your argument's gone from Arguing from Invisibility to "Nonsense is better than Nothing" to "We shouldn't be able to observe what we claim is happening."
No, we shouldn't be able to observe evidence in the way you say we should because that's not how it works, and no theory claims it works that way. Nothing of a different "kind" just springs up from an existing "kind". Everything is always directly related to what it was born from. Only through the various conditions described in the pages I've linked to are populations able to change sufficiently over a very large number of generations that they don't much resemble those organisms that they descended from. They'll still share certain basic characteristics, but they'll also have many other different ones. At no point did anything just suddenly become a different "kind" though, and every generation looked pretty much like the previous generation. That's kind of why it takes A Really Long Time to see the kind of difference between a species and its ancestors that you claim is not possible.

You've never explained why this should not be possible or why the fossil record shows exactly this. You try to wave away the evidence by not understanding the methods used or how those methods were verified. You try to say it's all just guesswork. You can't back either of these claims up though. You have no theory that fits the evidence better. You have no leg to stand on.

The honest reader can see that what you're hoping constitutes inferential evidence of vertical speciation by only random, natural processes is actually evidence of descent in cases of observed parent-offspring relationships and is -- by its own admission -- useless regarding early vertical speciation.
No, but a reader who is completely ignorant about the science and incapable of understanding how scientific methodologies are verified even after reading it in plain English could certainly believe that.

Regardless of whether or not I understand Science or can read (I do and I can, as demonstrated by my repeated eviscerations of your "evidences"), the fact that what you claim has been occurring since the first accidental, miraculous cell(s) arose has never been observed, that all the evidence you have for it is, "Just because we can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't happening!" shows the empirical and intellectual bankruptcy of your position. This is why you're perseverating on the subject of the excerpt in question, rather than on what it admits (unintentionally) regarding its applicability to vertspec.
LOL! Eviscerations, huh? Really, no. Just like the pigeon I referenced many posts back, you just want to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and then fly off to declare victory. The fact that you still don't understand what you're reading is made painfully obvious by your vague claims that the methodologies described "have to do with observable" yadda yadda... You don't even understand what's being described there and what the relationship to observable descent is in the experiments they are talking about.

You're hoping just that no one's going to read it for themselves.
Right. I post countless links, often repeatedly, to text and videos because I hope nobody reads it themselves? I want EVERYBODY to read it themselves! PLEASE! The fact that you can't bring yourself to watch even a couple of videos because they so offend your delicate sensibilities and threaten your worldview is telling. So I resort to links to text, which you then proceed to select words and phrases from randomly and declare that the text says something completely different from what it says. Hopefully there are actually honest readers out there, but you certainly aren't among them.

And here is the clincher, the coup de grace, the knock-out punch, the straw that broke the camel's back, the last nail in Darwin's coffin:

A scientific theory is one that generates predictions that can be verified or falsified. Yet you insist on promoting vertical speciation by only random, natural processes, something which you admit no one has observed, and no one can observe, ever.

How can you verify or falsify what you can never observe?
I've explained several ways to falsify it, and the text I linked to lists many more. I think you knocked yourself out there.

You just killed Darwinism.
You should probably stay down. Throw in the towel.


And you want to mock Moses? At least his account of Origins matches the empirical data we actually possess.
Hahaha_no

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  287. Mar 6, 03:06        Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  288. Mar 6, 04:31 Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  289. Mar 8, 10:54  Re: Op Ed Wowbagger_TIP
  290. Mar 11, 21:07   Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  291. Mar 12, 12:01    Re: Op Ed Wowbagger_TIP
  292. Mar 15, 19:31     Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  293. Mar 15, 22:49      Re: Op Ed Wowbagger_TIP
  294. Apr 20, 02:17       Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  295. Apr 27, 13:03        Re: Op Ed Wowbagger_TIP
  297. Apr 28, 02:19         Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  298. Apr 28, 14:02          Re: Op Ed Wowbagger_TIP
  299. Apr 28, 14:08           Re: Op Ed Sepharo
  300. Apr 28, 16:57            Re: Op Ed Wowbagger_TIP
  301. May 1, 23:54            Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  302. May 2, 01:28             Re: Op Ed Wowbagger_TIP
  305. May 4, 22:32              Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  306. May 4, 23:42               Re: Op Ed Wowbagger_TIP
  308. May 5, 01:09                Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  303. May 2, 17:56             Re: Op Ed Sepharo
  304. May 2, 19:46              Re: Op Ed Wowbagger_TIP
  307. May 4, 23:48              Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  296. Apr 28, 00:10 Re: Op Ed Sepharo
  309. May 5, 01:33 Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  310. May 5, 01:43  Re: Op Ed Wowbagger_TIP
  311. May 5, 01:46   Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  314. May 5, 02:58   Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  318. May 12, 05:18   Wowbagger: The gift that keeps on giving Amillennialist
  320. May 12, 13:36    Re: Wowbagger: The gift that keeps on giving Wowbagger_TIP
  321. May 17, 00:08     Re: Wowbagger: The gift that keeps on giving Amillennialist
  322. May 17, 09:32      Re: Wowbagger: The gift that keeps on giving Wowbagger_TIP
  323. May 18, 00:54       Re: Wowbagger: The gift that keeps on giving Amillennialist
  324. May 18, 01:35       Re: Wowbagger: The gift that keeps on giving Amillennialist
  325. May 18, 12:04        Re: Wowbagger: The gift that keeps on giving Wowbagger_TIP
  326. May 20, 03:34         Loose ends Amillennialist
  327. May 20, 18:33          Re: Loose ends Wowbagger_TIP
  328. May 20, 19:09           Re: Loose ends  Blue 
  331. Jul 9, 01:46            Re: Loose ends The Opera Ghost
  332. Jul 9, 07:32             Re: Loose ends Beamer
  333. Jul 9, 08:28             Re: Loose ends nin
  335. Jul 9, 09:50             Re: Loose ends  Blue 
  312. May 5, 02:20 Re: Op Ed Sepharo
  313. May 5, 02:52  Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  317. May 5, 21:19   Re: Op Ed Sepharo
  319. May 12, 05:45    Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  315. May 5, 03:14 Re: Op Ed Amillennialist
  316. May 5, 09:30  Re: Op Ed Wowbagger_TIP
  329. May 20, 19:58 Re: Op Ed Sepharo
  330. May 20, 23:10  Re: Op Ed Wowbagger_TIP
  334. Jul 9, 09:45 Re: Op Ed Sepharo


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