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EA on "Pirates As A Marketplace"

"I Think Of Pirates As A Marketplace" is the grabber headline of an interview with John Riccitiello on Kotaku, where the EA CEO discusses the growing trend of using DLC as a fulcrum to prevent piracy and curtail used-game sales. He says "They can steal the disc, but they can't steal the DLC," though a later update acknowledges that piracy of DLC is not actually unheard of. "I don't think anybody should pirate anything," Riccitiello clarifies. "I believe in the artistry of the people who build [the games industry.] I profoundly believe that. And when you steal from us, you steal from them. Having said that, there's a lot of people who do."

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93. Re: EA on Dec 10, 2009, 16:07 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Going back to the social contract, what we have in place is very simple: someone makes and prices a product. Consumer decides to pay price and obtain the product. If not, the only ethical choices are to negotiate the price or abstain. That is the only equitable solution for both parties. But you seem to think the other party doesn't matter and you get to invent your own rules. Again, you can do that, but it's unethical.
They're already violating the social contract by refusing to allow me to return a product that doesn't work as advertised. So I don't really see a problem with violating the contract myself to ensure that the product is actually what they claim it is.

This also doesn't seem particularly fair to those who fork over the $60 upfront cost versus those who download it for free. Those who pay are supporting (financially) those who don't.
As someone pointed out earlier in the thread, "Business isn't fair, it never has been and never will be."

If you were ethical, you'd simply wait then buy and enjoy the game after it has hit a price you can live with. The fact that you want to enjoy the game but pick your own arbitrary price is a just a rationalization for unethical behavior on your part.
I'm going to pay a price I can live with, regardless of how long I have to wait. If there's no pirated version available, I just wait however many weeks or months it takes for one to show up. Some games have taken a while. What I'm not going to do is pay a price without knowing what I'm going to get for that price. Since there's no recourse for me once I have paid for the game, I have a choice between trying it out first or buying it and hoping for the best. I'm going to take the route that is more fair to me.

For what it's worth I'd agree that often corporations are "greedy" in the sense that they focus on short term profits at the expense of a stronger long term view (which tends to benefit both companies and customers, in the long term).
Put yourself in the shoes of a CEO. He can make sound decisions for the long-term benefit of the company that happen make quarterly profits suffer for a while, but ultimately lead to a much more profitable company. That would probably result in him getting the boot pretty quickly as shareholders freak out at stagnant or dropping stock prices. End result, CEO takes his golden parachute and bails out.

Or, the CEO can make insane decisions that inflate stock prices quarter after quarter for as long as he can maintain the charade, reap huge bonuses year after year until it all comes tumbling down, at which point he takes his golden parachute and bails out and faces no real consequences for his decisions.

Which one is more profitable for the CEO?

That's why our economic system is so fucked.

This comment was edited on Dec 10, 2009, 16:12.
 
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