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No MW2 Dedicated Server

There will be no dedicated server for Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, reports a new BASH webcast on BASHandSlash.com, where they converse with Infinity Ward community manager Rob Bowling about their concerns that PC platform is being marginalized for MW2 (thanks Steve). They learn the PC edition is still not delayed, and will include Steam support, but their concerns are only heightened by learning that there are no plans for a dedicated server for the game, as matchmaking on the PC will entirely go through IW.net. Robert did not have answers to questions about how this will impact custom map-making and modification efforts. The Infinity Ward Forums have a petition asking for dedicated server support and there's another Dedicated Servers for CoD-MW2 Petition on petitionsonline.com that currently boasts over 15,000 signatures.

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147. Re: No MW2 Dedicated Server Oct 20, 2009, 00:58 Jerykk
 
Halo 1...has already been pointed out it wasn't regening health, but regening armor. Again, a shitty game anyways.

Semantics. Regenerating armor has the same downsides as regenerating health. You can hide behind cover and completely regenerate within a few seconds as if you were never hit. Do agree with the game being shit though.

Halo 2, nope havent played. Didn't see the point since Halo 1 sucked with the same copy and paste levels over and over. The games faults again had nothing to do with regening health.

Regenerating health was one of the game's many faults. Like I said before, being able to hide for a few seconds and completely regenerate your health completely negates any intensity a game might have unless the game resorts to cheap ways of making the game harder.

Call of Juarez Bound in Blood. Not a bad game, but merely mediocre, and I don't recall being run and hide, so much as just taking cover, much lessing needing to, but the game was not all that memorable seeing as it took all of about 5 hours to play through.

You must not have played on the highest difficulty setting. Since the AI has 100% accuracy to compensate for the regenerating health, you spend the vast majority of your time hiding behind cover waiting for your health to regenerate.

Call of Duty games...all are great games, although very scripted, they are extremely fun and have fast and furious gameplay.

And they would be better with health kits like in the first game.

Basically ALL games have cheating AI...and certainly all the older games that use medkits, certainly cheat due to their AI limitations.

Games with regenerating health are more likely to resort to cheating AI or cheapness in general in order to compensate for the inherent cheapness of regenerating health. CoD4 did this by having endlessly respawning enemies with pinpoint grenade accuracy. CoJ:BiB did this by having enemies with 100% accuracy. R6: Vegas did this by having heavily scripted encounters where you'd hit a trigger and swarms of terrorists would flow out of closets. All contrived ways to increase challenge.

Most people don't like games that punish you unmercifully.

That's fine. Different strokes for different folks. Doesn't change the fact that finite health forces you to play better.

I'd be more interested to hear what games you hold in such high regard that use medkits with finite health, as you seem to have avoided giving examples, aside from FEAR 2, which most people would not call a good game.

1) System Shock 2.
2) Deus Ex.
3) STALKER
4) No One Lives Forever 1/2
5) Quake
6) UT
7) Tribes
8) Far Cry
9) HL1&2
10) Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay
11) Pretty much all the best shooters ever made.


If you played any of the Call of Duty games and claimed you rarely died and were able to hide and regen most of the time, I'd say you are lying or played it on Easy.

Like I said before, I beat CoD4 on Veteran. Like I also said before, CoD4 was challenging because of cheap, unbalanced design choices. Mainly respawning enemies who throw grenades with pinpoint accuracy. Sure, the game was challenging because of these things. It would have been even more challenging with finite health.

You also ignore & fail to acknowledge what I've said twice now, that it works for some games and not others, based entirely on the design of the game.

I don't see the point in acknowledging what I disagree with. I can't think of any games I've played where I thought "Wow, this regenerating health sure does the make the game more intense and challenging!"
 
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