Modern Warfare 2 PC Delay?

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Electronic Theatre has an updated Activision Blizzard Release Schedule that indicates the PC edition of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 will be delayed for the PC platform. November 10 is still listed as the release date for the console editions, but the Windows edition of the military combat sequel has been pushed back two weeks according to this schedule, which lists PC Modern Warfare 2 for a November 24 release. Thanks Preston.

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Re: MW2 PC Delay?

Oct 9, 2009, 09:07

Verno

I'm not saying that all comparisons are inherently flawed.

Why not? It's true. All comparisons are flawed, that doesn't make them invalid or unusable though.

Just the comparisons used to justify excessive copy-protection.

Now who's the one pursuing an agenda?




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Re: MW2 PC Delay?

Oct 9, 2009, 01:45

Jerykk

You saying it's impossible isn't going to stop the industry or consumer from making them. Of course not. People will make whatever assumptions are most convenient to their agenda. That's where all these inherently flawed piracy "statistics" come from. I'm not saying that all comparisons are inherently flawed. Just the comparisons used to justify excessive copy-protection.

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Re: MW2 PC Delay?

Oct 8, 2009, 08:44

Verno

It's impossible to find any game where all these variables match except for the level of DRM and as such, no reasonable comparisons can be made.

Not really, people will make reasonable assumptions and account for margins of error. You saying it's impossible isn't going to stop the industry or consumer from making them. It's necessary, they need to know what resonates with the consumer and what does not. They need to understand what sells the most units because at the end of the day everyone wants to sell a lot of copies of their game.

Whether it's fair or not is a different question altogether and really doesn't matter for the purposes of this discussion. If you think everyone in the industry with games coming out this christmas isn't going to be comparing themselves to Modern Warfare 2, you're mistaken. Yes it's a juggernaut and the comparison isn't fair but it will be made nonetheless.




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Re: MW2 PC Delay?

Oct 8, 2009, 04:02

Jerykk

You can't compare Deus Ex and Call of Duty but that doesn't mean you couldn't compare Call of Duty and pick a popular FPS that has a similar level of DRM here. How many popular shooters have had effective copy-protection? Bioshock? Mass Effect? Neither of which came remotely close to matching the sales of CoD4. Crysis sold a million and half units with a basic CD-check. Oblivion and Fallout 3 sold millions with basic CD-checks. I don't think it's possible to make any valid comparisons in this case. How do you even judge popularity? Sales? What would you compare Bioshock and Mass Effect's sales to? How about Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, which took almost a year to crack? Would you compare that to Thief? MGS? Velvet Assassin? Saying that copy-protection is effective because one game with DRM sold better than one without it is inherently flawed because they are different games that would have sold different amounts regardless of DRM. If you go by broader statistics, the best-selling games are the ones without "effective" DRM (i.e. online activations, install limits, etc). There are countless variables that go into a game's success and pretty much all of these have proven more important than DRM. PC-exclusive vs console port, delayed release vs simultaneous release, tons of marketing vs minimal marketing, big budget vs low budget, Christmas release vs summer release, no competition vs lots of competition... the list goes on and on. It's impossible to find any game where all these variables match except for the level of DRM and as such, no reasonable comparisons can be made. This comment was edited on Oct 8, 2009, 04:28.

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Re: MW2 PC Delay?

Oct 7, 2009, 15:30

Verno

You can't take the piracy rates or sales for two completely different games and then assume that copy-protection is the sole distinction between them.

So your point is that apples and oranges can't be compared so no one should make any reasonable comparisons too? You can't compare Deus Ex and Call of Duty but that doesn't mean you couldn't compare Call of Duty and *pick a popular FPS that has a similar level of DRM here*. All comparisons are not invalid just because a single one is. Make more reasonable comparisons should be your point, not a blanket statement that comparisons cannot work period.




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Re: MW2 PC Delay?

Oct 7, 2009, 12:32

Jerykk

Guess which one was a massive franchise and makes the whole comparison invalid? If you're going to claim the statistics can't be useful then at least compare two titles of relatively equal value and merit. DING DING DING Congratulations, you realize my point. No two games are exactly the same. You can't take the piracy rates or sales for two completely different games and then assume that copy-protection is the sole distinction between them. It's ridiculous. Sure, I can name some games with slightly effective copy-protection that sold better than games with less effective copy-protection. Conversely, I can name a whole lot of games with completely ineffective copy-protection that sold significantly better than games with very effective copy-protection. Long story short: Any statistics that compare the piracy and sales of two different games and assume that copy-protection is the distinguishing factor are totally bunk.

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Re: MW2 PC Delay?

Oct 7, 2009, 09:00

Verno

Guess which one was a massive franchise and makes the whole comparison invalid? If you're going to claim the statistics can't be useful then at least compare two titles of relatively equal value and merit. Chronicles of Riddick is never going to sell as well as CALL OF DUTY for painfully obvious reasons.