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The Stardock
Interview Part 2 on Shacknews continues their conversation with Stardock
boss Brad Wardell. Topics include the dumbing down of strategy games, how
publishers lie about sales numbers, competing with digital retailers,
and Microsoft's lack of leadership on the PC as a gaming platform. On the
heels of an article on
Joystiq about opening Games for Windows to indie developers, Brad offers a
revelatory quote about the nightmare of working with the Games for Windows LIVE
platform: I don't know. I started out as a big Games for Windows Live
advocate. I intended for Elemental to be on Games for Windows Live, but then as
we got closer, the Xbox group took it over more and more. And they have things
where, oh, if you want to use Games for Windows Live to update your game, you
have to go through [their] certification. And if you do it more than X number of
times, you have to pay money. It's like, "My friends, you can't do that on the
PC."
On the console, I don't have to update my game because an anti-virus program got
an update and is now identifying my VB scripts as viruses and I have to apply an
emergency patch. That would just add insult to injury. We've had to upgrade our
games plenty of times over the years, not because we found some bug, but because
some third-party program, or driver, or whatever screwed it up. If Games for
Windows Live maintains that strategy and they take over, I'm done. I'm not
making PC games. I would be done.
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but then as we got closer, the Xbox group took it over more and more. And they have things where, oh, if you want to use Games for Windows Live to update your game, you have to go through [their] certification. And if you do it more than X number of times, you have to pay money. It's like, "My friends, you can't do that on the PC." Not to be a member of the tin foil hat brigade, but I think that's what MS wants. Ultimately, their goal is for every PC Gamer to break down and buy an Xbox. Combine this little tidbit here that Wardell revealed with the fact that they do their best to get timed exclusives and "favoring" during the porting process and you can see how little they care for the PC platform. Frankly, I'm shocked we even got Mass Effect 1 at all.
The European game designers seem to be immune to this, for the most part. Lots of great, original games coming out for the PC from them. You have Call of Pripyat, Ego Draconis, and Risen all coming out before the end of the year and they're the only PC-first (Or in Pripyat's case, the PC only) games I'm buying. |
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Oct 1, 11:18 |
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Oct 1, 11:28 |
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Oct 1, 11:28 |
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Oct 1, 11:40 |
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Oct 1, 11:43 |
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Oct 1, 11:39 |
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Oct 1, 11:55 |
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Oct 1, 13:58 |
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Oct 1, 12:04 |
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Oct 1, 12:08 |
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Oct 1, 12:11 |
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Oct 1, 12:12 |
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Oct 1, 13:02 |
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Oct 1, 14:19 |
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Oct 1, 14:54 |
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Verno |
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Oct 1, 15:02 |
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Oct 1, 15:04 |
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Theo |
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Oct 1, 15:03 |
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Oct 1, 15:11 |
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Kxmode |
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Oct 1, 15:39 |
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Oct 1, 15:57 |
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Verno |
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Oct 1, 16:46 |
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Oct 1, 17:57 |
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Oct 1, 22:20 |
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Oct 1, 22:31 |
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Oct 2, 11:25 |
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Verno |
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Oct 2, 12:09 |
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Oct 2, 14:10 |
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Oct 2, 12:30 |
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Verno |
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Oct 2, 14:38 |
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Verno |
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Oct 2, 14:59 |
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Oct 2, 15:04 |
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Verno |
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Oct 5, 12:25 |
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Oct 7, 09:31 |
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