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German Wolfenstein PC Recall

A post on PC Games that can be roughly translated here says Wolfenstein is being recalled from German shelves due to the inclusion of some swastika images, which are verboten in Germany. A statement from Activision is expected in the coming days. There's also a report on this on Planet Wolfenstein, where they point out the fact that the Wolfenstein teams from Endrant and Raven have both been laid off may complicate creating an edited version.

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26. Re: Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 23, 2009, 14:49 coldcut
 
If you want to see the whole glory (haha) of the cut German version, check this site.
The link points directly to the forgotten swastika the game has been recalled for, see the red arrow on that poster on the wall. Enjoy

[German site, of course, but the pictures speak for themselves]

http://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=5982811#h2

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25. Re: Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 23, 2009, 01:53 Jerykk
 
A lot of people, perhaps even most people, are mainly interested in the singleplayer, and Wolf's singleplayer was quite good.

Agreed. I was pleasantly surprised by it. I had very little interest in the game based on the previews, marketing, reviews and word of mouth. For all intents and purposes, it seemed like a generic, mediocre WW2 console shooter. Then I played it. It's not revolutionary by any means but the single-player component is well-done and enjoyable. I like the weapon upgrades and the town hub mechanic. I also like the supernatural enemies. +1 to the list of games I've only bought because of [insert highly controversial word that rhymes with 'iracy' here].
 
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24. Re: German Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 20:00 space captain
 
swastikas are evil but fasces are OK because it's a symbol of power, not hippy bullshit

yes, hitler - the ultimate hippie

mellow out or you will pay!

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23. Re: Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 19:52 Sepharo
 
The original Wolfenstein ...

This is actually the first "Wolfenstein".

/semantics
 
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22. Re: Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 18:11 NKD
 
Why does the German government have to be such Nazis about this issue?  
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21. Re: Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 18:06 Prez
 
The original Wolfenstein was a SP game, so to me, the MP is a non-issue.  
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20. Re: Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 17:02 StingingVelvet
 
Single player is balls out awesome but most people were hoping for a good multiplayer experience. Instead we got something.. less..

I've gathered as much... still, calling the game bad overall because of bad multiplayer is quite a bit misleding. A lot of people, perhaps even most people, are mainly interested in the singleplayer, and Wolf's singleplayer was quite good.
 
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19. Re: Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 16:57 Sphinx
 
Single player is balls out awesome but most people were hoping for a good multiplayer experience. Instead we got something.. less..  
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18. Re: German Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 16:33 dubfanatic
 
its only questionable because hitler used it to identify his movement. the swastika is much older than nazis, its older than germany itself - its been used in asia for thousands of years

swastikas are evil but fasces are OK because it's a symbol of power, not hippy bullshit
 
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17. Re: Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 16:32 Prez
 
I've heard mostly very positive stuff about the single player campaign.  
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16. Re: Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 16:24 StingingVelvet
 
rofl! they should recall the game because it sucks, not because of a few swastika images.

I quite enjoyed it.
 
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15. Re: German Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 16:16 PHJF
 
Well, you see, there's this special German police force who mobilizes to hunt down and silence anyone who mentions swastikas. I think they're called Gestapo or something...  
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14. Re: German Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 16:10 everyone
 
So if swastikas are banned in germany how do they know what they look like?
 
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13. Re: German Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 15:21 The PC Warrior
 
Denying and ignoring your heritage is definitely a great way to learn from it. Rolleyes Germany Rolleyes

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12. Re: German Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 15:15 space captain
 
its only questionable because hitler used it to identify his movement. the swastika is much older than nazis, its older than germany itself - its been used in asia for thousands of years  
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11. Re: Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 13:43 coldcut
 
You can't really say Activision is so stupid in general, they removed most of the swastikas, but apparently they forgot ONE somewhere in the game, which is the reason the game is banned now.

According to German news sites which quote Activison Germany to the incident, it must be a rather inconspicious occurence of a questionable symbol, and even just for a very short moment in the game.

Activision Germany immediately stopped the game from being sold after finding out. As I am from Germany, this is another really sad incident... again...
 
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10. Re: German Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 13:40 nullability
 
Ooh, someone screwed up. I guess it's hard to make a game that takes place in Nazi Germany without some swastikas slipping through. I wonder if Activision will be fined, and how much?  
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9. Re: German Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 13:37 Hump
 

The reason the swastika symbol is illegal is itself a symbolic gesture. This decision was made right after WWII and it served as a demonstration that germany wanted to distance itself from the brutal genocide that was committed under Hitler.

and laws that lock people up if they deny or even debate the numbers involved in the holocaust? Much of that zeal to "distance itself" from the horrors of WW2 comes from outside Germany via groups like the JDL.

The sentiment behind such laws is understandable, but, it ends doing more harm than good by discouraging debate/discussion and also leads to what we are seeing here, censorship. In no way are Nazi's depicted in anything other than a negative light in Wolfenstein which makes the swastika flag issue nonsensical.
 
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8. Re: Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 13:35 Creston
 
Sie werden nicht beleidigen Deutschland.

That should be "Sie werden Deutschland nicht beleidigen"

Also, how freaking stupid is Activision to release a game with Swastikas in germany? They know it's illegal, yet they do so anyways. Good job publishing there, Activision.

As for the censorship issue, eh, let's just say that Germany isn't exactly thrilled about their Nazi past, and would rather let it die in the fiery pits of hell. I can see their side of the argument.

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7. Re: Wolfenstein PC Recall Sep 22, 2009, 13:21 Hazard
 
But is censorship, in essence just ignoring and hoping the world will forget, really the answer?

It is not about trying to forget. German children learn more about WWII than about any other subject. During my school years we had eight (yes, eight) units about the nazis and WWII in the context of different school subjects.

The reason the swastika symbol is illegal is itself a symbolic gesture. This decision was made right after WWII and it served as a demonstration that germany wanted to distance itself from the brutal genocide that was committed under Hitler.

It is a bit silly to prevent the usage in a WWII game. I agree with that. Especially because you can get permission to use it in other types of art like movies. But that is bureaucracy...

 
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