All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D2D

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Lucasartsgames tweets a clarification of the news that the Jedi Knight series of Star Wars first-person shooters (and slicers) is coming to Steam with a confirmation that this will include the entire series, saying simply: "What games from the Jedi Knight series? All of em!" In another Tweet they also indicate the series will be also coming to Direct2Drive when it is released next Wednesday.

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 18, 2009, 17:18

swaaye

I've been watching the comments over on the Steam forums. Well folks, as predicted, the JK and MotS releases are castrated buggy messes. The music is gone of course cuz it was CD audio and changing that would take significant effort. There are no bug fixes, including no fixes for the problems with the 3D hardware support. There are problems with resolution changing. And some people are having problems with CD checks! I think LEC used nocd cracks to make the games run w/o CDs. Apparently LEC may have lost the source code for these games. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=714 http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=716 This comment was edited on Sep 18, 2009, 17:32.

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 16, 2009, 16:13

nin

It's available now - $20 for all the Jedi Knight games. I was thinking it would be more.

Also the Lucasarts Adventure pack, with both Indy games, Loom and The Dig for $9.99!!!

Hot damn!




RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure. Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling...

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 16, 2009, 15:43

Ecthelion

It's available now - $20 for all the Jedi Knight games. I was thinking it would be more.

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 15, 2009, 09:57

Ecthelion

There's also this mod for the original game engine: JK Enhanced http://www.jkhub.net/project/show.php?projid=242 Thanks for the link... that looks awesome compared to the original game. I couldn't figure out from the website whether it works with MotS or just JK though.

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 14, 2009, 22:29

swaaye

The thing with DF2: JK and other games of that time is that 3D was so incredibly limited. Super low-poly models, horrid animation and crappy textures. It may have been the best way to do FPS action but compared to 2D games, the visual quality is just shit. It still doesn't bother me that much tho. I like "immersing" myself in the various eras of gaming tech. (Well, I do hate most PS1 games....can't tell wtf I'm looking at sometimes with those huge, skewed pixels and perspective probs) There's also this mod for the original game engine: JK Enhanced http://www.jkhub.net/project/show.php?projid=242 IMO that JK -> JA mod doesn't look that much better than the original game because they are just reusing the old textures anyway. This comment was edited on Sep 14, 2009, 22:35.

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 13, 2009, 22:24

Prez

Oh yeah! That's what I'm talkin' 'bout! Thumbsup




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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 13, 2009, 21:55

D-Rock

I was able to find this tonight. With any luck, perhaps our prayers have been answered: http://shamusworld.gotdns.org/df2mod/index.html

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 13, 2009, 20:26

Prez

I hear what you guys are saying. Trust me, I'm not a graphics whore or anything, but I have this condition where dated graphics, if bad enough, actually detract from my enjoyment of an old title.

Some engines and artwork hold up better than others; DF2 didn't age all that well and that precludes me from wanting to play it again, as awesome as the gameplay was. I, like others here, am hoping for a graphical update at some point to make it a little less hard on the eyes is all.




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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 13, 2009, 19:42

swaaye

JK is Quake 1 / Hexen 2 quality. But the gameplay itself blows those away completely for singleplayer gaming. You don't see levels as huge as those in JK in many other games, certainly not the Quakes. Graphics quality doesn't bother me much honestly. I hate to use the tired "gameplay is more important than graphics" cliche, but that's the deal for me. What was a shame with JK2 was how the "technically marvelous" Quake 3 engine couldn't handle the huge levels of JK1 apparently. Maybe Raven didn't even try though, I dunno. This comment was edited on Sep 13, 2009, 20:06.

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D2D

Sep 13, 2009, 17:52

StingingVelvet

Apologies - I was talking about Dark Forces 2. I wasn't clear. Outcast has held up surprisingly well. (Technically I think Outcast used the quake 3 engine, but I can't remember). EDIT: Yep, it does. Team arena to be exact. The first game of the Jedi series, Jedi Knight DF2 just hasn't held up well imo - the characters are terribly blocky and the animations are god-awful. It might have looked good at the time, but the graphics for me actually detract from the nostalgia. I knew which you meant. I was thinking it was Quake 2 quality, but you're right, it might look a little worse. Still looks find to me though, can't wait to replay it!

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D2D

Sep 13, 2009, 16:54

Prez

I think you are correct D-Rock. Your memory (or Googling skills

) are better than mine.




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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D2D

Sep 13, 2009, 16:25

D-Rock

The first game of the Jedi series, Jedi Knight DF2 just hasn't held up well imo - the characters are terribly blocky and the animations are god-awful. It might have looked good at the time, but the graphics for me actually detract from the nostalgia. IIRC, Lucasarts reduced detail specifically so they could create huge maps with large outdoor environments, which is one of the characteristics DF2 (JK) is well-known for. If they didn't, there would be a significant performance hit. The characters aren't as blocky, and there is more detail and smoother edges. To me it's just all around easier on the eyes. Moreover, the animations in Q2 were better IIRC. The Quake 2 engine notorious for not being able to render huge outdoor environments without a big performance hit. It did look pretty damn good at the time, however. Both engines were designed with different goals in mind, and both of them achieved those goals. That being said, DF2 on the JA engine would be pretty sweet. There's already a project to create DF on the JA engine underway, but it's taking forever and DF2 is much bigger than DF, so I wouldn't expect too much. This comment was edited on Sep 13, 2009, 16:28.

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D2D

Sep 13, 2009, 14:45

bjack

This is one of my favorite game series ever. I really wish they make another. DF2 JK is so hideous to the point of unplayable now. Great stuff back in the day. I also played the hell out of that multiplayer map Bespin. I'd guess Jedi Outcast is very playable to this day. I tried Jedi Academy again just a couple years ago and it holds up. Both of those are on the Quake 3 engine.

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D2D

Sep 13, 2009, 13:03

Prez

Jedi Knight is about Quake 2 quality, last I checked. Hope I am not in for a rude awakening there.

Apologies - I was talking about Dark Forces 2. I wasn't clear.
Outcast has held up surprisingly well. (Technically I think Outcast used the quake 3 engine, but I can't remember). EDIT: Yep, it does. Team arena to be exact. The first game of the Jedi series, Jedi Knight DF2 just hasn't held up well imo - the characters are terribly blocky and the animations are god-awful. It might have looked good at the time, but the graphics for me actually detract from the nostalgia.

Anyway, here are Jedi Knight DF2 screens:
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/jediknightdarkforces2/images/0/1/?tag=thumbs_below;thumb;1

and here are some QUake 2 shots:
http://www.gamershell.com/pc/quake_2/screenshots.html?id=4083

The characters aren't as blocky, and there is more detail and smoother edges. To me it's just all around easier on the eyes. Moreover, the animations in Q2 were better IIRC. Looking at the comparison again, can I upgrade my request to Quake 3 graphics?

Funny how nostalgia plays with your brain.

This comment was edited on Sep 13, 2009, 13:25.




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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 13, 2009, 08:40

theyarecomingforyou

I seem to recall Jedi Knight being pretty advanced for the time - it was the first time I had to deal with DirectX.




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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D2D

Sep 13, 2009, 08:28

StingingVelvet

Jedi Knight is about Quake 2 quality, last I checked. Hope I am not in for a rude awakening there. Really though, I am more looking forward to the original Dark Forces, for some reason. Republic Commando was good, but I thought Dark Forces nailed Star Wars FPS... at the time, anyway.

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 13, 2009, 07:32

Prez

Really, the only way I could play the original Jedi Knight (and Mysteries of the Sith) is if they were upgraded. I tried replaying Jedi Knight a few years ago, and it looked so much like ass that it was a distraction, and I ended up quitting. Funny to think that the games were considered fairly graphically advanced at the time.

I'm not talking Crysis-like graphics - I'd be happy with Quake 2-level quality.




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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 13, 2009, 04:51

Dmitri_M

I'd like to see Dark Forces and Jedi Knight actually remade with better graphics, balance improvements, etc. Same with Interstate 76, Arcanum, System Shock 2 and a host of other classics. That'd require investment beyond simply making the game compatible with current operating systems and hiring a PR guy to make hyped announcements.

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 13, 2009, 03:27

Jerykk

I'd like to see Dark Forces and Jedi Knight actually remade with better graphics, balance improvements, etc. Same with Interstate 76, Arcanum, System Shock 2 and a host of other classics.

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Re: All Jedi Knight Games to Steam and D

Sep 13, 2009, 03:27

BobBob

Bah, you younglings. Quake 1 and QuakeWorld caused me to buy the original Diamond Monster 3D. Rendition Verité (V1000) graphics chipset. This comment was edited on Sep 13, 2009, 03:27.

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