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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 5, 2009, 10:05 |
Beamer |
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oh yeh, a DVR and a MMORPG are exactly the same.. what was i thinking?
No.
Paying $199 (Tivo was $299, incidentally) for a lifetime subscription to a digital service that may disappear at any time rather than signing on to the alternative $15 a month plan.
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Same.
This is shaky because MMORPGs come and go (although, as others have pointed out, almost all last long enough to recoup that $200, assuming you stay interested long enough.) Tivo was shaky because it was a brand new product and under extremely heavy legal threat and was putting almost all its VC money into attorneys fees. |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 5, 2009, 09:52 |
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it must be your wanton guzzling of Roper's sperm cocktail that causes you to say such things.. as they are very stupid things
If your attempting to be funny or clever, you've achieved neither. The only thing you've achieved is to convince me your thirteen years old.
If you're trying to convince us how intelligent you are, you have failed because your grammar sucks.
BTW, I'm glad your gamble on LotRO worked out for you. I hope Champions Online works out as well for you, but I highly doubt it will. How many generic superhero MMOs can the market support, especially once the name brand superhero MMOs hit?
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 5, 2009, 09:08 |
space captain |
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If your attempting to be funny or clever, you've achieved neither. The only thing you've achieved is to convince me your thirteen years old.
awww, and everything in my life depends on your view of me!! whatever shall i do now? boooooo hoooooo!
what does that convince you of, please tell me, i have to know, its so important to me |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 5, 2009, 08:15 |
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If it were a MMO version of Bridge Commander... I'd be all over it... but it's not
No, you wouldn't...and neither would 95% of the rest of the population, hence why they didn't go that route.
Normal conventions notwithstanding, STO's layout is far more appealing to a far more broad audience and will undoubtedly allow most who play it to jump right in, feel comfortable, and enjoy the game. Alas, as long as STO actually doesn't suck in gameplay terms. |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 5, 2009, 03:27 |
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it must be your wanton guzzling of Roper's sperm cocktail that causes you to say such things.. as they are very stupid things If your attempting to be funny or clever, you've achieved neither. The only thing you've achieved is to convince me your thirteen years old. |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 5, 2009, 01:02 |
space captain |
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See how this is pretty much exactly the same?
oh yeh, a DVR and a MMORPG are exactly the same.. what was i thinking?
carry on |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 22:52 |
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And considering I've been waiting for a Trek MMO for a very long time (I'm a Bridge Commander Whore I admit it), it's just more gravy to what I probably would pay for Champions if they didn't offer a lifetime subscription.
Well, STO ain't Bridge Commander. In fact... you "command" nothing as far as ship combat is concerned... you are outside the ship in 3rd person view and "fight" as if you were controlling an avatar.
Weeee...
let me run fly around and cast spells fire phasers with my medieval mage ship!!! Gotta watch and manage that mana power grid!!! Since armor shields are locational, you have to decide whether to protect your balls Bow or bung Stern!!! You can even be pilot a gnome armed shuttle craft or a troll Galaxy Class Star Ship! It's up to you!!!
let me "morph my avatar from a ship to a biped" and enter a dungeon beam down to a planet and control command my pets or henchmen crew while I kill 10 rats Kilngons and bring back 10 rat tails Klingon Tally-Whackers back to the princess Starbase!!!
It's going to suck. Majorly. 
If it were a MMO version of Bridge Commander... I'd be all over it... but it's not.
This comment was edited on Aug 4, 2009, 23:48. |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 22:48 |
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| That STO Mirror Universe outfit sure makes it tempting... and I don't even care about STO! |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 21:55 |
Beamer |
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you dont see the difference between tivo and a MMORPG that hasnt been released yet? ok then
In the first few months of tivo's existence? No, no I do not. It could have gone under at any time as well, as it was being sued left and right. It's legal troubles came very close to downing it. Yet people still paid. Why? Because they knew that, had the company prevailed and survived, they'd be getting a good deal.
See how this is pretty much exactly the same? |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 20:24 |
Kxmode |
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Buying a lifetime subscription is about as dumb as drinking Kool-Aid... without the sugar.  |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 20:21 |
space captain |
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| it must be your wanton guzzling of Roper's sperm cocktail that causes you to say such things.. as they are very stupid things |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 19:08 |
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your all so good at painting Roper as the Supervillian of the gaming industry.
Exactly. Everyone's great at regurgitating what they read. I doubt any of the detractors, in this thread, even played H:L.
1 person alone does not kill a title. But most of the mouthbreathers here have their blinders on and haven't a clue how a company works, let alone a game developer. Yet they have no qualms thinking they could do a better job, which is completely unrealistic. If half the negative nellies, that post here about Roper and how horrible he is, were running the industry we'd have less what than what we do now. |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 18:15 |
Talisorn |
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How about Roper's own Hellgate: London? Hellgate London was a train wreck waiting to happen. It had about as much depth as Diablo. It certainly was not an MMO. Blind freddy could see that this game was going to fail if anyone treated it like an MMO ... especially attaching a subscription model onto it.
Champions Online on the other hand is not going to be the same. It's got Cryptic behind it who built City of Heroes, which has been going for years now. I can't see it failing, even with Roper as front man; there's too many other good people working on this to fail.
Most of the people commenting on this clearly would love to play Champion's Online ... after all, your all so good at painting Roper as the Supervillian of the gaming industry. This game will succeed despite Roper's involvement.
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 18:06 |
Talisorn |
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Lifetime subscription? Wtf?? Who buys into that shit, I mean seriously... My lifetime sub for LotRO has done me very well. Thanks for asking.  |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 17:36 |
space captain |
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Tivo used to offer a lifetime subscription, too. It was the same deal. I don't see why this is open to any more ridicule.
you dont see the difference between tivo and a MMORPG that hasnt been released yet? ok then |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 16:56 |
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Which is why I'd hope this is a limited time offer. It's time limited, you have until Sep 1. (aka. Launch) to decide whether you want it or not.
Of course, to access the offer you need to preorder, which will automatically get you into the Open Beta (except apparently the Amazon preorder), so you'll have some time to see if it's something for you before you decide. |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 16:29 |
Beamer |
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The 8 additional character slots concern me. We've gotten into such a weird trend of upfront money = better services. Look at all the crap starting to come with console preorders. Kinda creepy.
But the lifetime subscription? Seems fair. It's a bet, in many ways. If the game lasts over a year and a half and you stay interested that long then you've saved money. If it crashes and burns you lost money.
Tivo used to offer a lifetime subscription, too. It was the same deal. I don't see why this is open to any more ridicule. It gives them more upfront capital to work with and lets gamers gamble on its success.
Hellgate's was a joke because:
1) It offered no reason to pay versus what was free. It was all arbitrarily decided. Paying customers weren't given anything real for their money, just given what Flagship chose to hold back. Giving those features (outside of the customer service) to everyone wouldn't have cost any additional money.
2) It strongly differentiated between players depending on what they paid.
3) It wasn't really a MMORPG and therefore was unlikely to have the 16 month hook necessary to recoup your investment.
4) As per point #1, it shouldn't have charged a dime for anything.
This, though, being a standard MMORPG? Fine. If WoW offered a lifetime subscription for $150 people would jump all over it. Which is why I'd hope this is a limited time offer. |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 16:06 |
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Lifetime subscription? Wtf?? Who buys into that shit, I mean seriously...
www.lotro.com
You'll find quite a few people who have bought into it and are still enjoying their investment, which is now completely a free-to-play full-fledged MMO. |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 15:14 |
Cabezone |
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| If you "only" get 1-3 years out of the game the lifetime sub is a deal. |
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Re: Champions Online Subscription Plans |
Aug 4, 2009, 15:14 |
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I just hope, for their sake, it has better quest structure than their last superhero game.
This comment was edited on Aug 4, 2009, 15:14. |
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