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764. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:15 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:15:
Why didn't the republicans argue? Because all 3 branches of government at the time were majority democrats, the ACA passed with zero republican votes, ZERO. That alone should raise a few red flags.

Right, that explains it.† Those Democrats must have redistributed the voices of the Republicans, rendering them unable to speak!† Those bastards!
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:15:
Rather than do it right, he pushed through a disaster of a plan, repeatedly lied about it, is still lying about it, and refuses to take any responsibility for how big a fail it's been so far.

So far?† Itís a month in and the website has been working sporadically.† Hardly the colossal systemic failure youíre trying to portray it as.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:15:
What do you propose Bagger, we spend another 100 billion+ on more failures?

100 billion+?!?† What the fuck planet do you live on?† You canít even be bothered to find an actual value to be pissed off about, and there certainly is one.† Again, this is why nobody takes you seriously.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:15:
Please propose something that not only will cut medical costs, but still allow people to make choices that will be best for them and their families?

First of all, you make the assumption that people will make the best choice for themselves.† When it comes to health insurance, the plans are often very vague about what is actually covered, and even health insurance experts often canít tell you for sure what would be covered.† This has been well documented and reported on for many years now.† Without adequate information, people canít be expected to make good choices.† The only choice they are making based on what they can afford and how effectively the insurance company has marketed their plan and hidden the deficiencies.†

This leaves the taxpayer stuck with the bill when they inevitably need care that isnít covered.† This is why we have a baseline now for what must be covered.† Because without such a baseline, we get stuck with the bill.† So people need to provide themselves with adequate coverage, or they pay a tax for not doing so. †This is called being responsible.† †

Obamacare is kind of a half-ass solution to the problem, that gets the idea of what needs to be done, but then utterly failed to implement it because they decided to give in to bi-partisanship (even though the Republicans still wouldnít vote for it) and caved to the insurance industry.† So yeah, itís not a great solution, and yeah, they definitely fucked up the rollout.† Itís still better than what weíve had up until now, and nobody has any better ideas for fixing the problems, aside from single-payer, but OMG socialism!
 
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753. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 12:47 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 11:21:
Why are you always so outright combative? This isn't about republicans or democrats, put the party aside for half a second, and please don't twist my words, there should be a limit as to what they can charge, that isn't the same as dictating what a procedure would cost, stop being like that, it serves no purpose.†
It's apparent that they didn't properly test, and that's my fault somehow? Stop making excuses for how big a failure it's been so far, and maybe post your own solutions that don't involve big government.†
Either that or just come out and admit that you're one of those government knows best advocates, because you certainly seem to be extremely reluctant to say one bad thing about how much fail it's been so far.
So tell me bagger, do you have any solutions or do you only require other people to offer them up?

Did you really just ask me why I'm combative?

Anyway, I wasn't making it about Republicans or Democrats. I simply wondered why Republicans didn't make a big issue of the plan requirements back when things were still being negotiated. How is that making it a partisan thing?

As for the IT problems, I've already said they fucked it up pretty well, and that I would love to know what happened to leave them with only a couple weeks to do integration testing, and how they thought they could roll it out given that timeframe. Not sure if today's congressional testimony will shed any light on that. I do want to know what happened.

As for solutions, I see single payer as the best option. It creates the biggest risk pool and provides the best price negotiation position. We also have many examples of such systems to learn from when implementing it. Some countries have done it well and others have done it poorly. We can use that information to our advantage.

Ultimately we are going to provide health care for everyone. The question is whether we're going to continue to do it in a most expensive, inefficient and least effective way, or are we going to do it in a way that actually keeps people healthier so they can work and contribute to the economy instead of waiting until they need expensive emergency care and are unable to contribute anything.

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740. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 11:14 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 11:03:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 10:51:
I know that asking you for specifics on anything is generally a waste of time, but I'm curious about how a president RollinThundr, in all his infinitesimal wisdom, would propose to pay for the care of all the uninsured that show up to the ERs in need of very expensive care. Please explain.

Via regulation so that both hospitals and big pharma aren't allowed to drive up cost just because they can. I think that would be a better start than forcing everyone to pay for coverages they may or may not need and allow individuals to choose what works best for them in their situations, rather than a one size fits all government mandate, buy it or suffer the consequences. Are we in America anymore? That's not even taking into account that every time through out history, anytime government tries to do something better the public sector it always ends up costing more or being implemented horribly. That goes for either party, that's just government in general, inept.

I don't claim to have all the answers bagger, but good God man, do you honestly think with all the facts coming out, that this has been somehow better at all?
"Big IT project runs late and over budget" wouldn't be news anywhere. The part about people not getting to keep their crappy insurance, thereby forcing others to pay for their care when they eventually need it, is a non-issue. I do think they should have explained that better before. I'm surprised Republicans didn't point that out a long time ago.

So your solution would be to tell doctors, hospitals and insurance companies what they can charge for their services? And you think that's better? You're right. You don't have any good answers. When you have a better plan than what we're doing now, let us know. Until then, you're just bitching about things you don't understand.
 
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737. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 10:51 Wowbagger_TIP
 
I know that asking you for specifics on anything is generally a waste of time, but I'm curious about how a president RollinThundr, in all his infinitesimal wisdom, would propose to pay for the care of all the uninsured that show up to the ERs in need of very expensive care. Please explain.  
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733. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 09:19 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 07:44:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 23:20:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 22:48:
The 2 million people who so far lost their healthcare (900,000 Californians in the last 2 weeks) would say Obamacare is a disaster. Next year it will be 16 million. I've been posting dozens of links showing the damage this mess of government intrusion is causing. Or just research it yourself. Even the mainstream media can't ignore any longer.

There's two types of people still defending Obamacare: those who are totally ignorant of reality and know nothing about what's going on outside their bubble; and those who accept it's hurting people but don't care because they love Obama and liberalism so much that without it their lives are meaningless. Or you're a politician looking for money and votes.

Meanwhile...
NBC/WSJ poll: Obama approval sinks to new low

Lost their healthcare, or had to switch to a different plan? By the definition I've seen in the news lately, I lose my healthcare every single year when I have to choose a new plan and pay a higher rate. What else is new?

Also, like I said before, if those plans they were on don't cover at least the basic things we need insurance for (ER, hospital stay, pretty much any kind of disease, not excluding Cancer which many try to get away with), then those people are not really covered, and we will still have the same problem with paying through the nose to cover their medical bills because there's no way they can do it themselves. They might as well be uninsured as far as the taxpayer is concerned.

That is literally what Obama started using in his hollow talking points this week. "Transitioning". And once again it isn't true.

People should be allowed to buy whatever plans they want. If I'm a young single male in perfect health, have 20/20 vision, and never used drugs, why do I have to buy maternity care, vision care, and drug rehab care? All those things and more are mandatory under Obamacare which is deliberately driving the prices up and dropping people from what they already have. Now if I don't buy that useless coverage I'm breaking the law. It's amazing there are people who defend this.

Hilarious and despicable.
Requiring people to have insurance or pay a tax is not wrong in a country where we provide medical care to all. We don't kick people out of the ER if they don't have insurance. Even though we know they'll never be able to pay for their care. Like Romney said, we already have universal health care. He just didn't want to mention that we pay a ridiculous amount for it because we provide it in the least efficient way imaginable. Obamacare is not an ideal answer to the problem, but it was the best they could get through Congress at the time, and for all its flaws, it's still better than what we had before.
 
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731. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 09:16 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 08:20:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 01:30:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 23:28:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 23:18:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 21:31:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 17:46:
This thread stands as a towering monument to RollinThundr's diminutive intellect.

Anytime RT tries to start some shit in a thread in the future, we should simply link this thread and say, "sorry, you're not qualified to make an argument."

This is the shit I mean, it's constant personal attacks with left leaning folks, it's like you can debate with out calling someone an idiot or a retard, you people don't attack their content just them to try and invalidate their opinions. It's ridiculous.

And it's all because you're the type of people that can't fucking stand that there are always going to be those who are more successful than you, like you have to get them, to make them somehow pay for those who refuse to elevate themselves.
Are you whining about adhoms again? I would probably lose count of all the ones you've tossed out after about 2 pages. Quit being a whiny hypocrite.

As for making people pay for success, that's just stupid. I'm already in the top few percent of households based on income. My wife and I both make pretty decent money and we have no kids. I couldn't care less that there are people more successful. I'm plenty comfortable where I'm at. I do want to make sure all those people that aren't doing very well, for a whole variety of reasons, aren't completely fucked over. You seem to think that the only possible reason anyone isn't making sweet bank is that they are just lazy. That's your worldview, but it's the typical overly simplistic, bumper-sticker-esque view I would expect from you (i.e. it's fucking dumb).

Nope just pointing out fact, " I do want to make sure all those people that aren't doing very well, for a whole variety of reasons, aren't completely fucked over." By passing a shitty healthcare bill that will fuck everyone over? Regardless of their situation? Fucking brilliant!

Anyone can have success if they want it, you have to work for it, it's obviously going to be harder for those that don't start out with high means, but to continue to push this bullshit fantasy that only certain people can be successful is just that fantasy. It's the only reason anyone with half a brain votes democrat at all, conditioned to feel guilty for those who refuse to apply themselves. Fuck that, fuck them and fuck you.

Bumper sticker esque eh? Kinda like OBAMA HOPE AND CHANGE! I don't know what's more pathetic, believing that liberal politicians give a shit about you, or anyone else for that matter, or feeling so much guilt for something that is beyond your control and that you can't change anyway. Bleed on little liberal, papa Obozo gonna kiss it and make it all better.

Like I said, simplistic "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" BS. I've already given up trying to persuade you that your views are poorly thought out and ridiculously over-simplified, so now I'm mostly just commenting on your responses because it amuses me. That's about all you're good for.

Over simplified my ass, either you go and make a life for yourself or you don't. There's nothing over simplified about it
Except that you just over-simplified it to the point of absurdity again right there. Your black and white view and generalizations are just useless, and utterly unsupported.
 
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728. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 01:30 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 23:28:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 23:18:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 21:31:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 17:46:
This thread stands as a towering monument to RollinThundr's diminutive intellect.

Anytime RT tries to start some shit in a thread in the future, we should simply link this thread and say, "sorry, you're not qualified to make an argument."

This is the shit I mean, it's constant personal attacks with left leaning folks, it's like you can debate with out calling someone an idiot or a retard, you people don't attack their content just them to try and invalidate their opinions. It's ridiculous.

And it's all because you're the type of people that can't fucking stand that there are always going to be those who are more successful than you, like you have to get them, to make them somehow pay for those who refuse to elevate themselves.
Are you whining about adhoms again? I would probably lose count of all the ones you've tossed out after about 2 pages. Quit being a whiny hypocrite.

As for making people pay for success, that's just stupid. I'm already in the top few percent of households based on income. My wife and I both make pretty decent money and we have no kids. I couldn't care less that there are people more successful. I'm plenty comfortable where I'm at. I do want to make sure all those people that aren't doing very well, for a whole variety of reasons, aren't completely fucked over. You seem to think that the only possible reason anyone isn't making sweet bank is that they are just lazy. That's your worldview, but it's the typical overly simplistic, bumper-sticker-esque view I would expect from you (i.e. it's fucking dumb).

Nope just pointing out fact, " I do want to make sure all those people that aren't doing very well, for a whole variety of reasons, aren't completely fucked over." By passing a shitty healthcare bill that will fuck everyone over? Regardless of their situation? Fucking brilliant!

Anyone can have success if they want it, you have to work for it, it's obviously going to be harder for those that don't start out with high means, but to continue to push this bullshit fantasy that only certain people can be successful is just that fantasy. It's the only reason anyone with half a brain votes democrat at all, conditioned to feel guilty for those who refuse to apply themselves. Fuck that, fuck them and fuck you.

Bumper sticker esque eh? Kinda like OBAMA HOPE AND CHANGE! I don't know what's more pathetic, believing that liberal politicians give a shit about you, or anyone else for that matter, or feeling so much guilt for something that is beyond your control and that you can't change anyway. Bleed on little liberal, papa Obozo gonna kiss it and make it all better.

Like I said, simplistic "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" BS. I've already given up trying to persuade you that your views are poorly thought out and ridiculously over-simplified, so now I'm mostly just commenting on your responses because it amuses me. That's about all you're good for.
 
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723. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 23:20 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 22:48:
The 2 million people who so far lost their healthcare (900,000 Californians in the last 2 weeks) would say Obamacare is a disaster. Next year it will be 16 million. I've been posting dozens of links showing the damage this mess of government intrusion is causing. Or just research it yourself. Even the mainstream media can't ignore any longer.

There's two types of people still defending Obamacare: those who are totally ignorant of reality and know nothing about what's going on outside their bubble; and those who accept it's hurting people but don't care because they love Obama and liberalism so much that without it their lives are meaningless. Or you're a politician looking for money and votes.

Meanwhile...
NBC/WSJ poll: Obama approval sinks to new low

Lost their healthcare, or had to switch to a different plan? By the definition I've seen in the news lately, I lose my healthcare every single year when I have to choose a new plan and pay a higher rate. What else is new?

Also, like I said before, if those plans they were on don't cover at least the basic things we need insurance for (ER, hospital stay, pretty much any kind of disease, not excluding Cancer which many try to get away with), then those people are not really covered, and we will still have the same problem with paying through the nose to cover their medical bills because there's no way they can do it themselves. They might as well be uninsured as far as the taxpayer is concerned.
 
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721. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 23:18 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 21:31:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 17:46:
This thread stands as a towering monument to RollinThundr's diminutive intellect.

Anytime RT tries to start some shit in a thread in the future, we should simply link this thread and say, "sorry, you're not qualified to make an argument."

This is the shit I mean, it's constant personal attacks with left leaning folks, it's like you can debate with out calling someone an idiot or a retard, you people don't attack their content just them to try and invalidate their opinions. It's ridiculous.

And it's all because you're the type of people that can't fucking stand that there are always going to be those who are more successful than you, like you have to get them, to make them somehow pay for those who refuse to elevate themselves.
Are you whining about adhoms again? I would probably lose count of all the ones you've tossed out after about 2 pages. Quit being a whiny hypocrite.

As for making people pay for success, that's just stupid. I'm already in the top few percent of households based on income. My wife and I both make pretty decent money and we have no kids. I couldn't care less that there are people more successful. I'm plenty comfortable where I'm at. I do want to make sure all those people that aren't doing very well, for a whole variety of reasons, aren't completely fucked over. You seem to think that the only possible reason anyone isn't making sweet bank is that they are just lazy. That's your worldview, but it's the typical overly simplistic, bumper-sticker-esque view I would expect from you (i.e. it's fucking dumb).
 
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714. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 17:46 Wowbagger_TIP
 
This thread stands as a towering monument to RollinThundr's diminutive intellect.

Anytime RT tries to start some shit in a thread in the future, we should simply link this thread and say, "sorry, you're not qualified to make an argument."
 
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709. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 14:08 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 13:09:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 13:00:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 12:18:
Where'd that weird "Korea" come from in your Beamer quote Wowbagger?
Hah. I have no idea. Managing quotes and stuff is a PITA when I'm posting from my phone. Can't imagine where that word came from though.

Yeah I try to avoid posting from my phone because it's extremely frustrating. But one strategy I have, while at work when Bluesnews is blocked, is the chrome-to-phone extension/app. I type my whole post in a textbox on a site that's not blocked, select the text, and on a context menu select "Chrome to Phone" and then it appears on my phone clipboard and I can paste it here.

That sounds awesome! I gotta get that, thanks!
 
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706. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 13:00 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 12:18:
Where'd that weird "Korea" come from in your Beamer quote Wowbagger?
Hah. I have no idea. Managing quotes and stuff is a PITA when I'm posting from my phone. Can't imagine where that word came from though.
 
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2. Re: Rocksmith 2014 Smashing Pumpkins DLC Oct 30, 2013, 12:20 Wowbagger_TIP
 
I just got RS2014 yesterday, along with a guitar, and I'm trying to learn from scratch. Never played at all before. This is gonna be interesting  
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703. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 12:16 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 11:28:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 11:23:

Lol. Most shareholders have little power over consequences for a CEO. They may step down after a major fuckup, but they're still gonna get paid tens of millions on the way out.
Korea
Well, in theory that golden parachute serves two purposes:
1) To get them to be willing to take the job. CEO is an apex position, and a short lived one. Despite what you see from celeb CEOs, the average CEO tenure is something like 2 years. And it can be hard to go from being a CEO somewhere to anything anywhere - usually it's CEO then retirement, whether you want it or not. So that parachute is to help convince someone it's good to go from a VP job you can ride for a bit to a job where the clock ticks faster (in truth, VP jobs have a clicking clock, too. The new CEO wants his people. Someone younger is bringing in fresher ideas. Or you were in charge during bad years, which had nothing to do with you, and now that things turned around they want that stigma of older management gone)
2) It rewards risk. You don't want a CEO playing it safe and going for moderate growth afraid he'll fail and be ruined. You want a CEO willing to take chances. That golden parachute is his insurance in chase a risk doesn't pan out. If it pans out, the company gets huge growth. If it doesn't, the company has a bad few years and the CEO gets booted for one that hopefully can change things

Golden parachutes are infuriating and usually too large, but are inherently a good and necessary thing.

Oh look, I'm defending corporations and CEOs! I must be parroting the DNC!

That actually makes sense, and I get it that the incentives are needed. I just think that, like you said, they're often too large, and they often seem to have almost no strings attached, so it doesn't matter how spectacularly bad they perform. They're retiring rich regardless. Even if they've sent the company into a nosedive.
 
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691. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 11:23 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 11:17:
Beamer wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 11:15:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 11:14:
You're moving the goalpost, now it's only CEO's don't get fired, a minute ago it was no one in business ever gets fired.

No, no I am not. I am using CEOs as examples because they are high profile and it's easy to look at them - Johnny QA being fired never makes headlines.

But, to your point, in my first paragraph I say "President and VP," neither of whom are CEOs, and in my second paragraph I say "People," who certainly aren't CEOs.

Only my second to last sentence says "CEO." It isn't my fault you can't read and project that to all the lines you read before.

The reason they don't say fired is because they step down to save face, it's the same thing, if the share holders want a change, a change they get. Share holders being people, like you and me.

Lol. Most shareholders have little power over consequences for a CEO. They may step down after a major fuckup, but they're still gonna get paid tens of millions on the way out.
 
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689. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 11:19 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 10:45:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 10:37:
Prez wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 10:26:
Rolling Thunder, it seems ironic to me that you are quick to deny the label yet you are so quick to call people liars who deny the label you assign them.

He's going to say something about ducks now and that will clear the whole thing up.

It must be terrible for you watching this mess unfold and knowing in the back of your mind the opponents of Obamacare were right.
Right about what? This is hardly the first government or private IT project to go awry. It may take a few extra months to get it working, but that really has nothing to do with how successful it will be at getting people insured in the long run. We don't tend to judge the success of other programs based on their initial startup, so why do that with this one?

That said, it seems that there were some serious management issues if they found themselves with only a couple of weeks for integration testing.
 
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676. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 10:55 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 10:41:
Prez wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 10:26:
Rolling Thunder, it seems ironic to me that you are quick to deny the label yet you are so quick to call people liars who deny the label you assign them.

I'll use beamer as an example here. Often brings up the race card in topics that have zero to do with race. Check. Often advocates against corporations while suggesting government can do it better. check. BUT BUT BUSH/CONGRESS Check.

For a while it was like every response in political threads was like a walking talking DNC playbook brought to life.

Bagger does the same thing, it's like they can't discuss something without tossing out a ton of adhoms most of the time, you do it back and they get all butthurt about it.

A spade is a spade is it not?

When a person parrots a liberal ideology 99.9% of the time, what do you expect people to think their leanings are? Conservative?

Your view of reality is so warped, it's hilarious. Anyone whose read your posts in this thread would be laughing their ass off
 
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668. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 10:30 Wowbagger_TIP
 
I haven't had much time to research it yet, but I would still love to know if it's true that they only had a couple of weeks to do integration testing. If so, then how the hell did that happen? They should have had months for that.  
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659. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 09:18 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 09:12:
More proof this entire administration is totally corrupt.

http://tinyurl.com/ndyxraq


Apparently not satisfied with just setting fire to the 4th Amendment, NSA boss Keith Alexander's next target is the 1st Amendment. In an interview with the Defense Department's "Armed With Science" blog, it appears that Alexander felt he'd have a friendly audience, so he let loose with some insane claims, including suggesting that the government needs to find a way to "stop" journalists from reporting on the Snowden leaks.

"I think itís wrong that newspaper reporters have all these documents, the 50,000ówhatever they have and are selling them and giving them out as if theseóyou know it just doesnít make sense," Alexander said in an interview with the Defense Department's "Armed With Science" blog.

"We ought to come up with a way of stopping it. I donít know how to do that. Thatís more of the courts and the policymakers but, from my perspective, itís wrong to allow this to go on," the NSA director declared.

Not surprisingly, though hilariously, the blogger for the Defense Department's "Armed With Science," Jessica Tozer doesn't appear to challenge any of Alexander's claims. Instead, she repeats all the statements and mocks anyone who might challenge them.

Since when does this kind of totally unsurprising thing only apply to this administration? Once again, you're a moron.
 
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655. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 01:02 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 00:02:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 23:53:
So many folksy sayings, so little substance.

Fact of the matter is there were better ways to do it, either via regulation, or having an opt out option that allowed you to keep your existing plan if you were already happy with it.

Though with the amount of lobbying that goes on in DC it's no wonder we got the mess we did that Obamacare is.

That's really 95% of the issue with the US, lobbyist.

A lot of the existing plans were part of the problem. Many don't cover a lot of the things that we need them to cover to be worth a damn at saving us money. They don't cover hospital stays or they don't cover cancer, or whatever. Then the people end up in the hospital anyway, with fucking cancer, and we all pay through the fucking nose for it because the bullshit plan they had doesn't even do the bare minimum that someone would need insurance for.
 
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