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850. Re: Morning Metaverse Nov 1, 2013, 19:43 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 18:02:

Liberal policies always shrink the middle class, read a history book instead of trying to redefine it like your ilk always does.

If you really wanted to strengthen the middle class you'd not be voting for democrats in the first place.

I get it, you want to pick and choose certain aspects of the economy to paint a pretty picture, reality doesn't work like that.

Again you know nothing about me, stop claiming you do mr I make so much money but give nothing back. Want to pay more taxes? Go head, I doubt the government would tell you no. There you go, there's your solution! All you liberals that claim all we need to do is tax more can just give up more. Win win!

Ok, so what history book did you get this knowledge of the economy from?

I think we understand just fine that there are a lot of factors tied into the economy. That doesn't mean that you can't answer basic questions about parts of it. That you consider it all one nebulous entity where the only factors that matters are government spending and "printing money" shows exactly how little you actually understand about it.

 
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849. Re: Morning Metaverse Nov 1, 2013, 19:35 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 17:34:
It's also quite bullshit in regards to national media coverage, most of those crimes are swept under the rug, and you'd never hear Obama chime in on those cases, the fact that you can't even come to admit there's a general liberal bias in media to begin with speaks volumes, although with how much fail Obamacare has been so far even the left leaning stations can't spin that shit in a positive light at this point.

Swept under the rug how? They get news coverage, the perpetrators were arrested, charged and convicted. You're completely full of shit.
 
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845. Re: Morning Metaverse Nov 1, 2013, 17:27 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 16:42:
Explain to me then why we don't get mass media attention when 5 black teens kill a WW2 vet in his 80's for a whopping 20 bucks? Explain to me why we don't get mass media coverage when 4 blacks torture, rape, mutilate and kill a white couple in Tennessee? Or when they kill a white baseball player because "they were bored?" where's the mass outrage? If you for one minute tell me there's not a bias to not report massive crimes like that based on skin color, while proclaiming African Americans only as victims, like the Jessie Jacksons, and Al Sharptons of the world do on a daily basis, then you're either 1, an out right liar, or 2. You feel so guilty because slavery happened then I don't know what to tell you.

But saying all that makes me a racist obviously, because I don't think ANYONE should get special treatment based on color, and I'm a racist because I think you should be capable of being a productive member of society regardless of color. That's what racism is in America these days. It's sickening much like political correctness is sickening.

You asked this same question earlier and I gave you the answer, and you had no response to it.† Youíve apparently already purged the answer from your mind because it doesnít fit in with all the idiocy stored in there.†
The reason it doesnít make a big news splash (although it certainly did make the news, as I found out about two of those events because they were front page news on MSN.com)† is because the perpetrators were immediately arrested and charged with the crimes, as they should be.† So what exactly is your issue?

RollinThundr wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 16:42:
This is why I keep telling you you're illogical when talking about the economy, you cannot just pick and choose what factors affect an economy to suit your bias, you either talk about EVERYTHING that encompasses an economy, or you shut the fuck up.

Who do you think buys the products or services that corporations make & provide that contribute to an economy? The poor? Only other 1%'ers? Just the middle class? No EVERYONE but especially the middle class.

How do you think government spending affects investments, that then affects job growth and growth in general? Oh whats that? Government spending doesn't matter? Just taxes matter?

This is why I hate even bringing up economy with you, because you clearly have no fucking idea how the economy actually works, or just how many factors tie into it. You just repeat over and over the same flawed liberal class warfare bullshit talking points that no matter how many times you say it, it won't ever be reality.


Youíve conclusively proven here that you know nothing about economics, and specifically you have no answer to the question that Beamer asked.† Itís not magic.† The money exists and went somewhere.† Your sputtering and blathering on about stuff you donít understand isnít answering anything.
 
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809. Re: Morning Metaverse Nov 1, 2013, 00:31 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 22:59:
Research Log: Oct 31, 2013 15:46
Subject was observed flinging his own poo again.

LOL! Okay, I know it is a bit troll-ish, but it IS pretty funny.
Yeah, I know, but given that RT is beyond any reasoning, I was just salvaging some entertainment from this thing
 
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792. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:54 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:46:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:35:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous

You say that because our tax rate is lowest it's ever been that's why we have a deficit, say "spending doesn't matter." And now say record tax revenues also don't matter, economics aren't your strong point are they beamer?

TLDR if we weren't spending so much for the sake of it, we wouldn't be in the mess we are. BUT HURP DURP Liberal logic, SPENDING DOESN'T MATTER TAX THE 1% MOAR!!!


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783. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:03 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Well, I admit that I've only continued posting in this thread for my own amusement, and because I think of RT as a lab chimp. I'm curious to see how he responds to various stimuli. Observations to date have established that he usually just flings poo.  
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778. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 15:02 Wowbagger_TIP
 
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:55:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:47:
It's good to know that widowed mothers working multiple part time jobs to make end meet don't have a fucking life and aren't productive members of society.


Geez Beamer -- can you lighten up for once?
Yeah Beamer! It's really a low blow to confront them with the inevitable results of the policies they advocate!
 
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771. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:39 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:32:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:29:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:17:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:03:
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Gee, that's classy.

What's even classier is when he reminds people about it all the time.

What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

Of course you don't, you just think others should.

Huh? That... just makes no sense...

Keep up Junior, beamer's a bleeder remember, muh underprivileged need your money to survive they're incapable of as he puts it "pulling themselves up by the bootstraps" or in other words getting a fucking life and being a productive member of society. He'd happily pay more taxes thinking it won't be wasteful spending but giving it to charity? Fuck that noise!
Charity is a band-aid on the gaping wounds that society fails to fix. Guess when charitable donations are at their lowest? Nevermind, we'll be wating all day on an answer. It's when the economy is in the shitter. Otherwise known as the time when charity is most needed. Let me know when you solve that one.
 
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769. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:34 Wowbagger_TIP
 
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:23:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

I'm talking about the fact that multiple times in this thread you've felt it necessary to make a point of the fact that you are well compensated for your work. We get it.

Lol. I believe that was due to the claims by you guys that Beamer was just jealous of wealthier people and wanted to bring them down. (Which was also an adhom, but hey that's cool)
 
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767. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:29 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:17:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:03:
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:01:
Gee, that's classy.

What's even classier is when he reminds people about it all the time.

What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

Of course you don't, you just think others should.

Huh? That... just makes no sense...
 
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764. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:15 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:15:
Why didn't the republicans argue? Because all 3 branches of government at the time were majority democrats, the ACA passed with zero republican votes, ZERO. That alone should raise a few red flags.

Right, that explains it.† Those Democrats must have redistributed the voices of the Republicans, rendering them unable to speak!† Those bastards!
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:15:
Rather than do it right, he pushed through a disaster of a plan, repeatedly lied about it, is still lying about it, and refuses to take any responsibility for how big a fail it's been so far.

So far?† Itís a month in and the website has been working sporadically.† Hardly the colossal systemic failure youíre trying to portray it as.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:15:
What do you propose Bagger, we spend another 100 billion+ on more failures?

100 billion+?!?† What the fuck planet do you live on?† You canít even be bothered to find an actual value to be pissed off about, and there certainly is one.† Again, this is why nobody takes you seriously.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:15:
Please propose something that not only will cut medical costs, but still allow people to make choices that will be best for them and their families?

First of all, you make the assumption that people will make the best choice for themselves.† When it comes to health insurance, the plans are often very vague about what is actually covered, and even health insurance experts often canít tell you for sure what would be covered.† This has been well documented and reported on for many years now.† Without adequate information, people canít be expected to make good choices.† The only choice they are making based on what they can afford and how effectively the insurance company has marketed their plan and hidden the deficiencies.†

This leaves the taxpayer stuck with the bill when they inevitably need care that isnít covered.† This is why we have a baseline now for what must be covered.† Because without such a baseline, we get stuck with the bill.† So people need to provide themselves with adequate coverage, or they pay a tax for not doing so. †This is called being responsible.† †

Obamacare is kind of a half-ass solution to the problem, that gets the idea of what needs to be done, but then utterly failed to implement it because they decided to give in to bi-partisanship (even though the Republicans still wouldnít vote for it) and caved to the insurance industry.† So yeah, itís not a great solution, and yeah, they definitely fucked up the rollout.† Itís still better than what weíve had up until now, and nobody has any better ideas for fixing the problems, aside from single-payer, but OMG socialism!
 
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753. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 12:47 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 11:21:
Why are you always so outright combative? This isn't about republicans or democrats, put the party aside for half a second, and please don't twist my words, there should be a limit as to what they can charge, that isn't the same as dictating what a procedure would cost, stop being like that, it serves no purpose.†
It's apparent that they didn't properly test, and that's my fault somehow? Stop making excuses for how big a failure it's been so far, and maybe post your own solutions that don't involve big government.†
Either that or just come out and admit that you're one of those government knows best advocates, because you certainly seem to be extremely reluctant to say one bad thing about how much fail it's been so far.
So tell me bagger, do you have any solutions or do you only require other people to offer them up?

Did you really just ask me why I'm combative?

Anyway, I wasn't making it about Republicans or Democrats. I simply wondered why Republicans didn't make a big issue of the plan requirements back when things were still being negotiated. How is that making it a partisan thing?

As for the IT problems, I've already said they fucked it up pretty well, and that I would love to know what happened to leave them with only a couple weeks to do integration testing, and how they thought they could roll it out given that timeframe. Not sure if today's congressional testimony will shed any light on that. I do want to know what happened.

As for solutions, I see single payer as the best option. It creates the biggest risk pool and provides the best price negotiation position. We also have many examples of such systems to learn from when implementing it. Some countries have done it well and others have done it poorly. We can use that information to our advantage.

Ultimately we are going to provide health care for everyone. The question is whether we're going to continue to do it in a most expensive, inefficient and least effective way, or are we going to do it in a way that actually keeps people healthier so they can work and contribute to the economy instead of waiting until they need expensive emergency care and are unable to contribute anything.

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740. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 11:14 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 11:03:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 10:51:
I know that asking you for specifics on anything is generally a waste of time, but I'm curious about how a president RollinThundr, in all his infinitesimal wisdom, would propose to pay for the care of all the uninsured that show up to the ERs in need of very expensive care. Please explain.

Via regulation so that both hospitals and big pharma aren't allowed to drive up cost just because they can. I think that would be a better start than forcing everyone to pay for coverages they may or may not need and allow individuals to choose what works best for them in their situations, rather than a one size fits all government mandate, buy it or suffer the consequences. Are we in America anymore? That's not even taking into account that every time through out history, anytime government tries to do something better the public sector it always ends up costing more or being implemented horribly. That goes for either party, that's just government in general, inept.

I don't claim to have all the answers bagger, but good God man, do you honestly think with all the facts coming out, that this has been somehow better at all?
"Big IT project runs late and over budget" wouldn't be news anywhere. The part about people not getting to keep their crappy insurance, thereby forcing others to pay for their care when they eventually need it, is a non-issue. I do think they should have explained that better before. I'm surprised Republicans didn't point that out a long time ago.

So your solution would be to tell doctors, hospitals and insurance companies what they can charge for their services? And you think that's better? You're right. You don't have any good answers. When you have a better plan than what we're doing now, let us know. Until then, you're just bitching about things you don't understand.
 
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737. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 10:51 Wowbagger_TIP
 
I know that asking you for specifics on anything is generally a waste of time, but I'm curious about how a president RollinThundr, in all his infinitesimal wisdom, would propose to pay for the care of all the uninsured that show up to the ERs in need of very expensive care. Please explain.  
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733. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 09:19 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 07:44:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 23:20:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 22:48:
The 2 million people who so far lost their healthcare (900,000 Californians in the last 2 weeks) would say Obamacare is a disaster. Next year it will be 16 million. I've been posting dozens of links showing the damage this mess of government intrusion is causing. Or just research it yourself. Even the mainstream media can't ignore any longer.

There's two types of people still defending Obamacare: those who are totally ignorant of reality and know nothing about what's going on outside their bubble; and those who accept it's hurting people but don't care because they love Obama and liberalism so much that without it their lives are meaningless. Or you're a politician looking for money and votes.

Meanwhile...
NBC/WSJ poll: Obama approval sinks to new low

Lost their healthcare, or had to switch to a different plan? By the definition I've seen in the news lately, I lose my healthcare every single year when I have to choose a new plan and pay a higher rate. What else is new?

Also, like I said before, if those plans they were on don't cover at least the basic things we need insurance for (ER, hospital stay, pretty much any kind of disease, not excluding Cancer which many try to get away with), then those people are not really covered, and we will still have the same problem with paying through the nose to cover their medical bills because there's no way they can do it themselves. They might as well be uninsured as far as the taxpayer is concerned.

That is literally what Obama started using in his hollow talking points this week. "Transitioning". And once again it isn't true.

People should be allowed to buy whatever plans they want. If I'm a young single male in perfect health, have 20/20 vision, and never used drugs, why do I have to buy maternity care, vision care, and drug rehab care? All those things and more are mandatory under Obamacare which is deliberately driving the prices up and dropping people from what they already have. Now if I don't buy that useless coverage I'm breaking the law. It's amazing there are people who defend this.

Hilarious and despicable.
Requiring people to have insurance or pay a tax is not wrong in a country where we provide medical care to all. We don't kick people out of the ER if they don't have insurance. Even though we know they'll never be able to pay for their care. Like Romney said, we already have universal health care. He just didn't want to mention that we pay a ridiculous amount for it because we provide it in the least efficient way imaginable. Obamacare is not an ideal answer to the problem, but it was the best they could get through Congress at the time, and for all its flaws, it's still better than what we had before.
 
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731. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 09:16 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 08:20:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 01:30:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 23:28:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 23:18:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 21:31:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 17:46:
This thread stands as a towering monument to RollinThundr's diminutive intellect.

Anytime RT tries to start some shit in a thread in the future, we should simply link this thread and say, "sorry, you're not qualified to make an argument."

This is the shit I mean, it's constant personal attacks with left leaning folks, it's like you can debate with out calling someone an idiot or a retard, you people don't attack their content just them to try and invalidate their opinions. It's ridiculous.

And it's all because you're the type of people that can't fucking stand that there are always going to be those who are more successful than you, like you have to get them, to make them somehow pay for those who refuse to elevate themselves.
Are you whining about adhoms again? I would probably lose count of all the ones you've tossed out after about 2 pages. Quit being a whiny hypocrite.

As for making people pay for success, that's just stupid. I'm already in the top few percent of households based on income. My wife and I both make pretty decent money and we have no kids. I couldn't care less that there are people more successful. I'm plenty comfortable where I'm at. I do want to make sure all those people that aren't doing very well, for a whole variety of reasons, aren't completely fucked over. You seem to think that the only possible reason anyone isn't making sweet bank is that they are just lazy. That's your worldview, but it's the typical overly simplistic, bumper-sticker-esque view I would expect from you (i.e. it's fucking dumb).

Nope just pointing out fact, " I do want to make sure all those people that aren't doing very well, for a whole variety of reasons, aren't completely fucked over." By passing a shitty healthcare bill that will fuck everyone over? Regardless of their situation? Fucking brilliant!

Anyone can have success if they want it, you have to work for it, it's obviously going to be harder for those that don't start out with high means, but to continue to push this bullshit fantasy that only certain people can be successful is just that fantasy. It's the only reason anyone with half a brain votes democrat at all, conditioned to feel guilty for those who refuse to apply themselves. Fuck that, fuck them and fuck you.

Bumper sticker esque eh? Kinda like OBAMA HOPE AND CHANGE! I don't know what's more pathetic, believing that liberal politicians give a shit about you, or anyone else for that matter, or feeling so much guilt for something that is beyond your control and that you can't change anyway. Bleed on little liberal, papa Obozo gonna kiss it and make it all better.

Like I said, simplistic "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" BS. I've already given up trying to persuade you that your views are poorly thought out and ridiculously over-simplified, so now I'm mostly just commenting on your responses because it amuses me. That's about all you're good for.

Over simplified my ass, either you go and make a life for yourself or you don't. There's nothing over simplified about it
Except that you just over-simplified it to the point of absurdity again right there. Your black and white view and generalizations are just useless, and utterly unsupported.
 
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728. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 01:30 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 23:28:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 23:18:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 21:31:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 17:46:
This thread stands as a towering monument to RollinThundr's diminutive intellect.

Anytime RT tries to start some shit in a thread in the future, we should simply link this thread and say, "sorry, you're not qualified to make an argument."

This is the shit I mean, it's constant personal attacks with left leaning folks, it's like you can debate with out calling someone an idiot or a retard, you people don't attack their content just them to try and invalidate their opinions. It's ridiculous.

And it's all because you're the type of people that can't fucking stand that there are always going to be those who are more successful than you, like you have to get them, to make them somehow pay for those who refuse to elevate themselves.
Are you whining about adhoms again? I would probably lose count of all the ones you've tossed out after about 2 pages. Quit being a whiny hypocrite.

As for making people pay for success, that's just stupid. I'm already in the top few percent of households based on income. My wife and I both make pretty decent money and we have no kids. I couldn't care less that there are people more successful. I'm plenty comfortable where I'm at. I do want to make sure all those people that aren't doing very well, for a whole variety of reasons, aren't completely fucked over. You seem to think that the only possible reason anyone isn't making sweet bank is that they are just lazy. That's your worldview, but it's the typical overly simplistic, bumper-sticker-esque view I would expect from you (i.e. it's fucking dumb).

Nope just pointing out fact, " I do want to make sure all those people that aren't doing very well, for a whole variety of reasons, aren't completely fucked over." By passing a shitty healthcare bill that will fuck everyone over? Regardless of their situation? Fucking brilliant!

Anyone can have success if they want it, you have to work for it, it's obviously going to be harder for those that don't start out with high means, but to continue to push this bullshit fantasy that only certain people can be successful is just that fantasy. It's the only reason anyone with half a brain votes democrat at all, conditioned to feel guilty for those who refuse to apply themselves. Fuck that, fuck them and fuck you.

Bumper sticker esque eh? Kinda like OBAMA HOPE AND CHANGE! I don't know what's more pathetic, believing that liberal politicians give a shit about you, or anyone else for that matter, or feeling so much guilt for something that is beyond your control and that you can't change anyway. Bleed on little liberal, papa Obozo gonna kiss it and make it all better.

Like I said, simplistic "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" BS. I've already given up trying to persuade you that your views are poorly thought out and ridiculously over-simplified, so now I'm mostly just commenting on your responses because it amuses me. That's about all you're good for.
 
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723. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 23:20 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 22:48:
The 2 million people who so far lost their healthcare (900,000 Californians in the last 2 weeks) would say Obamacare is a disaster. Next year it will be 16 million. I've been posting dozens of links showing the damage this mess of government intrusion is causing. Or just research it yourself. Even the mainstream media can't ignore any longer.

There's two types of people still defending Obamacare: those who are totally ignorant of reality and know nothing about what's going on outside their bubble; and those who accept it's hurting people but don't care because they love Obama and liberalism so much that without it their lives are meaningless. Or you're a politician looking for money and votes.

Meanwhile...
NBC/WSJ poll: Obama approval sinks to new low

Lost their healthcare, or had to switch to a different plan? By the definition I've seen in the news lately, I lose my healthcare every single year when I have to choose a new plan and pay a higher rate. What else is new?

Also, like I said before, if those plans they were on don't cover at least the basic things we need insurance for (ER, hospital stay, pretty much any kind of disease, not excluding Cancer which many try to get away with), then those people are not really covered, and we will still have the same problem with paying through the nose to cover their medical bills because there's no way they can do it themselves. They might as well be uninsured as far as the taxpayer is concerned.
 
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721. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 23:18 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 21:31:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 17:46:
This thread stands as a towering monument to RollinThundr's diminutive intellect.

Anytime RT tries to start some shit in a thread in the future, we should simply link this thread and say, "sorry, you're not qualified to make an argument."

This is the shit I mean, it's constant personal attacks with left leaning folks, it's like you can debate with out calling someone an idiot or a retard, you people don't attack their content just them to try and invalidate their opinions. It's ridiculous.

And it's all because you're the type of people that can't fucking stand that there are always going to be those who are more successful than you, like you have to get them, to make them somehow pay for those who refuse to elevate themselves.
Are you whining about adhoms again? I would probably lose count of all the ones you've tossed out after about 2 pages. Quit being a whiny hypocrite.

As for making people pay for success, that's just stupid. I'm already in the top few percent of households based on income. My wife and I both make pretty decent money and we have no kids. I couldn't care less that there are people more successful. I'm plenty comfortable where I'm at. I do want to make sure all those people that aren't doing very well, for a whole variety of reasons, aren't completely fucked over. You seem to think that the only possible reason anyone isn't making sweet bank is that they are just lazy. That's your worldview, but it's the typical overly simplistic, bumper-sticker-esque view I would expect from you (i.e. it's fucking dumb).
 
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This thread stands as a towering monument to RollinThundr's diminutive intellect.

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