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News Comments > Path of Exile Launch This Week
4. Re: Path of Exile Launch This Week Oct 21, 2013, 21:44 Wowbagger_TIP
 
loomy wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 21:02:
this game is a clusterfuck. but it also feels more like diablo than diablo 3 does, so it's worth trying
Clusterfuck how, exactly? I haven't played in a while, but the beta was shaping up pretty nicely. Really just needed more content, which they seem to have added.
 
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253. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 00:30 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 20, 2013, 22:54:
Forcing people to buy healthcare or be fined is not a tax. Call it what it is, forcing a service on US citizens, which is a direct violation of the Constitution. Calling it a tax is just a loophole and one the SC should have had the balls to slap down.
Nope, read the ruling. It depends on how it's implemented, and it was implemented as a tax.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 20, 2013, 22:54:
Right, like that broad in Ohio who voted what, 5? 6 times for Obama? I don't see Conservative groups intimidating voters either like the Black Panthers and similar liberal groups.
Right. There are so many examples that you happen to remember a specific one rather than cite any actual data. Let me know once you have more than an anecdote. There were also plenty of examples of Republicans harassing or deceiving voters.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 20, 2013, 22:54:
Voting is important, making sure those votes are legal should also be important, illegal immigrants are always going to vote for democrats. The simple solution would be picture ID.
Do you have actual evidence of a significant problem of illegals voting? If not, then I'm gonna go with the reason that the Republicans behind these laws gave when talking about them at their gatherings. They were designed to decrease Democratic voter turnout. They didn't have any evidence of voter fraud.
 
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251. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 20, 2013, 21:26 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 20, 2013, 04:48:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 19, 2013, 16:34:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 19, 2013, 13:40:
They're turning on them because the TP doesn't want to be beholden to big business like a lot of the Republicans are already. They want to follow the constitution and slim down government. The fact that people have issue with that really does blow my mind. You know rather than keep voting for two sides of the same coin and hope and change that is always more of the same?

"Beholden to big business" in this instance is "not destroying the U.S. economy". Big business likes when the tea party talks about deregulation and lower taxes, they don't like when they make credible threats against the economy... That's not good for business.

I think this administration has done a good job destroying the economy without help from the TP quite honestly. There's a reason all these internet groups among others are distancing themselves.

Obamacare for example, should have never been signed into law in the first place. It's unconstitutional for the US government to force any sort of service on it's people. That's exactly what Obamacare does.

Makes me wonder what Eric "I should be in jail" Holder has on the SC justices that they let this travesty of a bill get signed into law.
Nothing. It's a tax, plain and simple. They tried to avoid calling it that since it makes Republican knees all jerky, but that's what it was, and that's what the court pointed out, which is why it's not unconstitutional.


RollinThundr wrote on Oct 20, 2013, 04:48:
Then you get into voter fraud and voter intimidation, another thing dems are experts in. Though I wonder if next election will bring out as many Black Panthers this time around.

And to think if we just forced people to show an id that proves they're a US citizen a lot of that could be avoided. But that would be racist too apparently. Rolleyes2
You're really gonna go there? I think you'll find the actual fraud/intimidation cases fall heavier on the Republican side, and are still negligible when it comes to actual elections anyway. Then we get to all the anti-voter laws that Republicans were passing specifically, and admittedly to reduce Democratic turnout. They couldn't even point to any actual cases of in-person voting fraud, because there are so few as to make them inconsequential. So really, take your bullshit on this subject somewhere else. I'm sick to death of Republicans talking about voter fraud. It's all complete bullshit.
 
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246. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 19, 2013, 19:14 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 19, 2013, 13:40:
They're turning on them because the TP doesn't want to be beholden to big business like a lot of the Republicans are already. They want to follow the constitution and slim down government. The fact that people have issue with that really does blow my mind. You know rather than keep voting for two sides of the same coin and hope and change that is always more of the same?

While I don't enjoy voting for the lesser evil, I will do that rather than vote for these guys that are largely either complete idiots, or at least doing a good impression of one in order to appeal to their base. Just listening to their speeches is painful, as they're either transparently lying or just saying things so stupid that it's downright frightening that they actually got elected.

Besides, these TP guys aren't going to do anything to fix the lousy electoral system we have, which is a big part of the reason we end up with the choice between dumb and dumber.

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1. Re: Evening Patches Oct 18, 2013, 22:22 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Marvel Heroes 1.4 and Grim Dawn beta for early access backers are out today too  
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241. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 19:37 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Dirwulf wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 15:49:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 09:35:
Verno wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 08:47:
You can't get mad at them, you totally misrepresented something and got nailed on it. There is no dancing around it, my 5 year old knows better than to pull that crap. You want to push your agenda then at least own it when you screw up.

I'm not really mad to be honest, just eye rolling at how hypocritical most left leaning people are. I have read so much whining and crying about the tea party and what they stand for, when everyone who likes freedom and their rights should be moving to embrace them.

The 2 party system really is one party, they just have their spending priorities in difference places. I'd never thought I'd say it but really if we want any small possible chance at actual Hope and Change and not that bullshit Obama's been selling you, people would start voting for the Cruzs' and Pauls' of the world, rather than continuing to reelect the same bozos every 4 years, be they either D or R.

George Carlin really said it best, "Sooner or later the people of this country are going to realize government doesn't give a fuck about them,government doesn't care about you, All they're interested in is keeping and expanding their own power"

Even the business people are turning against the tea party now.
Not that I trust the business community to do anything except deregulate themselves and push for anything that lets them make more money regardless of the consequences, but at least they aren't trying to destroy the economy like the TP morons. Maybe they'll be slightly more discerning in who they throw money at in the future...
 
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240. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 19:33 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 16:00:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 15:50:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 15:36:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 15:09:
Apparently you care since you were the one insisting that the TP is a grass roots thing from 2009. Soros has absolutely nothing to do with your claim and nobody else said anything about him. You were just wrong. Deal with it and quit bringing up irrelevant other crap.

As for the superpacs thing, I don't see a way to fix it short of doing public financing of campaigns. Even that is only a partial fix. Maybe you have some better idea that won't run afoul of the first amendment.

I don't think the first amendment has much to do with giving politicians tons of cash.

I shouldn't have to bring up the reason I mentioned him at all. It was merely to demonstrate that it's ok when liberals do it, fund causes and push their believes and agendas, you guys have zero issue with that. To be honest it's guys like Soros that caused the shift in this country to push forth the believe that everyone is entitled out of the womb. Not one person would have thought that way 20 years ago.

When conservative groups do it, you get upset about it. You can't have it both ways.

I think the message however is more important, so I'll repeat it again, smaller, streamlined and more limited government oversight, (yes you still need regulations for things don't go there) and reigning in the spending.

I really don't care how we get there to be honest.

Dude. You are not getting it. Nobody made any claim about it being ok for liberals but not for conservatives. Nobody gave a damn that the Kochs created the TP. The ONLY point of dispute is that you were claiming that they weren't involved until later. THAT is the only thing that was being corrected. Everything else you've been saying is just straw-man bullshit. OK?

As for the first amendment being an issue, look at how the money is used by the campaigns. They buy assloads of advertising with it. So what if the money doesn't go directly to the candidate but to some other corporation set up as a superpac or whatever other type of corp is convenient. Are we going to prevent them from running ads on TV? What if the ads don't specifically mention the candidate, even if they make it obvious who it is? How obvious would it have to be? That's just regulation hell right there, and I wouldn't want to go there.

Honestly, poltical ads are all mud slinging these days anyway and are dishonest on both sides. We need them why?

How could they be prevented?
 
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237. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 15:50 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 15:36:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 15:09:
Apparently you care since you were the one insisting that the TP is a grass roots thing from 2009. Soros has absolutely nothing to do with your claim and nobody else said anything about him. You were just wrong. Deal with it and quit bringing up irrelevant other crap.

As for the superpacs thing, I don't see a way to fix it short of doing public financing of campaigns. Even that is only a partial fix. Maybe you have some better idea that won't run afoul of the first amendment.

I don't think the first amendment has much to do with giving politicians tons of cash.

I shouldn't have to bring up the reason I mentioned him at all. It was merely to demonstrate that it's ok when liberals do it, fund causes and push their believes and agendas, you guys have zero issue with that. To be honest it's guys like Soros that caused the shift in this country to push forth the believe that everyone is entitled out of the womb. Not one person would have thought that way 20 years ago.

When conservative groups do it, you get upset about it. You can't have it both ways.

I think the message however is more important, so I'll repeat it again, smaller, streamlined and more limited government oversight, (yes you still need regulations for things don't go there) and reigning in the spending.

I really don't care how we get there to be honest.

Dude. You are not getting it. Nobody made any claim about it being ok for liberals but not for conservatives. Nobody gave a damn that the Kochs created the TP. The ONLY point of dispute is that you were claiming that they weren't involved until later. THAT is the only thing that was being corrected. Everything else you've been saying is just straw-man bullshit. OK?

As for the first amendment being an issue, look at how the money is used by the campaigns. They buy assloads of advertising with it. So what if the money doesn't go directly to the candidate but to some other corporation set up as a superpac or whatever other type of corp is convenient. Are we going to prevent them from running ads on TV? What if the ads don't specifically mention the candidate, even if they make it obvious who it is? How obvious would it have to be? That's just regulation hell right there, and I wouldn't want to go there.
 
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234. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 15:09 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 12:14:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 12:11:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 05:34:
Here's the thing, if you people are so upset that a group would like to actually respect the US Constitution and follow it, while at the same time being fine with a socialist douchenozzle like Soros doing the same exact thing for far longer pushing "progressive" drivel, I have zero to say to you.


I didn't realize either that Jenny Beth Martin, you know the person who actually co founded the tea party movement was a Koch brother. Keep drinking that liberal media kool aid however (grape drank flavor no doubt). Ridiculous claims indeed.

So Ms. Martin set up that Tea Party website back in 2002? Whatever. She's probably the last person that should be discussing fiscal responsibility anyway, given her own past.

Regardless, it isn't hypocritical to point out that the TP has a history that predates 2009. You keep adding your straw-man comments to try to make it seem that way, but I've never defended Soros or any other billionaire, since I really don't know much about them. I only looked into this TP question a while back because others like you were making this claim that the Kochs had nothing to do with its creation.

And Soros has been doing it since the 70's, who cares?
Apparently you care since you were the one insisting that the TP is a grass roots thing from 2009. Soros has absolutely nothing to do with your claim and nobody else said anything about him. You were just wrong. Deal with it and quit bringing up irrelevant other crap.

As for the superpacs thing, I don't see a way to fix it short of doing public financing of campaigns. Even that is only a partial fix. Maybe you have some better idea that won't run afoul of the first amendment.
 
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228. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 12:11 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 05:34:
Here's the thing, if you people are so upset that a group would like to actually respect the US Constitution and follow it, while at the same time being fine with a socialist douchenozzle like Soros doing the same exact thing for far longer pushing "progressive" drivel, I have zero to say to you.


I didn't realize either that Jenny Beth Martin, you know the person who actually co founded the tea party movement was a Koch brother. Keep drinking that liberal media kool aid however (grape drank flavor no doubt). Ridiculous claims indeed.

So Ms. Martin set up that Tea Party website back in 2002? Whatever. She's probably the last person that should be discussing fiscal responsibility anyway, given her own past.

Regardless, it isn't hypocritical to point out that the TP has a history that predates 2009. You keep adding your straw-man comments to try to make it seem that way, but I've never defended Soros or any other billionaire, since I really don't know much about them. I only looked into this TP question a while back because others like you were making this claim that the Kochs had nothing to do with its creation.
 
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215. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 00:55 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 00:36:
Dirwulf wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 21:01:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:26:
Redmask wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:20:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:16:
Yeah as a parent it's your job, not the government's.

Hahah that was in a thread about in app phone purchases, good try to save face though!


Sure thing cupcake, doesn't make it any less true. Speaking of phones has Obama paid your mortgage and given you a shiny Obama phone yet? Allthumbsup

You should really educate yourself about the Lifeline program. There really is no such thing as an Obama phone, but you like to spread lies and Dittohead bullshit.

Do some research on who George Soros is, then come back and bitch about the Koch brothers. That's the thing with the more left/moderate leaning folks on this site. They demonize the Republicans all day long for this or that, yet not one peep that their own do it just as much if not more.
Dude, what are you talking about? Nobody said anything about Soros not funding liberal groups. What I, and others, took issue with was your claim that the TP was just a grass-roots thing rather than a creation of the Koch brothers. That was entirely wrong, as it's been pointed out to you. They've been working on the TP thing for over a decade. You can stop making your ridiculous claim now.
 
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209. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 22:05 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 18:13:
The tea party wasn't started by the Koch Brothers, they simply latched onto it. At any rate George Soros is just as bad if not worse. Again BOTH parties do this shit, yet only the republicans get repeatedly blasted for it. It's hypocrisy at it's finest.

If by "latched onto it" you mean "planned it for years in advance". Here's a website from a group they were funding over ten years ago: this is from 2002

They turned it from a fairly small, disorganized group of pissed off people into a large, well-organized, well-publicized, pseudo-third-party by throwing millions of dollars at it. So, no, it's really not just some grass-roots group. The Kochs bankrolled it, and Murdoch made Fox into their media arm.
 
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204. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 17:14 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Prez wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 16:52:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 11:49:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 09:17:
Verno wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 09:11:
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While I admire the strength of conviction of these men, they are purely idealists, not great leaders. A leader understands he has to give something in order to get something; how to compromise and when to stand your ground and when to pack it in and live to fight another day. Uncompromising men are often easier to admire than compromising men, but it is the compromising ones that get things done for the general welfare of the people. They also know how to separate personal religious values from all-encompassing legislation that affects the whole nation. They do not try to legislate their personal moral code upon everyone as they understand that not everyone believes as they do but everyone still has the same right of pursuit of their own happiness.

Well said Prez. Look at what this latest fiasco has cost us. Who came out looking worse? Most polls say the GOP. What was achieved? Nothing. A lot of money and time wasted, not to mention political capital and public opinion.

Yeah it's a shame the liberal media won't actually blame Obama for anything. That's why the public perception is "congress' fault"
Obama's just as much at fault, he's proven he's a terrible leader and unwilling to work with the other guys, in the same breath blaming the other guys for not compromising. They're both guilty.
The Dems had already compromised to a CR to fund at below Ryan plan levels. Boehner already agreed to that, but went back on it after he couldn't get the TP to go along. The TP decided that if they can't get what they want, they'll try to force a default and wreck the economy. It's hostage-taking 101. You don't deal with hostage-takers. You keep the pressure on them until you find a way to put a bullet in them without killing the hostages or until they give up. The saner parts of the GOP managed to get enough control to give up for now.

I wouldn't want Boehner's position for the world. He is in a constant lose-lose situation - cater to the considerable extreme right wing of the party and get blamed for gridlock. Try to compromise and get viciously attacked by your own party for being a sell-out. All the while the opposition criticizes you whatever you do.

No doubt. It's hard to be sympathetic though, since it was their own gerrymandering and rabble-rousing that created these ultraconservative districts that are biting them in the ass now. Funny that even the Koch brothers are trying to distance themselves from the Tea Party that they bankrolled. They counted on being able to control the crazy, forgetting that that's crazy in itself
 
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9. Re: Space Rangers HD: A War Apart Released Oct 17, 2013, 16:37 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Draugr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 16:30:
Guess I'll wait for a sale, 25 is too much.
Same here. Good game and all, but not shelling out that much for it this time. Maybe $10.
 
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185. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 12:11 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 11:53:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 11:49:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 09:17:
Verno wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 09:11:
Prez wrote on Oct 16, 2013, 17:56:

While I admire the strength of conviction of these men, they are purely idealists, not great leaders. A leader understands he has to give something in order to get something; how to compromise and when to stand your ground and when to pack it in and live to fight another day. Uncompromising men are often easier to admire than compromising men, but it is the compromising ones that get things done for the general welfare of the people. They also know how to separate personal religious values from all-encompassing legislation that affects the whole nation. They do not try to legislate their personal moral code upon everyone as they understand that not everyone believes as they do but everyone still has the same right of pursuit of their own happiness.

Well said Prez. Look at what this latest fiasco has cost us. Who came out looking worse? Most polls say the GOP. What was achieved? Nothing. A lot of money and time wasted, not to mention political capital and public opinion.

Yeah it's a shame the liberal media won't actually blame Obama for anything. That's why the public perception is "congress' fault"
Obama's just as much at fault, he's proven he's a terrible leader and unwilling to work with the other guys, in the same breath blaming the other guys for not compromising. They're both guilty.
The Dems had already compromised to a CR to fund at below Ryan plan levels. Boehner already agreed to that, but went back on it after he couldn't get the TP to go along. The TP decided that if they can't get what they want, they'll try to force a default and wreck the economy. It's hostage-taking 101. You don't deal with hostage-takers. You keep the pressure on them until you find a way to put a bullet in them without killing the hostages or until they give up. The saner parts of the GOP managed to get enough control to give up for now.

Yeah I'm sure the GOP just wants to have us default again for the sake of it.

There have been multiple proposals sent to Reid to have the senate vote on. There have been zero votes on any of them.

The Senate has been trying to enter budget conference with the House since March. They've been rejected 21 times because this has been the TP plan all along. It wasn't even a secret plan. The crap they want is not going to happen. We've already had that fight during the last election campaign. Romney said defunding Obamacare was the first thing he'd do if elected. He lost. They need to deal with that and move on, not hold our fucking economy hostage. They've now managed to turn even a lot of Republicans against them.
 
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184. Re: Internet abandons the US Oct 17, 2013, 11:59 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 11:48:
You'd think it would be common sense, 3 year olds are barely developed. c'mon how much scientific "proof" do you need to know that already? Headstart is a a total failure has been since day 1.
Common sense != science. Lots of things that people have considered to be common sense have turned out to be misconceptions. And, no, it's not a total failure. It has produced good results, but those results haven't been maintained in later grades. I'd like to actually find out why, rather than go with your hunch about 3 year olds. That's how we make real progress. We do science. That's why we're having this conversation on the freaking internet rather than via Pony Express.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 11:48:
I agree there's good teachers and bad, and I'm sure it varies from place to place, sadly the town I work for, I can count on one hand from a pool of 5 schools, from grammar to HS, the amount of actual good teachers that actually care about the kids learning something.

I'm with you on that, actually evaluating teachers on their abilities, however I have doubts any teacher's union would ever allow it. They have that protection, much like most city town workers have that same protection just a different union. That's why anytime you drive through a construction site there's 1 guy working and 5 standing around playing pocket pool.
If we can come up with good ways to objectively evaluate teachers, I'll be fighting to make the unions play ball or GTFO too.

I know some pretty dedicated teachers, and while people like to portray it as them babysitting for 9 months out of the year, these people work hard and for long hours, and then work more during the summer break too. That alone doesn't necessarily make them good teachers, and I'm sure there are plenty that just phone it in too. I don't like that the lousy ones get protected by the system, which is why we need to come up with a way of weeding them out without kicking out good ones as well. I think that should be one of our top priorities in education.
 
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182. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 11:49 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 09:17:
Verno wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 09:11:
Prez wrote on Oct 16, 2013, 17:56:

While I admire the strength of conviction of these men, they are purely idealists, not great leaders. A leader understands he has to give something in order to get something; how to compromise and when to stand your ground and when to pack it in and live to fight another day. Uncompromising men are often easier to admire than compromising men, but it is the compromising ones that get things done for the general welfare of the people. They also know how to separate personal religious values from all-encompassing legislation that affects the whole nation. They do not try to legislate their personal moral code upon everyone as they understand that not everyone believes as they do but everyone still has the same right of pursuit of their own happiness.

Well said Prez. Look at what this latest fiasco has cost us. Who came out looking worse? Most polls say the GOP. What was achieved? Nothing. A lot of money and time wasted, not to mention political capital and public opinion.

Yeah it's a shame the liberal media won't actually blame Obama for anything. That's why the public perception is "congress' fault"
Obama's just as much at fault, he's proven he's a terrible leader and unwilling to work with the other guys, in the same breath blaming the other guys for not compromising. They're both guilty.
The Dems had already compromised to a CR to fund at below Ryan plan levels. Boehner already agreed to that, but went back on it after he couldn't get the TP to go along. The TP decided that if they can't get what they want, they'll try to force a default and wreck the economy. It's hostage-taking 101. You don't deal with hostage-takers. You keep the pressure on them until you find a way to put a bullet in them without killing the hostages or until they give up. The saner parts of the GOP managed to get enough control to give up for now.
 
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RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 08:35:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 16, 2013, 23:38:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 16, 2013, 22:56:
well said. I actually agree with this. So for example, something like the failure that is the headstart program you would be alright finding a better solution then?

I'd be in favor of figuring out why the early gains from the program seem to be lost in later grades, and then doing something to fix that. Something is being done right to get those gains to begin with. Something is being done wrong to lose them. We've been falling behind other countries for decades now. We really can't afford to let our education system get worse.

Maybe it's because 3 year olds have this retention problem at that age. Which makes sense to begin with. they're 3 year olds ffs barely even cognitive or developed. Headstart is a total waste of money.

Well, your citations and scientific rigor have me convinced... Rolleyes

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 08:35:
Our education system isn't going to get much better no matter how much money you throw at it. Take it from someone who deals with a school system and it's administration almost daily, it's all political, most of these teachers could care less about actually teaching these kids anything but they love their union benies.

For an example, the school system wanting to waste 100 grand on a new network just so they can have sole control over it rather than use the infrastructure the town build for them already, only because they don't want to play ball and adhere to any sort of security when it comes to said network.

And I'm sure it happens everywhere not just small Mass towns. The Department of Education is prolly another huge waste of money we could trim down majorly.
I'm in favor of finding ways to evaluate teachers and make them more accountable. Most of the ways I've heard from both sides are pretty lacking though. I've had some really lousy teachers before, and I've had some really good ones. Most were somewhere in between. We need ways to make these determinations that won't be shooting ourselves in the foot. I don't think we have those ways yet. Tests alone don't cut it.
 
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RollinThundr wrote on Oct 16, 2013, 22:56:
well said. I actually agree with this. So for example, something like the failure that is the headstart program you would be alright finding a better solution then?

I'd be in favor of figuring out why the early gains from the program seem to be lost in later grades, and then doing something to fix that. Something is being done right to get those gains to begin with. Something is being done wrong to lose them. We've been falling behind other countries for decades now. We really can't afford to let our education system get worse.
 
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RollinThundr wrote on Oct 16, 2013, 17:20:
Beamer wrote on Oct 16, 2013, 13:26:
Fun fact: the US isn't even in the top 30 for debt as a % of GDP.

It's standard for debt whiners - they complain about the absolute value without actually putting it relative to anything (numbers alone are meaningless unless they're anchored to something. % of GDP is a good one. $ per capita is a good one. Absolute value is not a good one.) And none of them can ever explain why the debt will hurt us. In general, they complain about things like China owning us (without understanding how much China owns and why it isn't really a pressing concern.)

No one will say our debt is good. No one will say we shouldn't make broad moves to stem it from growing. But it isn't our most pressing concern. That debt has next to no impact on our domestic economy. That debt doesn't contribute to our country being a crappier place to live. Let's focus on things that do.

Except you offer zero ideas on how to keep the debt from growing, I've yet to see one person that I would consider a liberal by their opinions posted, ever offer once instance of how to trim our debt aside from gutting the military. Just once I'd love to see what things you asshats would actually trim.
it seems to me that democrats want big government, they obviously love being told what to do as well by said big government. Because they never make the argument that a slimmer more efficient government would save money in the long run. Instead they want the opposite. Blows my mind.

Lol @ the hyperbole "gutting the military". You get annoyed at others for ad hom and such, but apparently you aren't any better at discussing things than they are. Do you have to straw-man any position you don't like?

There's plenty that can be done to trim down defense spending without coming anywhere near "gutting" it. You don't seem to be interested in that conversation though.

Anyway, I need to go read up on this apparent resolution and see what happened.
 
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