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642. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 29, 2013, 21:10 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 15:03:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 12:08:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 12:08:

Edit: Guess you're not ignored. But it bears repeating anyway!

Wow. I hate posting from my phone.

So still waiting for your slathering reason as to why Obozocare is great, I held up my end.
Are you actually dumb enough to think you've accomplished anything like what I asked for? Wait, I already know the answer to that. You posted a link to Rand Paul saying nothing of any substance, and thern followed it up with a link to the press conference where Biden and Obama talked about and signed EAs that were nothing of substance. Where's the unconstitutional part?? Where's your explanation of how any one of those EAs is unconstitutional?? Or are you just gonna keep being the angry feces-hurling monkey?
 
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623. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 29, 2013, 12:08 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 12:06:
Beamer wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 10:32:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 08:28:
Beamer wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 02:54:
bullshit

Those aren't the EO's I, or the article are kreferring to, you know it, I know it.

Ladies and Gentlemen, we can close this thread. This asshole officially has no clue what he's talking about, and when called on it, he doesn't even admit it, he just says "you can't read between the lines!"

And RollinThundr, you ARE an asshole for this now. I don't think you can deny it. Let's run through this again:

1) You call almost all 23 Executive Orders on guns unconstitutional
2) People ask you which ones you mean
3) You get angry and tell them to look it up
4) People can't find it, ask you what you mean
5) You post some shitty, lying YouTube videos
6) People get confused and ask you about the Executive Orders
7) You never, ever fucking answer, BECAUSE YOU NEVER FUCKING KNOW WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT
8) I finally jump into this discussion, and point out that you're an idiot and they weren't Executive Orders (which aren't even fucking laws you fucking idiot) but Executive Actions (which are NOTHING)
9) I also link to them
10) You say "whatever, they're the same thing" (they aren't)
11) You never, ever fucking say anything about them. You call us idiots for not calling them unconstitutional. You say "I'M USING FACTS" despite never, ever even using one. "They're Unconstitutional" is an unsubstantiated claim, not a fact, and your tiny little brain wouldn't let you comment further
12) Fed up with your idiotic bullshit, I actually list the relevant parts of the Constitution, some relevant case law, and go through each of the 23 Actions, explaining why there is nothing wrong with them (per your argument. I think there's lots wrong with them, because Obama claiming they mean anything is basically a lie)
13) You claim they're not the Executive Orders and that I know it. Yet you still don't link to what you mean.
14) Wowbagger calls you out, saying those are the 23 Executive Actions on Gun Control signed the exact same day Rand Paul claims the constitution was violated
15) You don't acknowledge this, you just say "read between the lines," as if that's a valid response.



In short, you're a fucking moron and an asshole. You believe one party always lies to you but think Rand Paul wouldn't. As I said 100 posts ago, you fucking take any bullshit spoonfed into your brain and parrot it without ever reading it for yourself - clear from you CONSTANTLY AVOIDING any specifics about the 23 Executive Actions and not even knowing them when you see them. You believe any bullshit YouTube video that paints the Democrats in a negative light, even if it's an outlandish conspiracy theory. You are incapable of any kind of deep thought. You are incapable of any kind of analysis. You don't understand the difference between demonstrating facts and stating opinions. And you are too fucking mentally incapacitated to understand any of this and somehow think you're making brilliant, knowledgeable, well-reasoned and well-sourced arguments when you parrot bullshit, and too fucking unintelligent to realize you never fucking respond to any kind of request for information and just pretend someone asked you about an entirely different topic.


There. Thread fucking over. 600 off-topic posts about this stupid fucking Executive Action that was meaningless bullshit from a President that's often doing meaningless bullshit. I won't get into his other points, because then he just won't acknowledge this.


Edit: Guess you're not ignored. But it bears repeating anyway!

Wow. I hate posting from my phone.

This comment was edited on Oct 29, 2013, 13:52.
 
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622. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 29, 2013, 12:06 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 10:32:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 08:28:
Beamer wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 02:54:
bullshit

Those aren't the EO's I, or the article are kreferring to, you know it, I know it.

Ladies and Gentlemen, we can close this thread. This asshole officially has no clue what he's talking about, and when called on it, he doesn't even admit it, he just says "you can't read between the lines!"

And RollinThundr, you ARE an asshole for this now. I don't think you can deny it. Let's run through this again:

1) You call almost all 23 Executive Orders on guns unconstitutional
2) People ask you which ones you mean
3) You get angry and tell them to look it up
4) People can't find it, ask you what you mean
5) You post some shitty, lying YouTube videos
6) People get confused and ask you about the Executive Orders
7) You never, ever fucking answer, BECAUSE YOU NEVER FUCKING KNOW WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT
8) I finally jump into this discussion, and point out that you're an idiot and they weren't Executive Orders (which aren't even fucking laws you fucking idiot) but Executive Actions (which are NOTHING)
9) I also link to them
10) You say "whatever, they're the same thing" (they aren't)
11) You never, ever fucking say anything about them. You call us idiots for not calling them unconstitutional. You say "I'M USING FACTS" despite never, ever even using one. "They're Unconstitutional" is an unsubstantiated claim, not a fact, and your tiny little brain wouldn't let you comment further
12) Fed up with your idiotic bullshit, I actually list the relevant parts of the Constitution, some relevant case law, and go through each of the 23 Actions, explaining why there is nothing wrong with them (per your argument. I think there's lots wrong with them, because Obama claiming they mean anything is basically a lie)
13) You claim they're not the Executive Orders and that I know it. Yet you still don't link to what you mean.
14) Wowbagger calls you out, saying those are the 23 Executive Actions on Gun Control signed the exact same day Rand Paul claims the constitution was violated
15) You don't acknowledge this, you just say "read between the lines," as if that's a valid response.



In short, you're a fucking moron and an asshole. You believe one party always lies to you but think Rand Paul wouldn't. As I said 100 posts ago, you fucking take any bullshit spoonfed into your brain and parrot it without ever reading it for yourself - clear from you CONSTANTLY AVOIDING any specifics about the 23 Executive Actions and not even knowing them when you see them. You believe any bullshit YouTube video that paints the Democrats in a negative light, even if it's an outlandish conspiracy theory. You are incapable of any kind of deep thought. You are incapable of any kind of analysis. You don't understand the difference between demonstrating facts and stating opinions. And you are too fucking mentally incapacitated to understand any of this and somehow think you're making brilliant, knowledgeable, well-reasoned and well-sourced arguments when you parrot bullshit, and too fucking unintelligent to realize you never fucking respond to any kind of request for information and just pretend someone asked you about an entirely different topic.


There. Thread fucking over. 600 off-topic posts about this stupid fucking Executive Action that was meaningless bullshit from a President that's often doing meaningless bullshit. I won't get into his other points, because then he just won't acknowledge this.

 
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614. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 29, 2013, 10:55 Wowbagger_TIP
 
I thought you said it was something the President said. Now it's Biden? Maybe you need to provide an actual statement with actual context. I have 0 confidence in your ability to do that.

I think Beamer is right. You do little to no thinking of your own, so you're actually incapable of doing the research needed to understand an issue. You just regurgitate crap from others that you don't even understand yourself. You're so ridiculously simple that we all missed it for quite a while, even as you were doing your best to illustrate it for us. It was just hard to believe you're actually that dumb.
 
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611. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 29, 2013, 10:36 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 10:18:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 10:16:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 09:24:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 09:16:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 08:28:
Beamer wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 02:54:
bullshit

Those aren't the EO's I, or the article are referring to, you know it, I know it.
Those are the 23 post-Sandy-Hook EAs that both you and Rand Paul were referring to. I doubt you'll defend your claims, since Mr. Paul didn't defend his claim either, so you have nothing to copy-paste.

That you're incapable of reading between the lines with this president speaks volumes to begin with. It's so obvious to anyone who doesn't hate this country or doesn't have the government knows best mentality what's actually going on.

Ahh, so it's the things that the President didn't say he was going to do that are unconstitutional. Got it.

You are so full of fail

Obama's words "some of this I can do via EO" He said it not me, or are we going to pretend that didn't happen? Much like you're pretending Obamacare hasn't been full of fail so far.
Pretend what didn't happen? Has he said he was going to do something unconstitutional? What exactly would that be?
 
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606. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 29, 2013, 10:16 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 09:24:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 09:16:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 08:28:
Beamer wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 02:54:
bullshit

Those aren't the EO's I, or the article are referring to, you know it, I know it.
Those are the 23 post-Sandy-Hook EAs that both you and Rand Paul were referring to. I doubt you'll defend your claims, since Mr. Paul didn't defend his claim either, so you have nothing to copy-paste.

That you're incapable of reading between the lines with this president speaks volumes to begin with. It's so obvious to anyone who doesn't hate this country or doesn't have the government knows best mentality what's actually going on.

Ahh, so it's the things that the President didn't say he was going to do that are unconstitutional. Got it.

You are so full of fail
 
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604. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 29, 2013, 09:17 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Prez wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 09:00:
Report: W.H. knew plans would be canceled under ACA USA TODAY
Up to 75% of those with individual insurance will have policies cancelled, experts say.


RUH ROH!!!



If this was a story on Fox News, I wouldn't even give it a second glance. But when it is on USAToday reported by NBC, it's at least worth reading to see what it's about.

This is basically the same story Seph linked a few posts back. I think he summed it up well enough. Hell, I have to sign up for what is essentially a new plan every year because the insurance company changes the plans they offer every year.
 
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603. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 29, 2013, 09:16 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 08:28:
Beamer wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 02:54:
bullshit

Those aren't the EO's I, or the article are referring to, you know it, I know it.
Those are the 23 post-Sandy-Hook EAs that both you and Rand Paul were referring to. I doubt you'll defend your claims, since Mr. Paul didn't defend his claim either, so you have nothing to copy-paste.
 
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596. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 29, 2013, 00:55 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 00:18:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 29, 2013, 00:03:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 23:24:
I love how you ignore the evidence that not only did Obama lie about people being allowed to keep their plans (fact he knew this 3 years ago to be false) but the fact that it's going to cost more, off the backs of younger folks who honestly at that age don't even need healthcare and could be better spending their money towards oh I dunno paying off their school loans, or a car, or a house. etc.

What the hell is wrong with you liberals? Do you honestly believe anyone owes you anything? Who taught you to think this way? I'd seriously like to know.

If you love socialism so much move to Canada, stop trying to redefine the US to be a god damn fucking nanny state where government tells you what to buy, when to buy it and how much to pay for it. Seriously did you get piledriven on your head as a kid?

Just so you're aware, I've saved this entire thread to PDF. Once President Clinton and VP Pelosi are in charge, I'll be forwarding it to Homeland Security so they'll know to watch your dissident ass closely!

Why not just answer the question, if you're so for Obozocare, explain why.

Sure, right after you give specifics on which of the 23 executive actions are unconstitutional and explain specifically why.
 
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594. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 29, 2013, 00:03 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 23:24:
I love how you ignore the evidence that not only did Obama lie about people being allowed to keep their plans (fact he knew this 3 years ago to be false) but the fact that it's going to cost more, off the backs of younger folks who honestly at that age don't even need healthcare and could be better spending their money towards oh I dunno paying off their school loans, or a car, or a house. etc.

What the hell is wrong with you liberals? Do you honestly believe anyone owes you anything? Who taught you to think this way? I'd seriously like to know.

If you love socialism so much move to Canada, stop trying to redefine the US to be a god damn fucking nanny state where government tells you what to buy, when to buy it and how much to pay for it. Seriously did you get piledriven on your head as a kid?

Just so you're aware, I've saved this entire thread to PDF. Once President Clinton and VP Pelosi are in charge, I'll be forwarding it to Homeland Security so they'll know to watch your dissident ass closely!
 
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592. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 23:47 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 23:04:
You really believe millions are going to sign up. That's adorable. Have you signed up yet?
Why would I? I have pretty good insurance already.
 
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586. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 22:37 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 21:24:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 21:17:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 20:39:
I snipped the full quoted discussion because it was getting long but the last two replies are there in their entirety. Did you think you said more?

edit: I guess go look at 577 if you'd like to see how Rollin rolls.

Well, this has been hilarious, but I'm pretty much convinced that RT is either completely unhinged or a brilliant troll. I'm leaning towards the former though, because really, I can't fathom a troll that wouldn't have gotten bored with this thread long ago.

RT should probably be heavily medicated. Hopefully Obamacare will help him get the treatment he so badly needs.

cute bagger, it's collapsing on itself and I couldn't be happier, finally maybe people will start waking up about how dishonest and power hungry democrats are.

They'll work the bugs out over the next couple months. By this time next year millions will have signed up and the Tea Party will have continued to be crazy, handing some House seats back to the Dems, or at least to more moderate Republicans.

By 2016 Obamacare will be well entrenched and providing health care at least as well as Medicare does today, and nobody will want the Republicans to touch it. Ted Cruz will be the nominee ushered in by the lunatic fringe which will lead to a landslide victory for Hillary!

All because people like you, RT, are completely fucking nuts. So much so that you can't even recognize it. But others do, and they don't want to let anymore nutjobs anywhere near the government.

Enjoy the bitchslapping that reality is gonna give you in the coming years

 
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584. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 21:17 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 20:39:
I snipped the full quoted discussion because it was getting long but the last two replies are there in their entirety. Did you think you said more?

edit: I guess go look at 577 if you'd like to see how Rollin rolls.

Well, this has been hilarious, but I'm pretty much convinced that RT is either completely unhinged or a brilliant troll. I'm leaning towards the former though, because really, I can't fathom a troll that wouldn't have gotten bored with this thread long ago.

RT should probably be heavily medicated. Hopefully Obamacare will help him get the treatment he so badly needs.
 
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521. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 11:18 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 10:33:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 10:22:
You said: "He's also made reference to executive orders on the 2nd amendment which is not in his power to do."

Then you posted links to videos that specifically reference the 23 EOs that Obama laid out after Sandy Hook. It was only later that you started posted vids about other EOs.

So, yeah, you were talking about the 2nd amendment-related EOs. Would you care to retract that claim now since you can't seem to defend it?

Ahh ok, I see where the confusion is, I was referring to his comment that "I can do this via EO" not that he did. Sorry for the confusion there. However I still believe some if not all of those 23 are not legal. Especially confiscating private property, and work camps, ala fema camps which we have evidence have been popping up all over.

I've never heard as much mention of a fore coming martial law than I have in the last year or so. And I certainly wouldn't put it past him, the guy isn't genuine, it's obvious.
You keep say things like "some if not all of those 23 are illegal" but you have yet to say which ones and why. Put up or shut up.
 
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516. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 10:22 Wowbagger_TIP
 
You said: "He's also made reference to executive orders on the 2nd amendment which is not in his power to do."

Then you posted links to videos that specifically reference the 23 EOs that Obama laid out after Sandy Hook. It was only later that you started posted vids about other EOs.

So, yeah, you were talking about the 2nd amendment-related EOs. Would you care to retract that claim now since you can't seem to defend it?
 
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512. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 09:18 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 08:21:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 00:46:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 23:36:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:16:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:02:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:40:

"I'm going to make these crazy statements, but I'm much too busy to back them up with any facts..."

durpa durpa dunder...

Derpa derpa derp. Da derp derpa derpity derp. Derp derp!
At least he's confirmed once and for all that he has nothing of substance to say and is incapable of having a rational discussion.

Where in the constitution does it grant a president to make EO's like that? Point it out for me smart guy, if anything, when you read especially the 5th amendment in regards to property alone, some of those are unconstitutional. You guys are either obtuse or really love obama's cock or some shit.

If you're not going to name the specific EOs of the 23 related to the gun issue that we've been talking about, and explain exactly how those violate the constitution, then I'll just continue to believe you're still just derping along in your decidedly non-blissful ignorance. I'm not going down another rabbit hole until you show that you can conclude a discussion about a single issue.

READ THE ENTIRE LIST regardless if its about guns. JFC you are obtuse. HELLO MC FLY? ANYONE HOME IN THERE? NO?

No. You made the specific claim that "most" of the 23 EOs Obama laid out related to the gun issue were unconstitutional. I want you to back that up with specifics about which EOs violate which parts of the Constitution. If you refuse, then there's no further point in discussing anything.
 
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509. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 00:46 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 23:36:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:16:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:02:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:40:

"I'm going to make these crazy statements, but I'm much too busy to back them up with any facts..."

durpa durpa dunder...

Derpa derpa derp. Da derp derpa derpity derp. Derp derp!
At least he's confirmed once and for all that he has nothing of substance to say and is incapable of having a rational discussion.

Where in the constitution does it grant a president to make EO's like that? Point it out for me smart guy, if anything, when you read especially the 5th amendment in regards to property alone, some of those are unconstitutional. You guys are either obtuse or really love obama's cock or some shit.

If you're not going to name the specific EOs of the 23 related to the gun issue that we've been talking about, and explain exactly how those violate the constitution, then I'll just continue to believe you're still just derping along in your decidedly non-blissful ignorance. I'm not going down another rabbit hole until you show that you can conclude a discussion about a single issue.
 
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505. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 27, 2013, 21:16 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:02:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:40:

"I'm going to make these crazy statements, but I'm much too busy to back them up with any facts..."

durpa durpa dunder...

Derpa derpa derp. Da derp derpa derpity derp. Derp derp!
At least he's confirmed once and for all that he has nothing of substance to say and is incapable of having a rational discussion.
 
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502. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 27, 2013, 20:34 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 18:26:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 18:02:
So how long are you going to keep dodging my question? How do any of the 23 EOs violate the Constitution?


You've obvious never even read the contents of the Constitution, start with the first and work your way up, you'll figure it out I think.
So you can't say which one violates it, nor can you say how. So you're just full of shit and wasting my time.
 
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499. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 27, 2013, 18:02 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 17:47:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 17:18:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 16:11:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 15:15:
And it gets even better as liberal Californians who supported the law are discovering they have to pay up:
Some health insurance gets pricier as Obamacare rolls out - Many middle-class Californians with individual health plans are surprised they need policies that cover more and cost more.


Pam Kehaly, president of Anthem Blue Cross in California, said she received a recent letter from a young woman complaining about a 50% rate hike related to the healthcare law.

"She said, 'I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,'" Kehaly said.

Classic.

Notice how none of the usual suspects are defending any of this.

I'm still waiting for you to explain how any (let alone most) of the EOs violate the Constitution. I don't plan to engage on any other topics until we settle at least one. You changing the subject constantly is just tedious.

So, I'll ask once again, please do explain which EOs violate the Constitution, and how.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBj7wj0Lx7c

Since when can a president sign into order the right for the government to not only seize all means of transportation, both public and private, Since when can the government take over food production and farms? Since when can the government mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision? Either you refuse to watch the same link I've posted 5 times or you're fine with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x14IF7f3tLw

So how long are you going to keep dodging my question? How do any of the 23 EOs violate the Constitution?
 
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