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News Comments > Elite: Dangerous Refund Policy
105. Re: Elite: Dangerous Refund Policy Nov 20, 2014, 16:22 DangerDog
 
Where is the internet petition brigade when you need them?

jdreyer wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 16:21:
DangerDog wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 14:33:
I just don't believe all these sob stories about not being able to play the game with the online requirement.

Because everyone is online all the time, right Adam?

You're probably using up more bandwidth posting on blues news than you would playing Elite Dangerous solo mode.

This comment was edited on Nov 20, 2014, 16:32.
 
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News Comments > Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare 2014's "Biggest Entertainment Launch"; Series Tops $10B
20. Re: Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare 2014's Nov 20, 2014, 15:15 DangerDog
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 09:38:
hahahahaah PR machien go! Notice they didn't mention any video games. I don't think this game sold as well as any of their previous titles. The Guitar Hero effect is kicking in.

I assume the apex of the series was probably Modern Warfare 2, but even if it's flat lined - that one hell of a flat line.
 
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News Comments > Elite: Dangerous Refund Policy
81. Re: Elite: Dangerous Refund Policy Nov 20, 2014, 15:10 DangerDog
 
gilly775 wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 14:51:
Flatline wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 14:42:
Prez wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 14:16:
I think the refunds should be offered to everyone, not just people who haven't played yet. They failed to deliver on what I understand is a promised feature, and that means the ethical thing to do would be to offer everyone who wants one a refund. I played Planetary Annhilation online when it was Early Access because it was the opnly way to try out the game so I could give my feedback, but the only reason I backed it was because of the promised offline mode. I assume that would be the case with some people who were in the Beta. They are burning up a lot of their trust with gamers.

I kind of feel that kickstarters should get a refund opportunity period, since beta was free.

But if you paid a premium for the beta, which I did, that was to participate in the beta process. Even if the end product isn't something that meets it's promises, you got your beta money's worth and there's no reason why you should get that refunded.

I didn't hear about the KS until when the beta released, so when I read that the KS promised offline mode, I paid in for the PB. I bought the game mainly for offline mode since where I live in the sticks, I barely have a solid connection most of the time with the local ISP. So, yeah, I feel I was lied to knowing an offline mode was promised.

Also, I have no played the game since the end of May. One other time I tried, my inet connection went down and other, offline games took over from there. I was holding out for that offline mode to pick it up again.

I feel for you, I used to live in the sticks and the internet options sucks. But you really shouldn't have bought into a game, especially for a "premium online beta" which was intended to test "online" functionality of the game. It sounds like you can still play solo online if the 10kbps requirement holds true.
 
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News Comments > Elite: Dangerous Refund Policy
77. Re: Elite: Dangerous Refund Policy Nov 20, 2014, 14:56 DangerDog
 
Flatline wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 14:42:
Prez wrote on Nov 20, 2014, 14:16:
I think the refunds should be offered to everyone, not just people who haven't played yet. They failed to deliver on what I understand is a promised feature, and that means the ethical thing to do would be to offer everyone who wants one a refund. I played Planetary Annhilation online when it was Early Access because it was the opnly way to try out the game so I could give my feedback, but the only reason I backed it was because of the promised offline mode. I assume that would be the case with some people who were in the Beta. They are burning up a lot of their trust with gamers.

I kind of feel that kickstarters should get a refund opportunity period, since beta was free.

But if you paid a premium for the beta, which I did, that was to participate in the beta process. Even if the end product isn't something that meets it's promises, you got your beta money's worth and there's no reason why you should get that refunded.

Only to those who backed it at the 50 or above level, otherwise you had to buy in to the alpha or beta separate. You have to go up to the 90 backers before you see the "DRM Free" version listed as one of the perks, so really only at that level and above are allowed to whine about it.
 
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News Comments > Elite: Dangerous Refund Policy
66. Re: Elite: Dangerous Refund Policy Nov 20, 2014, 14:33 DangerDog
 
I just don't believe all these sob stories about not being able to play the game with the online requirement. It feels like a bunch of people that are having "buyers regret" over spending so much money on the alpha version of the game which if you did so it's because of you being inpatient. You played the alpha/beta online so your argument for needing offline is null and void - even if you can't play the game all the time you at least have proved that you can play it with the online requirement.

Now, if you were a backer and never bought into the alpha/beta I would slot you into the "pre-order" category which is entitled to a refund. I imagine though that represents a very small percent of their customers, most who backed probably bought in at the alpha or beta stages.

I still think the decision was to stop piracy, and also there is a section in the EULA that mentions the possibility for in game advertisement.

https://store.elitedangerous.com/ed-eula/

section 8.

The Game may incorporate technology (which may be provided by Frontier or third party service providers engaged by Frontier (each a "Dynamic Advertising Provider")) which enables advertising to be uploaded into the Game on your PC, and changed while the Game is being played on-line. ...

Of course the game will benefit slightly from not being as static as previous Elite games were but even if the "offline" game were just Elite II or whatever with this new engine many would have been fine with that I'm sure.

I backed it, bought the beta and I'm looking forward to seeing what else they have planned for the game post release. It's a very cool game and looks amazing. Also, there's no micro-transactions in game or out - you can buy "skins" for your ship from their online store but that's it. You're free to earn credits in game to buy and upgrade parts on your ship but not with real money, unlike what they're doing with Star Citizen. Speaking of which, the "offline" version of Star Citizen won't probably amount to more than a four hour linear game - they're focusing on the online experience too.
 
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News Comments > Morning Consolidation
22. Re: Morning Consolidation Nov 19, 2014, 15:26 DangerDog
 
GTA V: Hot Espresso  
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News Comments > Morning Consolidation
18. Re: Morning Consolidation Nov 19, 2014, 13:58 DangerDog
 
PHJF wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 12:15:
Controversial sex? What, like between a man and a horned owl?

Because that was completely consensual.

Including the axe to the head at the end of the session.

 
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News Comments > Forza Horizon 2 Listed for PC?
17. Re: Forza Horizon 2 Listed for PC? Nov 18, 2014, 17:56 DangerDog
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 18, 2014, 16:18:
DangerDog wrote on Nov 18, 2014, 16:06:
I don't think MS will allow their prized IP's to migrate from xbone to PC.

The vast majority of sales happen within the first month or two. Delay it until after that, and you can both use it as bait to sell Xbones, and make money from people like me who won't ever own an Xbone. Not doing so is leaving money on the table.

except MS uses their exclusive IP's to drum up sales for xboxes not the games themselves.
 
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News Comments > Forza Horizon 2 Listed for PC?
12. Re: Forza Horizon 2 Listed for PC? Nov 18, 2014, 16:06 DangerDog
 
I don't think MS will allow their prized IP's to migrate from xbone to PC.  
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News Comments > Morning Interviews
5. Re: Morning Interviews Nov 17, 2014, 10:50 DangerDog
 
Kajetan wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 09:42:
InBlack wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 09:16:
Chris Roberts is a smooth talker though so I don't expect any firebombs in there but Im actually eager to listen to whats said 'in-between the lines'.
Well ... errr ... *cough* just you know... there will be no SP game. Squadron 42 was cancelled last week, because our Persistent Universe is teh new shit and we want everyone hop on boord with it. You know, full blown experience and such.

20 pages by midnight, lol

I do bet they renege on modding support, too complex for most people to figure out etc.
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
186. Re: choo choo.....choo chooooooooooooooooooo Nov 17, 2014, 02:46 DangerDog
 
Fantaz wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 02:12:
if there's no storyline then there's no incentive for me to play. online games almost always never have a plot, or at least not good ones.

"We have also been able to create a connected experience which lets you play your own story whilst in a [...]"

i don't want my own story, i want to play one created by a skilled story writer. sorry, these guys don't get my money or play time.

It's a "choose your own adventure" novel, remember those? There is no scripted story in Elite, it's an open galaxy sandbox where you take on various identities based on how you play the game, Trader, Combat Pilot, Pirate, Bounty hunter etc but you don't check a box to be any of the above it's freely up to you. It's more a simulation than a game.

Elite was ahead of it's time then and it seems it still is.

 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
156. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 16, 2014, 21:08 DangerDog
 
Elite: Dangerous - In space no one can hear you scream... about DRM.  
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News Comments > Assassin's Creed Unity Patch 3 Preview & Tips
9. Re: Assassin's Creed Unity Patch 3 Preview & Tips Nov 16, 2014, 17:21 DangerDog
 
Ubisoft: 'disconnect your Internet' to fix Assassin's Creed: Unity

It's really odd that they can even make anything that looks half as good as Far Cry or Assassin's Creed with dumb shit comments like this or their "resolution doesn't matter", "30 fps is all you need" etc.
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
77. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 16, 2014, 16:33 DangerDog
 
Julio wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 16:15:
Harrowing wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 15:17:
The vast majority of serious gamers are online all the time.

Guess I'm not a "serious gamer" by that definition. Braben really should have advertised it as online required from day one. So what happens when they shut the servers down at some point?

The assets will get auctioned off and whoever buys the IP will make the decision to support the game or not.

They'll probably want to focus on the console versions of Elite Dangerous after the PC version ships - the next thing on the list is to allow you to walk around inside your ship so some of that will probably roll over to the console version. If it doesn't sell well on the PC I imagine all bets are off on seeing it reach lofty goals such as landing on planets and having any FPS type elements added to the game.
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
76. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 16, 2014, 16:21 DangerDog
 
clint wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 16:09:
Kickstarter, early access and 'paying for beta' is based on faith. The DEVs broke a promise and selling point to this game. It DOESNT matter if you can live with it or if that particular broken promise doesn't matter to you. It means another reason not to trust kickstarter/early access/paid beta. A few of these can easily destroy the whole thing. THAT should matter to you. Think beyond your own personal little 'oh i have internet, get over it' attitude and think a tid bit bigger.

Early access (really expensive alpha) and paid beta all required online connection to play, so no trust broken from that perspective.

The decision sucks but not enough to stop playing or supporting what the devs are making with Elite Dangerous.
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
58. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 16, 2014, 15:34 DangerDog
 
Rigs wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 15:26:
DangerDog wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 15:16:
Funny that you could never find a pirated copy of the alpha or beta anywhere.

There's only ONE way you could've known that and that's by looking yourself. But, yes, you are correct, there are no E:D torrents that I'm aware of and, yes, I've looked - A LOT...


=-Rigs-=

Devilish what? huh? I don't know what you're talking about.

They do have a few "offline" training missions but I guess that wasn't enough content to spend any time trying to crack the account authentication procedure.
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
42. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 16, 2014, 15:16 DangerDog
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 15:00:
DangerDog wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 14:46:
jdreyer wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 14:14:
Welp, they just lost my money. A shame, too. I was really looking forward to this.

Come on, for real? Having it be completely off-line is that big of a deal?

Yup.
1. I am often places where there is no internet connection when I play due to work.

2. I rarely play online games. I'm pretty much an SP player and have no desire to play with strangers.

We all know it's because they don't want to have their game pirated, any other excuse doesn't float because they managed to make Elite work on much less hardware in the 80's. They don't have a rich enough online tapestry to draw people into buying the game for that "whole experience".
It appears that while "protecting" themselves from lost sales due to piracy, they'll also lose sales due to this decision.

People are perfectly okay with Steam DRM but come out screaming with pitchforks when anyone else implements it.
Steam has an offline mode idiot. I can go months without connecting, and have.

Requiring an internet connection is the least of your problems if you can't afford the hardware needed to get the full experience - high end graphics card, joystick and throttle setup, head tracking device (TrackIR or FreeTrack) or a Rift VR headset even.
I have $2000 worth of hardware and a HOTAS, and will be getting OR CV1 upon it's debut. It's not a question of money. It's a question of preference.

You can still play solo mode, you obviously have an internet connection which invalidates your reason for not getting the game.

You can't tell me that you're hauling around $2000 worth of gear to play games offline, where on the planet are you going where you don't have access to internet if you have access to power?

Look, I'm not saying this "news" doesn't slot into the category of "well that sucks" but lets just be honest about what they're wanting to prevent here. Funny that you could never find a pirated copy of the alpha or beta anywhere.
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
16. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 16, 2014, 14:46 DangerDog
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 14:14:
Welp, they just lost my money. A shame, too. I was really looking forward to this.

Come on, for real? Having it be completely off-line is that big of a deal?

We all know it's because they don't want to have their game pirated, any other excuse doesn't float because they managed to make Elite work on much less hardware in the 80's. They don't have a rich enough online tapestry to draw people into buying the game for that "whole experience".

Unless they're holding back on something it's not going to be deep enough for most people today - the sandbox design is perhaps a bit dated, there's no campaign story to play - it's just you, a ship and some starter credits. The only story is the one of your experience doing stuff in the game, some argue that there's not enough "stuff" in the game. I'm not aware of any achievement type activities other than working up your status to become "Elite Dangerous". It's also not a pvp game either, there's a small amount of co-op capability.

This is an extremely niche market and will never amount to big money for them - they're not micro-transactioning people to death, you can't even buy ships with real money like you do with Star Citizen.

People are perfectly okay with Steam DRM but come out screaming with pitchforks when anyone else implements it.

I do agree that anyone who purchased or backed the game up to this point deserves a refund option if it's somehow means they can't play the game, however this doesn't mean that the game isn't worth buying and playing if you're a fan of the original Elite in any way. You can still play "solo" mode if you don't want to deal with other people in your game.

Requiring an internet connection is the least of your problems if you can't afford the hardware needed to get the full experience - high end graphics card, joystick and throttle setup, head tracking device (TrackIR or FreeTrack) or a Rift VR headset even.
 
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News Comments > Cinemaware Anthology: 1986-1991 Released
5. Re: Cinemaware Anthology: 1986-1991 Released Nov 14, 2014, 20:24 DangerDog
 
The only one I ever finished was Rocket Ranger on the Amiga.

 
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News Comments > Cinemaware Anthology: 1986-1991 Released
3. Re: Cinemaware Anthology: 1986-1991 Released Nov 14, 2014, 19:51 DangerDog
 
hmm no three stooges?  
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