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News Comments > EA's Battlefield Domain Spree
40. Re: EA's Battlefield Domain Spree May 9, 2013, 20:58 Slick
 
you seem to be hell-bent on judging cost as value, when this has never been the debate. cost is cost.

if your extraneous circumstances include something like people getting paid more today than they were 10 years ago, therefore value fluxes with time can relate to both the amount people are paid today, vs the inflated cost of goods today. well then again this only makes my point.

if people are paid 10$ an hour in 2001, and 20$ an hour in 2011, then an item with the same VALUE should actually COST twice as much. however with regards to BF games, this is not the case, as the COST has not risen one penny since the beginning of the franchise.

you want to judge based on empirical evidence accrued over 10 years of data? or based on assumptions about what will happen in the future? because assumptions about the future isn't exactly a data point.

you want to threaten me by adding me to your block list? join the club. i don't block people because i always believe in communication being able to resolve any difference, but by all means, you wouldn't be the first.

my grammar isn't up to snuff? i don't capitalize? well i guess i'm just not worth your time. if you really can't read text without a capital letter that the beginning of the sentence, then i guess you should try harder, cause i'm pretty sure you understand every word i type. next time i'll get my secretary to do a better job.

lol. nice talkin to ya.
 
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News Comments > EA's Battlefield Domain Spree
38. Re: EA's Battlefield Domain Spree May 9, 2013, 20:23 Slick
 
Redmask:

worth is different from cost. no one has ever stated that x game is worth more or less than game y.

worth is entirely subjective, and outside the realm of facts, it is pure opinion.

what the debate is about is the *cost* which is different than your perceived *worth*. because the cost can't be argued against. worth can be debated ad-nausea-um with no right or wrong answer.

saying that EA will just "keep pushing costs to the end user higher as much as they can get away with" is disingenuous. what we have seen, based on their actions over a period of 10 years, doesn't not show this correlation, in fact it shows the opposite.

the cost was $110, $110, and $110 over a period of 10 years. the content with game modes, maps, and guns has gone up. taking inflation into account the cost to me, the gamer, the person purchasing the software has gone down, while the amount of content has gone up.

this is the issue. not weather you as a gamer feel that BF1942 had more "value" for you as a gamer. that isn't an argument based on facts, that's subjective opinion. i could list things which i think 1942 did better, and things which bf3 did better. when it comes to raw numbers however, there are no patterns of which you describe.
 
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News Comments > EA's Battlefield Domain Spree
37. Re: EA's Battlefield Domain Spree May 9, 2013, 19:59 Slick
 
Blue wrote on May 9, 2013, 14:59:
Slick wrote on May 9, 2013, 14:20:
Blue, my "mastery of facts" involve a tiny amount of journalistic assertion, and fact-checking, rare these days i know. you run a website focused on journalism. I'd think that you would be pro journalism, and not insinuating that i'm trying to be a "mind-reader", for looking up facts instead of spouting opinion disguised as facts. come on dude.

I don't think you follow my point. You can disagree with someone without calling them a liar, much less repeatedly. The mind reader comment was simply to say that no one needs you parsing who is lying versus who is mistaken versus who is simply disagreeing with your opinion.

This has nothing to do with journalism, this has to do with courtesy. Read forum rule #1.

i believe this has everything to do with journalism. that is the core message of this thread which has been largely ignored. however you do make a good point that someone being mistaken versus someone spreading lies are two different things. This i fully take ownership of, and don't mean any disrespect.

I've been wrong before posting in these forums, and i took ownership of it. everybody makes mistakes. but one does not make a mistake over and over when presented with truth, and in-fact fight back against reason with false facts. this is ignorance, and spreading it is dangerous.

being presented with facts over and over, having people not only ignore them, but openly say that they're untrue, is disingenuous at best, and purposeful lying at worst. there's no way around that, that's the dictionary definition, weather it be "too real" or not for people to hear. this is not a casual mistake which everyone makes, it's purposefully trying to spread untruth.

being mistaken vs lying i fully understand. however you lose me when you further compare it to someone "disagreeing with my opinion".

the only opinion that i've stated in this thread is that facts should be researched and presented in a journalistic fashion. I've shown repeatedly that this is not at all "my opinion" but instead cold, hard, numbers. irrefutable facts are not opinion.

I could have an opinion that the sun revolves around the earth, and not vice-versa. however this would be false. weather as a free man i'm allowed to express that the sun revolves around the earth is a different matter. I would argue that this opinion is protected speech, but so is the factual evidence presented in opposition to prove that this is false.

opinions are fully protected speech, however they're not always factually correct. I could be of the opinion that the holocaust never happened, however i should be rightly be proven wrong by my peers. masquerading opinion as fact is the opposite of journalism, it's editorializing, and it's the worst kind when in the face of irrefutable evidence to the contrary, someone is still pushing the falsehood, and ridiculing the truth. this is dangerous behavior, and sets a bad precedent.

i am grateful that we live in a world which reasonable discourse can still exist, but this is not what happens when 1 man says 2+2=4, and everyone else says 2+2=5, and the 2+2=4 guy is ostracized for his "opinions".

anyone care to actually address the facts that i've presented? or continue to attack me personally?
 
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News Comments > Battlefield 3 DoS Attack
9. Re: Battlefield 3 DoS Attack May 9, 2013, 14:23 Slick
 
TurdFergasun wrote on May 9, 2013, 14:11:
this must be one of EA's added value decisions like centralizing all servers so that it's much easier for DDOS attacks to be effective. Good work EA on stopping all that hacking too, since having control over the hosting has stopped that completely as well. Whats your share price again?

there has always been a "master server"... that's nothing new.
 
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News Comments > EA's Battlefield Domain Spree
30. Re: EA's Battlefield Domain Spree May 9, 2013, 14:20 Slick
 
Blue wrote on May 9, 2013, 06:35:
You probably can't win, but you're obviously trying. Speaking of which, I'm going to ask you to stop calling anyone who disagrees with you a liar. Your mastery of facts does not cover mind-reading.

nice, now Blue is apart of my fanclub.

so when people say innacurate things based on opinion, leaving raw journalistic data out of the equation. should i say that they're...ummm.... bearing false witness? would that be more appropriate?

RedMask: "EA prices its products according to what it can get away with and they are essentially going to continue raising the price over time"

BF games getting more expensive each time = false, innacurate, not based in reality.

ASeven: "May I remind the disingenuous that past Battlefield expansion packs actually included a lot more than 4 maps and some silly achievements and a couple of weapons and vehicles"

previous xpacks giving more maps and guns than BF3 = false, innacurate, not based in reality.

as Dan Savage says, opinions are like assholes everyone's got one. But when you're discussing numbers, data, irrefutible facts. then there is no opinion. posing opinion as fact is disingenuous.

and i like how my self-depricating comments on how some users on here feel the need to tell everyone that i'm on their ignore list, ends up with "i'm obviously trying".

seriously Blue, i'm "trying" to have journalistic integrity, false information posed as truth is dangerous for random readers who don't know. and calling bearers of false witness on their opinions which are devoid of factual content should be applauded instead of condemned. This is pushing against the tide on here i know. As Trevellian correctly points out, i should take more time bashing EA and keeping all logic, numbers and facts to myself if i want to "make any friends".

Doesn't mean that this board gets to be a one-sided circle jerk of incorrect information. I've been very careful to not include any name-calling adjectives like "stupid" "dumb" "moron" etc. which other users don't share the same courtesy. But i will not let bearers of false witness dominate the conversation without someone defending the truth. NOTE* not my opinion. i'm talking about the truth, which is viewable for the public record, NOT MY OPINION, anyone is free to look this up.

FACT 1)

BF1942 + xpacks = $110 USD
BF2 + xpacks = $110 USD
BF3 + xpacks = $110 USD

FACT 2)

BF3 has more guns and maps in their xpacks than either BF2 or BF1942

FACT 3)

What cost $110 in 2001 would cost $139.63 in 2011.

Blue, my "mastery of facts" involve a tiny amount of journalistic assertion, and fact-checking, rare these days i know. you run a website focused on journalism. I'd think that you would be pro journalism, and not insinuating that i'm trying to be a "mind-reader", for looking up facts instead of spouting opinion disguised as facts. come on dude.

 
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News Comments > Battlefield 3 DoS Attack
7. Re: Battlefield 3 DoS Attack May 9, 2013, 13:51 Slick
 
i heard that it's partly due to a recent ban wave that went out a week ago, and that these are mostly disgruntled hackers getting butthurt that their accounts are wiped/frozen.

DoS attacks suck, (i can't play/don't like the game so nobody else should be able to play the game either)... what are these people, 6 years old?
 
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News Comments > EA's Battlefield Domain Spree
26. Re: EA's Battlefield Domain Spree May 9, 2013, 01:30 Slick
 
Fantaz wrote on May 9, 2013, 01:13:
Who is this Slick user who's been making most of his posts from his account in this comments thread here?

a long-time reader, short time poster. also, there's this thing about lies which just gets under my skin, and i feel compelled. what can i say?

*Also feel free to join the ever increasing ranks of the official BluesNews Slick Fanclub. with my 148 posts i've generated more hate on here than i think anyone else, i'm going for the high score.

This comment was edited on May 9, 2013, 02:20.
 
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News Comments > EA's Battlefield Domain Spree
24. Re: EA's Battlefield Domain Spree May 9, 2013, 00:52 Slick
 
if there's one thing this thread (and certain blues posters in particular) has done to make my day a bit brighter, is that they've reminded me of a great book i read years ago:

Lies, and the Lying Liars who tell them - Al Franken

listen to just the introduction (audiobook) and try not to have a smile from ear to ear.

http://www61.zippyshare.com/v/14035083/file.html

sigh, i'm kind of sad that he's a senator now because he's not writing these epic def jam slams anymore.
 
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News Comments > EA's Battlefield Domain Spree
23. Re: EA's Battlefield Domain Spree May 8, 2013, 23:59 Slick
 
Trevellian wrote on May 8, 2013, 23:53:
I told you, your facts and math offend the average user. You need to spit more vile hatred towards EA if you want to be liked. You're doing it wrong man.

<3

[url=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG7LjVCj50Y[/url]
 
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News Comments > EA's Battlefield Domain Spree
21. Re: EA's Battlefield Domain Spree May 8, 2013, 23:40 Slick
 
Redmask...

so i guess i misread this: "The price argument also ignores several important factors like the quality of the content provided for the money"?

that wouldn't fall into the category of your opinion would it?

and your argument that be cause more people buy BF games now somehow changes raw numbers is just silly.

$110 is $110 is $110.

you can't argue with math. there is no argument.

Inflation means that $110 in 2001 is worth more than $110 in 2011. you also cannot argue with this.

you don't have an argument, but have spent many words illustrating this... you seem to be fixated on this idea that since more people buy a game, it should be cheaper? (well as i've already shown with simple logic, $110 in 2011 IS CHEAPER than $110 in 2001) So i guess the more popular something is, the less it should cost? is this your reasoning? cause i have a bitter pill you need to swallow about reality...

you say: "EA prices its products according to what it can get away with and they are essentially going to continue raising the price over time and iterating more often."

what are you talking about??? i've shown you multiple times that OBJECTIVELY BF games have gotten CHEAPER FOR THE END USER since 2001. and yet you choose to ignore this, and instead spew the exact opposite like it's truth.

STOP LYING.
 
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News Comments > Diablo III Economy Follow-up
6. Re: Diablo III Economy Follow-up May 8, 2013, 22:58 Slick
 
Cyanotetyphas wrote on May 8, 2013, 22:32:
Should have used a bitcoin standard

litecoin's the future

also. the fact that this whole issue isn't cut and dry "we're rolling everyone back to pre-patch" is just ludicrous. i'm sure it'll be a headache, but that's what you get for not doing enough QA.

the fact that this is still "up in the air" isn't surprizing however... how long did it take them to address legendary weapons having worse stats than ultra-common grey drops?

"well, you know, we're not sure what we're gonna do about that, but we'll write lots about it in our blogs so that the community knows we care deeply and are truely invested in the gamers experience"

meanwhile they're all sitting around the boardroom table getting nothing done, pushing shit around the room like a dung-beetle.

GREAT MEETING GUYS! LET'S GET BACK TO THIS NEXT WEEK.
 
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News Comments > Activision Blizzard Results, More WoW Subs Lost
13. Re: Activision Blizzard Results, More WoW Subs Lost May 8, 2013, 22:52 Slick
 
Blackhawk wrote on May 8, 2013, 22:47:
Oh, Blizzard has always known they'd lose subscriptions eventually, and they planned around it. They aren't 'crashing', they're on the downhill end of the curve that they've been working around for years.

this.
 
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News Comments > EA 10% Layoff Report Confirmed
6. Re: EA 10% Layoff Report Confirmed May 8, 2013, 22:50 Slick
 
Ravor wrote on May 8, 2013, 22:30:
It's too bad they have to fire 900 people when they could just fire one or 2 execs instead to come up with that same wage value..

http://www.forbes.com/profile/john-riccitiello/

numbers are your friend.

900 employees @ 50,000 a year is 45,000,000$. which is equivalent to 9 CEOS with all of their bonuses and stock options. an "exec" i can't see making more than 150,000-300,000 a year all in. This would be like 900 employees = 300-150 execs.

so yes, lots of hyperbole, but i get your sentiment. it's obvious that the decision makers's heads need to roll, not the drones, but welcome to the corporate world. you think this is solely relegated to EA? lol.
 
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News Comments > EA's Battlefield Domain Spree
18. Re: EA's Battlefield Domain Spree May 8, 2013, 22:37 Slick
 
Redmask wrote on May 8, 2013, 22:03:
Slick wrote on May 8, 2013, 19:39:
i guess i shouldn't even mention that with inflation over the last 10 years, BF games and all xpacks have technically gotten cheaper. but who trusts math? it's all cold hard fact, no heart.

The inflation argument is stupid because it ignores the fact that the size of the market increased so drastically that it allowed them to maintain that price point and make more money doing so. You can't make money if you price yourself out of reach for consumers, there is no 'bargain' in it for consumers, it's simple business. The whole 'adjusted for inflation' is a crutch that weak arguments rely on.

The price argument also ignores several important factors like the quality of the content provided for the money, the time and manner it was delivered and so forth. Your so called facts are presented in a one sided manner to further a personal agenda without examination of other important considersations and thus are worthless.

this is too easy... you guys need to give me a challenge *sigh*

so my price argument is based on numbers, cold hard data points. you disagree with this, because in your opinion the "quality of the content" isn't up to your expectations. that's not a fact, that's called your opinion.

fact = numbers. ie. $110 for 1942, BF2, and BF3 with all xpacks. Inflation means that the same value would be represented as a bigger figure in 2011 than it was in 2001.

Lie posing as fact = $110 USD in 2001 is OBJECTIVELY worth LESS than $110 USD in 2011.

opinion = MORE xpack content from BF3 is actually LESS because i felt the quality was poor.

dissenting opinion = did ANY of you actually PLAY BF2 or 1942? there was a reason they were nicknamed "betafield". Gamers have no memory, and make shit up to suit their own ends, then attack others for these same shady tactics. I swear some of you work at the Ministry of Truth or Fox News.
 
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News Comments > EA's Battlefield Domain Spree
17. Re: EA's Battlefield Domain Spree May 8, 2013, 22:27 Slick
 
ASeven wrote on May 8, 2013, 20:14:
May I remind the disingenuous that past Battlefield expansion packs actually included a lot more than 4 maps and some silly achievements and a couple of weapons and vehicles, with said vehicles being able to be used in all maps instead of only a select few? And that those expansion packs brought enough content to justify the pricetag, unlike, say, BF3's DLCs?

It's easy to talk about facts when selectively choosing only the ones to fit your views.

Lying Liar.

such disinformation you try and spread, facts aren't your friend are they? oh wait let me guess, you've never played bf1942 and their xpacks, or bf2 and their xpacks. but i bet that won't stop you from spreading lies like they're true, amirite?


20 xpack maps for BF3 = most. (14 for 1942, 12 for BF2)

http://ca.ign.com/wikis/battlefield-3/Multiplayer_Maps

55 stock weapons, 21 xpack weapons for BF3 = most.

http://ca.ign.com/wikis/battlefield-3/Weapons_&_Gadgets


it is easy to talk about facts actually. even when you make it look hard. It's funny how every one of your brooding childish posts trying to attack me only reveal your own ignorance. you should probably have just PMed me it, instead of showing the whole board you really don't know what you're talking about...
 
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News Comments > EA's Battlefield Domain Spree
12. Re: EA's Battlefield Domain Spree May 8, 2013, 19:39 Slick
 
Trevellian wrote on May 8, 2013, 19:20:
Slick wrote on May 8, 2013, 13:59:
love noobs qqing bout premium... sigh

bf 1942 and all xpacks = 110$

bf2 and all xpacks = 110$

bf3 and all xpacks = 110$

noobs who dont know their history are ruining gaming

This is Bluesnews. Take your math, and facts elsewhere.

HA! i didn't know Stephen Colbert posted on here!

i forget from time to time that this place is a no-fact zone.

i guess i shouldn't even mention that with inflation over the last 10 years, BF games and all xpacks have technically gotten cheaper. but who trusts math? it's all cold hard fact, no heart.
 
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News Comments > EA's Battlefield Domain Spree
7. Re: EA's Battlefield Domain Spree May 8, 2013, 13:59 Slick
 
love noobs qqing bout premium... sigh

bf 1942 and all xpacks = 110$

bf2 and all xpacks = 110$

bf3 and all xpacks = 110$

noobs who dont know their history are ruining gaming
 
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News Comments > EA Dropping Licensed Firearms
23. Re: EA Dropping Licensed Firearms May 8, 2013, 00:45 Slick
 
Teddy wrote on May 8, 2013, 00:38:
Slick wrote on May 8, 2013, 00:12:
everything you've ever seem in a tv show, movie, or any other visual medium are usually real-life products. you don't re-imagine every piece of furniture in a living room TV set because you don't want to license from lay-z-boy. costs of production would skyrocket if you had to re-invent anything seen into a fake-brandless non-existant item.

It goes the other way around in movies, actually. Companies pay veritable fortunes to movie studios to have their products used in movies and TV shows, as opposed to their competitors. Think Audi and Converse in "I, Robot". That's just an example of the more obvious ones.

Morgan Spurlock made a documentary talking about this exact subject, called "The Greatest Movie Ever Sold".

yes, this is true but not always the standard. producers will always try to drum up a bidding war over advertising rights to off-set production costs, but these contracts usually include very blatant product placement, with brand logos very visible.

my point was that even if the brand name isn't visible, you can recognize that the mechanic is using some particular power drill in his garage in that one scene, cause you've seen that drill in real life before. this isn't indicative that rights were paid to black and decker, unless that name is prominently displayed, even for only 1 shot.

but i understand your point, this whole thing is pretty retarded.
 
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News Comments > EA Dropping Licensed Firearms
21. Re: EA Dropping Licensed Firearms May 8, 2013, 00:42 Slick
 
Creston wrote on May 8, 2013, 00:24:
mag wrote on May 8, 2013, 00:12:
For a related reason, games that feature licensed cars tend to (or at least used to) not feature visible vehicle damage.

That's actually a requirement of the license? That's just absolutely fucking retarded.

Creston

Dirt 3 has procedural damage and real cars, no?
 
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News Comments > EA Financials
10. Re: EA Financials May 8, 2013, 00:32 Slick
 
those simcity sales figures are pretty low imo. tomb raider sold 4 million and they were complaining that it didn't meet expectations. for a maxis game they squandered a shit ton of revenue with the fucked up execution of simcity. look at how many titles the sims have sold. let alone the profits from all the xpacks/dlc.

and the sports franchises i'll never understand. how you go to a walmart in the USA and they're always sold out of Madden. i'll never understand those people, but apparently EA does? just seems like the same schlock as Activision pushing out a new garbage CoD title every year and it making fortunes.
 
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