Paketep wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 20:45:
So, for Jay Wilson "fuck that loser" is "defending his team".

No wonder Diablo 3 ended up being a DRM'ed piece of shit with a lead like that.

Beamer wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 10:35:
I played a ton of Destruction Derby and Destruction Derby 2 on the PC.

Man, the DD levels of Flat-Out weren't half as good.

1badmf wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 14:00:

RailWizard wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 13:02:

Ratty wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 10:58:
Wasn't there an episode of House where they finally figured out why someone was dying and it turned out to be they'd broken their big toe and there was a clot or something? Don't mean to alarm, I'm just sayin ...

I think it was gangrene. Or no...it was the marrow leaking out into the blood stream. Ok I forget. I like House a lot tho. He's a lot like me.

it was the episode with Mira Sorvino stuck in antarctica and the team had to do a tele-diagnosis. house talked her into taking her clothes off on cam for science! and diagnosis, and found something before he got to her feet which was where the break was. the cold numbed the pain so she had no idea it was there. yes that was all from memory =P

Ratty wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 10:58:
Wasn't there an episode of House where they finally figured out why someone was dying and it turned out to be they'd broken their big toe and there was a clot or something? Don't mean to alarm, I'm just sayin ...

Beamer wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:50:
Jesus, dude, use Google if you don't know. They're French. Specifically European France, which is basically not at all the US...

Beamer wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:38:

RailWizard wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:26:

Beamer wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:23:

Verno wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:21:

spacecadet wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:01:
As someone who works in the gaming industry I have to say his numbers look about right. Once you start considering countries like China and Brazil the piracy rates shoot through the roof. The entire comment is about those countries, but everyone here takes it as an attack on western gamers, that is funny in so many ways.

Western gamers are directly affected so of course we weigh in, I'm not sure why that is funny.

It's not funny that we weigh in, it's funny that we think we're the entire world.

And while I get that we're not, we've very specific in our gaming. Sony has found that out now that Microsoft is dominating the US - Western gamers like a certain type of game. Chinese gamers like a different game.
Anyone trying to cater to both will get burned very badly.

No what's funny is UBI expects the ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD to play by their rules. Gee I wonder where they got that idea from....

<cue music> http://www.youtube.com/embed/ce8CgJRkr_I (i know it's removed, it fits.)

Hey... buddy... do you think "Yves Guillemot" is an American executive?
Helpful hint: Ubisoft isn't an American company.
Other helpful hint: even in China people are expected to pay for what they use.

PropheT wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:32:
The important part of all of this is that if the publishers think they're losing that amount of sales to piracy, then piracy is as big of a problem as they say it is. They're the ones sending the content out, they're the ones controlling if they even make the games to distribute on PC in the first place; if they don't feel they'll make a return on investment whether due to actual piracy or perceived piracy the end result for us is the same.

I've been working in IT for about 15 years now, and anyone who does knows that piracy is rampant among that crowd of people. 90%+ is not hard to believe, at least among IT workers (who are almost always gamers to some degree)...I'm the -only- gamer in any of the groups I've been with over the last ten years that buys all the games I play. It has always baffled me how obstinately opposed gaming forums always seem to be that piracy is a real problem for not just the guys making money off of the games but for PC gamers as a result.

It doesn't even matter if they're really losing sales for each pirated copy, as long as piracy is seen as the problem it is by the publishers we're getting the console scraps, MMO's, or free to play games because anything else is too much of a risk.

Beamer wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:23:

Verno wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:21:

spacecadet wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:01:
As someone who works in the gaming industry I have to say his numbers look about right. Once you start considering countries like China and Brazil the piracy rates shoot through the roof. The entire comment is about those countries, but everyone here takes it as an attack on western gamers, that is funny in so many ways.

Western gamers are directly affected so of course we weigh in, I'm not sure why that is funny.

It's not funny that we weigh in, it's funny that we think we're the entire world.

And while I get that we're not, we've very specific in our gaming. Sony has found that out now that Microsoft is dominating the US - Western gamers like a certain type of game. Chinese gamers like a different game.
Anyone trying to cater to both will get burned very badly.

Beamer wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:18:

RailWizard wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:10:

Beamer wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 10:46:

No one said anything about pirating f2p games...

Well it's kind of hard to tell...so much bullshit spewing out between every word and all...

Never, ever criticize any one else's comprehension. It's extremely clear he's saying f2p is a way to fight piracy by accepting it, not that it is piracy.

Furthermore, he mentions reaching countries where they couldn't previously get revenues, as no one purchased the products despite playing the products. Clearly not the Western world.




It's like some of you (RailWizard) just see a publisher saying something and your brains turn off. Honestly, if you take what Blue quoted, and read it, not a single bit of it fails to make sense.
1) They want to do more in the PC market
2) They feel F2P is the way to do this
3) There are many countries out there that play video games without paying for them
4) F2P will help solve this. The same amount of people will be playing for free, anyway
5) There's a longer tail on F2P, so products get supported longer and get content longer


None of this can be disputed much. What can be disputed is if this is the right plan of attack, or whether it's good for the people that do play. Honestly, my opinion is always "screw piracy," as most western pirates tend to be big buyers, anyway, and most non-western pirates can't afford to buy. Play with pricing, but going f2p means changing the entire way a game is played, which is bad.
Cater to those that buy, not those that don't.

spacecadet wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 12:01:
As someone who works in the gaming industry I have to say his numbers look about right. Once you start considering countries like China and Brazil the piracy rates shoot through the roof. The entire comment is about those countries, but everyone here takes it as an attack on western gamers, that is funny in so many ways.

Beamer wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 10:46:

No one said anything about pirating f2p games...

Ledge wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 01:40:
hope all is ok blue.

Cutter wrote on Aug 21, 2012, 16:07:
I understand that most people can't cope with the reality that were are ultimately alone in the universe. They need religion the way a drowning man needs a lifejacket. That most of them would either give up and live in complete despair or go mad. Most people live in such shitty circumstances around the world they need the narcotic effect of religion. However, religion is all the major set of chains that has kept mankind enslaved to its own misery. Willing to forgo demanding equality and a better life here and now they trade it in for some mythical eternal paradise later. In other words, they're suckers.

Are their other forms of life in the universe? Obviously? Higher orders of life? Certainly? An all powerful, all knowing, all seeing deity? Doubtful. And even if there were it wouldn't be anymore interested in us than we are with the germs on a countertop. Does something happen when we die? I believe so. Nothing like any of the religions would have you believe, but something. I've always found it amazing that all the atoms in your body are replaced several times over throughout your life yet the essence of you remains. Trip balls.

HorrorScope wrote on Aug 21, 2012, 21:22:

Cutter wrote on Aug 21, 2012, 13:49:

Nucas wrote on Aug 21, 2012, 12:50:
i don't see anything wrong with disdaining the game you've been forced to play.

these patent lawsuits are so ridiculous and literally out of control i don't see how the current system can be allowed to stand. but knowing america, i'm sure we'll instead simply find a way to make it workable and let the industry stagnate as a result.

Look at how many effing politicians are effing lawyers. They don't want it to change because this is how they get rich. They could care less if it's bad for everyone and everything else so long as they get theirs. This is the major problem overall in America.

Lincoln:

“We may congratulate ourselves that this cruel war is nearing its end. It has cost a vast amount of treasure and blood … It has indeed been a trying hour for the Republic; but I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless.”

UttiniDaKilrJawa wrote on Aug 22, 2012, 02:32:
Just tried it again. Crashed out and dc'd under 3 minutes.

Uninstalled.

Blizzard really f'd that game up.

deqer wrote on Aug 21, 2012, 17:23:

RailWizard wrote on Aug 21, 2012, 15:20:

SpectralMeat wrote on Aug 21, 2012, 14:56:
Is there still option to play with bots, like it was in the previous game? I didn't mind playing against bots offline every now and then.

There is bots. There is even a training course. It is still CS with it's 10+ year old game play tho.

"tho" ? What? You wanted something different after 10 years, it sounds like? lol

How old is the language, English? Should we bring on a new language because English is old?

SpectralMeat wrote on Aug 21, 2012, 14:56:
Is there still option to play with bots, like it was in the previous game? I didn't mind playing against bots offline every now and then.