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Signed On Feb 24, 2011, 19:58
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News Comments > Bethesda on Paid Skyrim Mods
19. Re: Bethesda on Paid Skyrim Mods Apr 27, 2015, 19:48 descender
 
NKD, the models aren't different. The modders (artists) want to sell their content (music) in Steams (label) market... that's exactly what I described and exactly why the cut's those type of artists should be relevant (at least in regards to Valve's cut I suppose). Content distribution, marketing and advertising... those are the things the label (Steam) takes money from the artist (modder) for. Calling the bandwidth costs "background noise" is just trying to handwave away factors that are actually important. One of the modders in another thread was talking about more than 6GB per month of downloads through the Nexus, that's not cheap and the audience and possible number of downloaders on Steam is 100000x what the Nexus offers.

I do agree, the Bethesda cut is high... I would have expected the Valve cut to be higher though, or that it at least be 50/50 between them.

I still think that anyone complaining about the 25% is absolutely nuts. Is it low? Sure. Is it the worst deal ever? No, of course not. Yesterday you were making pennies, now you are making .25 on the dollar over thousands of sales with millions of potential customers. They should just take what they can get and worry about getting a better deal later when they can get organized (modders unions?).

Obviously Valve/Bethesda have backpedaled on this now and rightfully so. Dropping this into the middle of an existing mod community and allowing modders to charge for existing mods was a recipe for disaster. They should have waited until they had a new 3rd party game to launch with this modder payment plan or at least forced them to produce new content to charge for. Then they could have slowly rolled it back into existing markets like Skyrim rather than let the modders make fools of themselves in the eyes of the community.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
28. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 27, 2015, 19:30 descender
 
I see no reason to pretend there were no presidents before 2008. You can if you wish. You can't actually be so naive to think that Obama has really been the "worst president ever", there are so many ways that is so very obviously not true... so this must just be an act for attention. Nixon got impeached and quit. We are still paying for and will probably never know the true depth and extent of W's failures both at home and in the middle east... multi-trillion dollar failed wars, economic collapses and the fact that he's wanted for war crimes in multiple countries is probably a good start. Carter sat under 20% inflation... everyone is guilty. Those are just the ones I've lived through, I'm sure if we cracked out a few books we can find a few reasons why every president was "the worst one yet".

Obama is, unfortunately, just another in a long line of depressing and disappointing presidents that have moved this country in the wrong directions for decades. They all suck right now, they all take money, they all lie, they all do horrible things... pretending that one side is really worse than the other with the level of information that is available about everyone just makes you a troll.

Try not to fall so easily for this "us vs them" nonsense. You peddle it around here constantly (and I'm guilty, we all are... although I do think it must be a general mindset thing with you based on the way you can't seem to accept that games like D3 and PoE can exist in the same world, but I digress). "Everything liberal is bad" is a ridiculously stupid mentality, just as thinking the opposite is equally narrow minded and wrong. The truth lies far, far away from those extremes. That's exactly the game politicians are trying to get you to play, we bicker with each other over literally nothing so we aren't paying attention to what they are doing.
 
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News Comments > Bethesda on Paid Skyrim Mods
2. Re: Bethesda on Paid Skyrim Mods Apr 27, 2015, 18:57 descender
 
Musicians get 8%. Actors get 10-15% at best. Why do we think the modders with no power and no voice will get a better deal?

One could also argue that Steam is taking a smaller cut than they deserve for the potential bandwidth costs of hosting of a popular mod. I can understand the gripes with the 66% that Bethesda is taking. That does seem like... a lot... but I don't get the gripe that the modder's 25% is unfair in any way. 25% is a lot more than 0%.

Would they prefer it go back to 0%? Or should they take what they can get now and bargain for a better deal later? (obviously the latter)
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
21. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 27, 2015, 16:44 descender
 
You only have to get to the 3rd page of the poll to see that the entire thing is split nearly straight down the racial lines though. Basically the same 33% that voted Obama the worst voted Reagan the best in this poll. As the breakdown moves along the line in the different questions, you can see a clear and severe discrepancy between the "white with no degree" poll numbers and basically every other breakdown.

I really thought I nailed it on the head earlier with the obvious reason why Obama would "lose" a poll like that... before Axis derailed it for like... no reason.

Obama is the focal point of republican hatred, so he gets every single "vote against". The republican "worst president" votes get distributed between Bush and Nixon.

Another fun breakdown from that "poll".
Dem: 47%
Rep: 49%

Actually split pretty evenly, which only amplifies how much Obama is "singled out" by republicans. Surprisingly (or maybe not surprisingly I can't decide) Bush + Nixon and Obama + Carter get the same 41% of the "worst" vote.

 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
19. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 27, 2015, 16:24 descender
 
I know I shouldn't Verno... in this case they are clearly demonstrating their ability to be both of those things though.

I actually wouldn't even mind Axis doing it, everyone can poke fun here and there... what's the point of posting if we can't? It's the complete lack of other substance in his responses that I despise.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
18. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 27, 2015, 16:21 descender
 
MORE hilarity from your "poll". Wht 73% / Blk 13% / Hsp 7%

That's the demographic breakdown from the front page of the actual poll (which I'm certain you didn't bother looking at). Here's the actual poll if anyone else is interested what it actually says beyond that Washington Times Headline.

Gee, I wonder what other possible reasons there could be for Obama being at the top of the list? /smh
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
16. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 27, 2015, 16:02 descender
 
You are a sad little man, Axis. I always try to discuss the topics at hand, then you try to attack every single person that disagrees with you. Brilliant.

I don't want your respect, nor do I care who has it. You seem to have absolutely no idea what you sound like on these message boards.

More hilarity from your stupid poll. Obama was also rated at the 4th "best" president" in that same exact poll. NICE! This is how blindly you copy/paste things in here... and you blame me for not having an original opinion? HAHAHAHA.

I didn't link the stupid thing, you did.... don't get all huffy and puffy with me because of it.

You just tuck your head back down in the sand where you like it and don't listen to anything anyone else says. I'm not posting for your benefit, I'm posting so no one accidentally believes your stupidity. Talk about think before you write, are you fucking serious? Learn to take your own advice.

If you don't like what I have to say you can ignore me. If you don't like what I have to say you can respond to it with facts of your own like I do. What you can't do is act like a child and throw a temper tantrum like this every time someone disagrees with you... who do you honestly think you are fooling by "pretending" like I'm the problem poster here?

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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
14. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 27, 2015, 15:51 descender
 
Are you so far beyond rational thought that you can't post anything other than "hurpeedurp liberal hurpeedurp"?

I'm sorry I shattered the bullshit poll you posted with facts. Wait, no I'm not! Any time we can annihilate your disinformation agenda, it's a good day Axis.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
12. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 27, 2015, 15:46 descender
 
LOL that poll is hilariously misleading. It is absolutely no surprise that you linked to it.

What really drives this particular poll into the dirt is that Republicans are much more unified in their dislike of Obama than Democrats are in their dislike of any particular GOP president. Mostly because they are racist morons.

Unfortunately George W and Nixon (you know, the one that got kicked out of office) equally split the "worst president ever" votes by people with unbiased brains, so they are unlikely to actually ever win "worst president ever". There is no "public enemy #2" democratic president to split the racist anti-Obama contingent (until Hillary get's elected anyway).

Convenient :p
 
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News Comments > On Sale
13. Re: On Sale Apr 27, 2015, 14:07 descender
 
Thief 2 had a better engine and graphics (16-bit vs 8-bit)

Haha, your generation is so cute.
 
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News Comments > Steam Launches Paid Mod Support
126. Re: Steam Launches Paid Mod Support Apr 26, 2015, 12:03 descender
 
but the cut that I've heard Valve gets here is unacceptable

Yeah well, don't believe everything you read here.

Valve takes their regular cut that they take on every transaction. Bethesda is taking 66% of the money, be mad at them.

I still don't care for this argument. Artists don't get 25% of their revenues in literally any other market, music TV, movies... not a single one of those "artists" makes 25% of their gross revenues.
 
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News Comments > etc.
27. Re: etc. Apr 26, 2015, 11:58 descender
 
If Valve had put a donate button instead of a buy button I would be totally for it but the way this has been implemented is the worst way it could have been.

Why do people keep saying this? The modders CAN actually DO this but they are choosing not to.

Valve didn't put anything anywhere. They allowed the modders to reveal themselves for the greedy fucks that they are, and they jumped through that hoop feet first.
 
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News Comments > etc.
8. Re: etc. Apr 24, 2015, 19:49 descender
 
Of course they are defensive, no one is thinking or acting in any rational way. Far easier to just shut it down until the smoke blows over. I hope they didn't expect a different response though... this seems to be the pretty obvious knee-jerk reaction.

They should have frozen the workshop, and anyone that had a mod downloaded could keep it in it's current state. They only should have allowed modders to charge for new and updated mods from today going forward.

I still think you are all mad at the wrong people. Valve simply opened a door and these modders sprinted straight through it.
 
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News Comments > Morning Mobilization
4. Re: Morning Mobilization Apr 24, 2015, 15:35 descender
 
What's more convenient and easily accessible than a wearable on your wrist though?

I think they are merely overselling the feature sets of these things. I want to be able to check the time and see my messages without taking my phone out of my pocket/bag. Simple. I don't need a mic or camera or wifi or a touchscreen or even the ability to respond or interact in any way. I just don't want to have to take my phone out every time.

It should cost me all of $50 for a screen with a bluetooth receiver, instead we get these stupidly overpriced things.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
14. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 24, 2015, 14:00 descender
 
Well I just don't understand what your "context" is then. I've been trying to figure it out this whole time in case you haven't noticed. You keep moving the goalposts of what we are talking about here though, this started out by you improperly defining both socialism and capitalism.

Quick recap of what I think I thought about this thread. Corporate welfare and "corporate socialism" <sic> are not the same thing. Capitalism has nothing to do with being backed by capital, nor does it have anything to do with either collectivism or democracy. Corporations acting within a capitalist economy don't turn it into a different type of economy. Corporations can take over and control a system of government and "fix" the economy in their favor through exertion of power and money, but that doesn't redefine the economic system... it's a result of capitalism allowing it to happen.

Trying to define "Left or Right wing socialism" is quite an absurd concept that only belies understanding what socialism actually means. I think the word you mean to use here is "welfare". left wing welfare tends to help the people, right wing welfare tends to help corporations.

I don't want any more context, I think I just want to ramble. :p I appreciate the chat, regardless of if we got anywhere. It so often devolves into poop-slinging and this was a nice break from that.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
12. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 24, 2015, 13:38 descender
 
Well you can't just throw the words collectivism, corporatism and socialism into a blender and hope for the best pal. It's slightly more complex than you are letting on.  
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News Comments > Skyrim Free Weekend
24. Re: Skyrim Free Weekend Apr 24, 2015, 13:37 descender
 
How do you decide how much each job is worth and track the hours people worked to figure out what % of sales each person should receive?

Those are probably good questions to ask before you decide to start charging money for something. The onus here is on the mod developers to decide how best to recoup their time investment.

If I had to guess... Collaborative projects like you describe just simply won't be sold and will continue to be worked on for free.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
10. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 24, 2015, 13:33 descender
 
In a true capitalist system there would not be corporations as we understand them now
Corporations are merely the inevitable result of capitalist endeavors collectively assigning and protecting themselves from risk. This divide between capital/corporatism that you describe doesn't really exist in any sense because you couldn't "start" a corporatist economy from the ground up. It's an evolution of capitalism at best, but it is certainly not it's own economic system.

A genuine capitalist system is benign
Well, this is the hilarious lie that has been fed to us for generations. Capitalism IS greed, it IS destruction and inequality. It can't exist in any other form. Growth for the sake of growth is unsustainable and someone has to pay the price. The inevitable result of capitalism IS this corporate takeover because those in power will always seek to retain that power. I suppose you are right in a way, we don't live in a purely capitalist society because that would be way worse.

If you want to talk about how these economies are supposed to operate "on paper" than socialist and communist structures are actually the benign systems by nature because they eliminate competition and actually provide for the people. Capitalism being good for anything or anyone is basically a horrid lie, a cancer that by design only benefits a miniscule fraction of a society.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
8. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 24, 2015, 12:53 descender
 
Our economy is almost entirely controlled and regulated by the state for the benefit of the government and top tier corporations.

I can't agree with that 100%. Regulation != control. Regulation is probably the only thing that has stopped "capitalism" from tearing the country apart decades ago. The US doesn't tell it's citizens what to make or how to make it, that's the control you lose in true socialist/communist society. it may tell them what not to make, or how not to make it... that's safety and regulation, not control.

The hair to be split here resides over "corporate" vs "personal" wealth control in regards to corporatism vs capitalism, but they are really two sides of the same coin. Corporatism is merely an extension of capitalism by which corporations are filling the roles of the individual. It's the same broken underlying economic system though.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
5. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 24, 2015, 12:21 descender
 
Capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

It really has nothing to do with what device you use for your commodity exchanges, or what that is actually backed by.

Capitalism has not been replaced, capitalism itself has replaced our entire system of government. That our system is "democratic"... that's the myth.
 
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