Beamer wrote on Jun 15, 2013, 13:22:

SirKnight wrote on Jun 15, 2013, 10:55:

Beamer wrote on Jun 14, 2013, 22:09:

Frags4Fun wrote on Jun 14, 2013, 21:16:
That engineer mentions "nothing goes back to developers" when it comes used game sales. Why the hell should anything go back to the developers? If I buy a new Chevy from a dealer and then decide to sell the car later, do I give some of the money I get to Chevy or the dealer? No! If I decide to let my brother borrow it for a day, should I send Chevy or the dealer a check? The same applies to any other product. Once I buy it, it's mine! I'm so sick of these cunts who think they still own the product that I paid for. Double-dipping bastards!

Wow. Seriously, wow.

The car analogy is also so flawed it's painful. A car is something extremely expensive that most people cannot afford new. At all. It's also not really a luxury in this day and age.

Most importantly, its value drops. There's good reason to want a new car versus a used one. Less risk, it's cleaner, it will run better, etc. A used game? It's identical to a new game. Zero flaws based upon it being used. It simply does not degrade. Cars do.

Your post was nearly a meltdown and it is pretty far off base.

No you're completely wrong. The car analogy is fine. It doesn't matter if the object degrades or not. The main point is that there is NOTHING where you have to pay a fee to the original maker when something is sold as used.

Plus cars can be restored to new or better than new anyway. And not call cars stay devalued forever. Just look at classic corvette values.

Another thing, a lot of used games have tiny scratched/scuffs, torn manuals or cases so yes they do degrade some once someone gets a hold of it.

The impact on the industry is vastly different, hence why it does not hold up. Scratches on the manual or case are meaningless, as the manual and case are usually not even looked at. Scratches on a car or dents in the side panels do matter.

Ryan Lange wrote on Jun 14, 2013, 21:45:

Rattlehead wrote on Jun 14, 2013, 21:35:
That alleged Xbox engineer is so full of tripe. Steam offers many more benefits to the consumer, while Xbox One simply doesn't.

To be fair, it sounds like the Xbox One will actually allow you to sell/transfer your purchased games to someone else. Steam doesn't. Once you purchase a game for yourself on Steam, it's forever attached to that account.

So, that's something.

However, all that stuff about these restrictions allowing for cheaper games on the Xbox One is complete nonsense. It's not even a guarantee. Even the words this alleged engineer used reveals that, even with these restrictions, all Microsoft can do is suggest to the publisher that they sell their game at a lower price. As I said, it's not going to happen.

deqer wrote on Jun 14, 2013, 20:47:
Whoever pays/defends this, is not my friend. Sorry, I just don't want to be your friend anymore.

robdot wrote on Jun 14, 2013, 01:03:
I have 3 consoles, and when there are on, they are "always on". My current 360 is always on. My tv is wifi, and when its on, the wifi is on. Always. So what? My laptop is online RIGHT NOW ! GASP !! All this drm stuff is the pirates fault. I hate and despise these people. and i dont pirate, so if a game publisher wants to check my code, im cool with it. See, if i buy a new car, ford doesnt tell me what i can do with it, who i can lend it to, or sell it to. But, i cant take my ford home, make 1000 copies and give them to my friends either, if i did that, and other people did that, i bet you ford would be pretty pissed off. If i can share my games with family members (grandkids) on their consoles, at their house, then we are gonna fucking love this system. IF thats how it works, microsoft is being unclear. But there could be some awesome benefits to this idea and its possible microsoft is ahead of the game. Can we co op with one game? I dunno, they are being really stupid and not stressing the benefits to the consumer.

netnerd85 wrote on Jun 13, 2013, 23:45:
I like how all the people bitching about not being able to share games on Xbox One have Steam installed, Deruka DERR!

coldbricksNZ wrote on Jun 13, 2013, 23:16:
How about Witcher 2?

Anyone got a recommendation?

Mad Max RW wrote on Jun 13, 2013, 23:01:
The press doesn't want to cover it because it's killing Obama's approval. He's currently lower than George W Bush!

Also, look how fast they dropped the IRS scandal. Typical liberal media.

Ludomancer wrote on Jun 13, 2013, 21:34:
Either way, you're definitely not in the wrong for liking FEZ, and you're not exactly in the wrong for hating Fish, so it's a tossup for the individual.

PS4’s used game policy isn’t “because some other company is doing something”.

Theo wrote on Jun 13, 2013, 21:07:
fuck fish , please please please dont support this.

Yosemite Sam wrote on Jun 13, 2013, 13:38:

Wallshadows wrote on Jun 13, 2013, 12:56:

Kajetan wrote on Jun 13, 2013, 09:01:
Titanfall: How no one cares but will still make a billion dollars

Fixed

As an Xbox exclusive? not a chance.

Verno wrote on Jun 13, 2013, 09:24:
I thought it looked alright but I'm not picking up a Adbox for it.

Lorcin wrote on Jun 12, 2013, 21:28:

Creston wrote on Jun 12, 2013, 21:16:
Way to be pathetic, ESA. It's a hundred dollar console that plays phone game (and does so not very well), and you're being this pedantic dick in trying to stop people from noticing them.

I hereby move we nominate the ESA instead of EA in next year's "Biggest fucking dicks in America" competition.

Creston

Kinda of normal shite - 3 years ago my wife was coining it in as a webcam model. Her and 3 other UK models set up a lottery competition to win a day with them at an adult convention here in the UK. Unfortunately the other 3 girls turned up in branded wabcam site t-shirts and got escorted off the premises even though they had bought tickets! Luckely my wife wasn't in the branding and we got to be bored by the lamest exhibition I've ever seen.

The ejected girls were no threat and bought some much needed eye candy to a bunch of sad sleezy stalls but hey - they hadn't paid to advertise apparently.

But yeah long story short - event organisers are VERY protective of their event space.