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News Comments > etc., etc.
32. Re: etc., etc. Jan 20, 2015, 12:49 yuastnav
 
InBlack wrote on Jan 20, 2015, 09:32:
yuastnav wrote on Jan 20, 2015, 09:26:
I'm not some kid, I've been using the internet for about 13 years (I was a teen back then) and the first thing that I actually did was download mIRC. I guess I've been hanging around in the wrong channels since death threats wasn't something that happened often.
Yeah, some people were assholes and on some boards I visited you could catch some death threat by some idiot before the mods cleaned it up but it was just that. A threat. It wasn't someone stalking you over the net, trying to find out as much info about you as possible.
This is what's sociopathic. Obsessing about someone, looking for their address, sending cops to that place and then gleefully laughing at the thought that this might get someone killed. This is of course a minority but if someone is determined enough he could do some real damage.

So you feel it is justified that Sarkesian labels an entire culture (of which you are a part of) as sexist and bigoted as a result of personal death threats made against her? (Of which BTW I have yet to see her produce any evidence or relevant police reports) I dont see Angelina Jolie, or Brad Pitt etc. labeling movie goers as psychopaths despite being on the recieving end of much worse. This is what is happening in gaming, gamers are being called out and this is what people take issue with.

I don't know exactly what she said. I don't recall her saying that all gamers are sexist etc. but I don't know. Personally I've never felt that she's addressing me, even though I am a male gamer. Maybe it's also because I agree that there is sexism in games but also probably because this is an important topic for me and because I have very strong opinions about sexism.
I understand that some might be offended because they are called something they are not in which case I can only recommend to just be cool and deal with it in a rational way. Maybe then you can see things differently.
In other cases it probably hits too close to home and people are offended of being called sexist because it's true and they don't want to admit it.


Yeahyeah Yeah wrote on Jan 20, 2015, 09:26:
yuastnav wrote on Jan 20, 2015, 06:21:
What I don't yet understand is why so many of you take offence at what's being done to combat that kind of behaviour. Judging from the wording some of you even take that as a personal affront.

Pardon me if I'm skeptical of Quinn's 'doing something to combat that kind of behavior'. I'd support people who I could trust were committed to dealing with harassers and providing support for people who were harassed, period. In this case? I'd bet parts of my left hand that what Quinn envisions is a platform for boosting herself, legitimizing her (political, social activist) friends, and de-legitimizing her (political, social activist) enemies.

Maybe that's true. Maybe that's paranoia. Time will tell.


Agrolith wrote on Jan 20, 2015, 09:54:
it's difficult to come across something like that for someone who hasn't followed what went down very closely

Then how can you draw, what looks to be a one sided conclusion if you haven't followed everything?

How can I not? The alternative would be to not form an opinion at all, to say that I don't know everything and that I just stay silent.
But I'll never know anything. Feminism is an important topic for me and I will call out sexism where I see it. Regardless of how gamergate started, one of the sides definitely has a lot of sexism (again, I'm not saying that there aren't people who truly believe that they are fighting for something important, i.e. ethics in journalism) and I have the feeling that a lot of feminists are maybe misunderstood? I'm not talking about extremists like Alice Schwarzer or whoever who claim that "all men are pigs" bla bla.
Some here describe Anita and Zoe etc. in ways that I don't see. Of course they aren't flawless. And who knows, maybe Anita is really not a real gamer (I remember something along the lines) but what's important is the bigger picture and that's something that is above the individuals.

Yeahyeah Yeah wrote on Jan 20, 2015, 10:05:
So you feel it is justified that Sarkesian labels an entire culture (of which you are a part of) as sexist and bigoted as a result of personal death threats made against her?

It's also mighty targeted. If you disagree with them about anything, if you're critical of them, bam... you're on the side of people who hate women and love to send them death threats. If you condemn that sort of behavior? That's just your cover story. If you really meant it you would abandon all your criticism of them and criticize their critics!

See, that's just something that I don't see. Maybe I'm not getting the whole thing so correct me if I'm wrong but they are not impervious to criticism and I don't think they behave in this way.


panbient wrote on Jan 20, 2015, 10:17:
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It's pretty simple, people can't find out personal details about you unless you choose to make them public online. And fact is, regardless of how mainstream the internet has become, it's still very much a free for all. If you're going to poke a stick at a hornets nest you should expect to get stung. I'm not saying it's right, or that the people making threats are justified, only that it's foolishly naive to be any sort of shocked or surprised by the behavior.

But the fact of the matter is that we as humans don't learn from other people's mistakes and there is always the thought that somehow this will not happen to you.
It's difficult to comprehend something before you didn't experience it first hand. It's easy to say "Oh, he or she got doxxed, no big deal. They are partly to blame anyway since they released so much of their info on the internet."
Everyone can slip up. And how many of you can honestly say that they are in complete control over how much information they released on the net. Unless you are very careful and/or paranoid you may say or do something that will be used in way that you've never imagined.

Let's say someone wants a personal website and buys a domain. At least here in Germany the information can be obtained via whois, don't know about providers in other countries, so it's not really hidden in any way. Someone who has no idea about this will be very surprised when he or she gets some very nasty things in their mailbox all of a sudden.
This is a crude example, of course, but most of us aren't in control and quite often when you publish something on the net it's there to stay.
 
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News Comments > etc., etc.
24. Re: etc., etc. Jan 20, 2015, 09:26 yuastnav
 
InBlack wrote on Jan 20, 2015, 09:10:
yuastnav wrote on Jan 20, 2015, 06:21:

What I don't yet understand is why so many of you take offence at what's being done to combat that kind of behaviour. Judging from the wording some of you even take that as a personal affront.


The issue is overblown. Overblown beyond all proportions and anyone who has spent any significant ammount of time online will atest to that fact.
Most of us have been on the internet since its inception. We are all veterans of IRC/ICQ and countless forums and online games. We intimately understand and know what kind of behaviour is fostered on an anonymous soapbox (with potential worldwide reach). Internet etiquette is non existant, hence the importance of adhering to simple rules when publishing work online. Most importantly we are aware of the huge disconnect between what happens on the interenet and what goes on in the real world. Regardless of the media trend of giving ever more imporatance to itself, this disconnect is real and it is huge. Death threats for example on the internet are common, not because the internet is populated by sociopaths but because anonmymity gives people a smokescreen, it allows them to act out and vent in ways they would never even consider in real life, say over the telephone. People have been smacktalking online since the Doom days. That doest meen that most of those same people are criminals or bigots. Yeah even the terrible trolls are simply just that. Trolls. There are always bad and completely rotten apples that take these things to an extreme but even with those cases taken into acount its wrong and immoral to label an entire culture as criminal or bigoted.

This is my 2c, or rather my reason for taking affront with the likes of Anita Sarkessian or Zoe Quinn. I dont have anything against these women personally, I just injustice wherever I find it and I find it unjust that these ladies are agitating an entire community for what is personal gain.

I'm not some kid, I've been using the internet for about 13 years (I was a teen back then) and the first thing that I actually did was download mIRC. I guess I've been hanging around in the wrong channels since death threats wasn't something that happened often.
Yeah, some people were assholes and on some boards I visited you could catch some death threat by some idiot before the mods cleaned it up but it was just that. A threat. It wasn't someone stalking you over the net, trying to find out as much info about you as possible.
This is what's sociopathic. Obsessing about someone, looking for their address, sending cops to that place and then gleefully laughing at the thought that this might get someone killed. This is of course a minority but if someone is determined enough he could do some real damage.
 
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News Comments > etc., etc.
23. Re: etc., etc. Jan 20, 2015, 09:19 yuastnav
 
Agrolith wrote on Jan 20, 2015, 09:07:
Sounds like you, like most media took bias and only looked at one side of the story.
More then enough of the people that suppport gamergame have also been harrassed, Doxxed, and send stuff in the mail like needles and dead animals.
instead of just getting all your information from biased media. do more reading.
http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/wiki/index

would be a good place to start.

If by media you mean sites like Polygon, Eurogamer, Kotaku or whatever then I haven't read any media at all.
I read a bit in wikis, looked at twitter and at stuff what people posted, a few blogs maybe etc. I will not dispute that supporters of gamergate were also harassed, however, it's difficult to come across something like that for someone who hasn't followed what went down very closely. To me the majority of said harassment seems to be coming from the gamergate site, which is amplified by the suspect claims that it's all for ethics whereas there are cases where that is clearly not the case.

One thing that boggles my mind is the rabid hatred some of these people have for feminism or women.

I've been reading too much mainstream media? Hell, I just have to visit something like reaxxion if I feel the need to throw up. It's astounding what kind of delusions people spin out of their fantasies.

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And no, I'm not going to read reddit. I hate that place.
 
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News Comments > etc., etc.
19. Re: etc., etc. Jan 20, 2015, 06:21 yuastnav
 
So I've finally taken some time to read up on what has happened in the last few months.
From what I see there are quite a few people who align themselves with gamergate that deliberately hunt down anyone who dares to say anything against their behaviour or their motives by trying to get any information (including addresses and addresses of friends, relatives etc.) they can and then publish them on the internet.
If some posts/reactions can be trusted some take even a weird kind of pleasure in doing harm to people with differing ideals, even going as far as calling the police by reporting fake crimes or whatever. This is already sociopathic behaviour. However, since it's coming from places like 4chan it's actually not that surprising.

What I don't yet understand is why so many of you take offence at what's being done to combat that kind of behaviour. Judging from the wording some of you even take that as a personal affront.

Harassment in any kind of form takes its toll on one's mind, be it anonymous or not.

I get the feeling that the whole "ethics in journalism" thing is just a front and gamergate is not about that but about some people getting off to harassing others on the internet. Which, actually, is also not that surprising.
 
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News Comments > Spaceship Ahoy - Elite: Dangerous
668. Re: Spaceship Ahoy - Elite: Dangerous Jan 19, 2015, 16:29 yuastnav
 
Damn, didn't visit this place for a week or two and it jumped from 400+ posts to over 600.
Wish I had more time to play.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Crowdfunding Roundup
7. Re: Sunday Crowdfunding Roundup Jan 19, 2015, 07:02 yuastnav
 
I've poured thousands of hours into Natural Selection, sometime between 2003 and 2006.
Natural Selection may be dead but in our hearts it will still live on. I think having a Gorge plushy is a nice memento, even though I am a bit disappointed that it's blue and not green. In Natural Selection it was certainly very green-yellowish and I've only played very little Natural Selection 2 to judge whether the blue colour is fitting. NS2 is too broken, unfortunately. At least it was last time I played it. :/
 
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News Comments > Sunday Crowdfunding Roundup
4. Re: Sunday Crowdfunding Roundup Jan 18, 2015, 16:17 yuastnav
 
Finally. We've been asking for that for more than ten years now!  
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News Comments > Grand Theft Auto V PC Preorders
44. Re: Grand Theft Auto V PC Preorders Jan 17, 2015, 10:16 yuastnav
 
Ozmodan wrote on Jan 17, 2015, 09:44:
On the other hand, there are a ton of used GTA V games out there for consoles. Don't know why anyone needs a PC version after it has been out so long.

Because some of us don't have consoles?
 
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News Comments > Grand Theft Auto V PC Preorders
43. Re: Grand Theft Auto V PC Preorders Jan 17, 2015, 10:16 yuastnav
 
By the way, how is the traffic AI in GTA V?
I realise that this game is not for driving around normally but I sometimes like to do that. From what I remember it wasn't bad in Saints Row 3 (it's pretty annoying in Saints Row 4) but the traffic AI in GTA IV is terrible.

- If you stop at a red light the cars behind you get impatient and will try to overtake you, as if you're not supposed to be there and ram into you.
- If a NPC car runs over a cop he will act as if nothing happened.
- A police car that crashes into you will immediately become hostile
- In case of an imminent crash the NPC AI will just continue driving forward instead of trying to get out of your way.
- Instead of trying to maintain traffic flow AI cars will abruptly stop if there is another car in a ~120° cone in front of them which can cause huge traffic jams at crossroads.

It's incredibly annoying to drive around the city in a normal way and from I've read GTA V is worse and even the first Saints row had better traffic AI.
For shame Rockstar. For shame.
 
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News Comments > Steam for Linux Bug Could Cause Data Loss
4. Re: Steam for Linux Bug Could Cause Data Loss Jan 17, 2015, 07:43 yuastnav
 
Gaben pls.  
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News Comments > Morning Interviews
35. Re: Morning Interviews Jan 17, 2015, 07:01 yuastnav
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Jan 16, 2015, 19:01:
[...]
Convenient? You mean an acronym that anyone who's been on the internet for the last 25 years has used. Well I guess that's news to everyone else out there.
[...]

Well, it is amazing that you have talked to everyone who has been on the internet for the past 25 years to confirm that they actually know what CP.

However, I can logically refute your hypothesis since I am aware that you have not talked to me, although I've been on the internet for the past 13 years, and was not aware of that acronym.


*sigh*

I wish people would just take one single little maths course so they would stop using generalisations. "Men", "Women", "everyone", "everything", "always", "feminists", bla bla bla; and instead say "some x". But that wouldn't suit your argument, would it.

"I know that and so everyone does, too."
 
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News Comments > Saints Row IV Gat out of Hell Trailer
7. Re: Saints Row IV Gat out of Hell Trailer Jan 17, 2015, 06:14 yuastnav
 
Finished Saints Row IV last night after playing and ragequitting the game when it crashed several times during the last mission, way back in Autumn 2013.
Also read that the Saints Row series is basically done, i.e. there is no way to go further and take it to the next level since apparently there is no next level.

Well, I guess that's true and we're seeing it now.
 
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News Comments > Pillars of Eternity in March
21. Re: Pillars of Eternity in March Jan 15, 2015, 05:55 yuastnav
 
Flatline wrote on Jan 14, 2015, 18:07:
yuastnav wrote on Jan 14, 2015, 15:21:
Okay.

Somehow I didn't expect it so soon.

Why is this and GTA V going to be released in the same month as a conference I have to go to? :/

I guess I'm the only one who found GTA 5 to be not great? I mean, some of the heists were cool and you didn't have to haul your cousin to titty bars every 15 minutes of gameplay but 5 overall kind of went over lukewarm for me.

I already paid 60 bucks for it when it came out last generation. Even with a technical overhaul, it's the same story and the same old shit.

Okay, good to know. I actually didn't play GTA V since I only have a PC and I wasn't planning on buying it. Most people kept praising the game and saying that it's fun despite its flaws; so I figured I might as well get in on the fun.

Personally I'm a totally a fan of open world games, that's why I love games like ETS2 and E:D so much, even though there is actually not that much to do and it gets boring. Exploring or running/driving around in a world is enough.
It has to feel alive, though. Proteus was kind of a live and was all about exploration but I found it boring so there needs to be a world I can interact with.
I guess the story becomes secondary.

I'll keep your experience in mind, though.
 
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News Comments > Pillars of Eternity in March
13. Re: Pillars of Eternity in March Jan 14, 2015, 15:21 yuastnav
 
Okay.

Somehow I didn't expect it so soon.

Why is this and GTA V going to be released in the same month as a conference I have to go to? :/
 
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News Comments > Medieval Engineers Announced
14. Re: Medieval Engineers Announced Jan 14, 2015, 09:49 yuastnav
 
jdreyer wrote on Jan 13, 2015, 18:55:
yuastnav wrote on Jan 13, 2015, 16:06:
Okay, how about this: how about you first finish one game and then start your next project, mmmkay?

Or at least address it:

"We'll be releasing final code for Space Engineers in March. Meanwhile, here's a look at our next game in the very early design stage."

The worst thing is that they wrote in their newsletter

We are excited to announce *Medieval Engineers*, our second "engineering" game. As you may already know, the first, Space Engineers, was released in October 2013 and sold over 1 million copies in its first year, and is still keeping its bestseller position.

which, while not a blatant lie, sounds like they released a finished game. Which they did not. Space Engineers is still in early access.
 
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News Comments > Medieval Engineers Announced
9. Re: Medieval Engineers Announced Jan 13, 2015, 16:06 yuastnav
 
Okay, how about this: how about you first finish one game and then start your next project, mmmkay?  
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News Comments > PC Grand Theft Auto V Delayed to March; Specs Revealed
5. Re: PC Grand Theft Auto V Delayed to March; Specs Revealed Jan 13, 2015, 10:57 yuastnav
 
HDD Space: 65GB

Wat.

So how is this even possible? I thought this game was supposed to run on the older console generation? Or did they add any fancy enhancements to the PC version (as if)?
I also like how they said four days ago that it's not going to be delayed and somehow they suddenly realised that that's actually necessary.
 
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News Comments > H1Z1 Early Access This Week
21. Re: H1Z1 Early Access This Week Jan 13, 2015, 08:17 yuastnav
 
DangerDog wrote on Jan 12, 2015, 17:09:
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They should have retooled the game to work on their carrier command engine, something to give it more of a "game" feel than a man simulator. Even Arma 3 doesn't make for an overwhelmingly enjoyable experience when it comes down to gameplay.

Really? I didn't play Arma 2 much because the interface was too clunky but I've put about 40 hours into the singleplayer of Arma 3 and it was a blast. It's so much better and playing it is fun.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
19. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Jan 13, 2015, 06:39 yuastnav
 
Redmask wrote on Jan 9, 2015, 07:50:
yuastnav wrote on Jan 9, 2015, 06:12:
PHJF wrote on Jan 8, 2015, 10:09:
Pretty sure Bose has all the patents for overpriced.

So your definition of overpriced doesn't depend on the quality of the product?

I wouldn't use the same label for Beats and Bose products...

Why not? Same thing, mediocre products with a high price tag and a lot of marketing.

Wait, don't tell me you got suckered into buying Bose..

No, but I was thinking about buying their QuietComfort 25 headphones because I read they have very good sound quality and noise cancellation abilities.

Don't know much else about Bose products.
 
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News Comments > etc., etc.
7. Re: etc., etc. Jan 13, 2015, 06:31 yuastnav
 
I'm curious about this game. Saw a trailer on humblebundle and so I'll patiently wait for a Wot I think.

Good for Square Enix.
 
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