SectorEffector wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 17:18:
I couldn't resist tweeting I'm such a bastard.

This guy is out to lunch. ;D

Alamar wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 17:02:

ASeven wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 10:21:
Here you go guys, the reward for buying Diablo3! Now everyone knows PC gamers will buy always online DRM and now everyone will implement it!

Hope D3 was worth ruining the experience of PC gaming.

Not surprised at the comment... Really not surprised at the person...

Ya know, because D3 was the first to do this...

nin wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 16:46:

ASeven wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 16:30:

nin wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 16:21:

NegaDeath wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 15:40:
It's like the guys hobby is burning bridges or something.

You think he went to the Derek Smart School Of Asshattery?

DON'T mention his name. He might show up.

Voldemor-er, Derek?

Beamer wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 16:37:

ASeven wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 15:28:
ever since GoW their attitude has always been to have a security net in the form of a publisher for all games they publish.

Not really sure what "security net" you mean, given that Epic finances themselves. Also, you mean "develop" with that last one.

Maybe you're a "whiny cunt" that does nothing but bitch about games you don't like and publishers you don't want to buy from? Maybe you should just, I don't know, stop paying attention to the part of the hobby you're no longer part of? Maybe you should stop taking it so personally and reading things that aren't there?

nin wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 16:21:

NegaDeath wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 15:40:
It's like the guys hobby is burning bridges or something.

You think he went to the Derek Smart School Of Asshattery?

AngelicPenguin wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 16:22:

ASeven wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 15:28:

Beamer wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 15:19:
Seriously? "Cunts."

You're a good man, there, ASeven.


And there is no publisher for this. Epic, being very, very wealthy, hasn't had a true publisher relationship. Ever. And this is already looking like it will be self-published. It's almost definitely online-only and probably f2p. Epic has more than enough cash to do that on their own, probably a few dozen times over. In the past publishers were used solely for marketing (and they now have an in-house team and are hiring) and for distribution (which would now be Steam and maybe some other digital storefronts.)

I call them for what they are, if you can't handle raw honesty find something else to read then. I call as I see them and yes, they are very much a pack of cunts who only whine about PC piracy and people not buying their games while producing derivative crap all the time.

You are getting pretty epically worked up there (ba-da-bump)

NegaDeath wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 15:40:

ASeven wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 15:29:

nin wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 15:03:

After all he may come to us to ask for our money after he insulted us PC gamers like that.

If he does a kickstarter for the PC version, the gloves will come off...

Oh, I would pay to see that.

You may get your chance:

3/12/2012
"The campaign wouldn't start until after the release of Fez, which Fish is concerned about: "I'm afraid people might take [the Kickstarter] the wrong way. Like, 'Why do you need a Kickstarter, you just made Fez?' Yeah, but it takes five months before we get paid, maybe, it's totally variable, but at least three months. The best case scenario is we get paid three months after the release. I don't want to wait three months.""

It's like the guys hobby is burning bridges or something.

Edit: Clarification, this would be a kickstarter for a new game not a PC port.

nin wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 15:03:

After all he may come to us to ask for our money after he insulted us PC gamers like that.

If he does a kickstarter for the PC version, the gloves will come off...

Beamer wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 15:19:
Seriously? "Cunts."

You're a good man, there, ASeven.


And there is no publisher for this. Epic, being very, very wealthy, hasn't had a true publisher relationship. Ever. And this is already looking like it will be self-published. It's almost definitely online-only and probably f2p. Epic has more than enough cash to do that on their own, probably a few dozen times over. In the past publishers were used solely for marketing (and they now have an in-house team and are hiring) and for distribution (which would now be Steam and maybe some other digital storefronts.)

jacobvandy wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 15:19:
Yeah, they're hiding something. You don't put out a press release stating only "earnings and sales" at the end of your financial quarter... I'm looking through the investor section of their site and they have no legitimate report posted since the end of FY2012 in May. They probably only give it out if you fill out that form to request one mailed to you.

Verno wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 14:13:

5/25/2012
"Fez is a console game, not a PC game. It’s made to be played with a controller, on a couch, on a Saturday morning. To me, that matters; that’s part of the medium. I get so many comments shouting at me that I’m an idiot for not making a PC version. ‘You’d make so much more money! Can’t you see? Meatboy sold more on Steam!’ Good for them. But this matters more to me than sales or revenue. It’s a console game on a console. End of story"

Wow that's a pretty stupid thing to say less than two months before you hint that you're going to make a PC version.

edit: wow that guy is a total moron

For those who hate twitter he says:

"Boo hoo, PCs are for spreadsheets" in response to a fan question.

DangerDog wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 13:19:

ASeven wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 12:57:
They'll blame piracy on PC and the evil PC pirates if the game fails to sell, even if it has always-online DRM. Calling it now.

Well, Diablo hasn't been pirated yet but I believe some group did release a copy of Battlefield 3 for "offline single play".

Verno wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 12:18:
This is about BF stuff, not other games soooo

Do research, it's true man. They gave the client a ridiculous level of access and control, the hacks can do pretty insane things and obtain unusual levels of subtlety that would normally be caught due to the lack of things like Battle Recorder and etc.

theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 13:32:
And here I was under the impression that the entire gaming industry was about to crash and that none of the major publishers would be able to survive.

NegaDeath wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 11:47:
5/25/2012
"Fez is a console game, not a PC game. It’s made to be played with a controller, on a couch, on a Saturday morning. To me, that matters; that’s part of the medium. I get so many comments shouting at me that I’m an idiot for not making a PC version. ‘You’d make so much more money! Can’t you see? Meatboy sold more on Steam!’ Good for them. But this matters more to me than sales or revenue. It’s a console game on a console. End of story"

If he back peddles any faster he might break the sound barrier.

Beamer wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 12:41:
1) This game has no publisher
2) That "representative" is the lead designer

HorrorScope wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 11:51:

Yakubs wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 10:51:

morose wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 10:14:
Case in point, I didn't buy Diablo III but I've had Torchlight 2 on pre-order for months.

Congrats. You've spent money and gotten nothing in return. And you won't for another 12+ months.

What's more irrational? Always-on DRM or people who pre-order video games?

How about me then? I didn't buy D3 but will buy T2 since it will be as good or better at a 1/3 of the cost.

AngelicPenguin wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 11:31:

Steele Johnson wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 11:24:
Blizzard is now my new "one trick pony" developer. WoW was a huge success and they've proved that their new games aren't at the same level of quality or enjoyment. $60 for a thrown together hack-n-slash; I feel like such a sucker for purchasing it. An indie developer could have done a better job in a shorter period of time and put a price of $15 on it.

Wouldn't it at least be a three trick pony with Warcraft, Diablo and World of Warcraft?

Steele Johnson wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 11:24:
I feel like such a sucker for purchasing it. An indie developer could have done a better job in a shorter period of time and put a price of $15 on it.

Elessar wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 10:44:

ASeven wrote on Jul 19, 2012, 10:35:
You wanted so much to go to the Xbox360 and now you pay the price. Deal with it and stop whining since it was your choice and you said time and again you were happy on being a MS exclusive. Made bed, lie on it.

Hopefully this will serve as a warning to other indie devs that going to Microsoft won't solve any of your problems but just add to them.

As nin said, he learned his lesson the hard way. Glad he's being vocal about his troubles with MS to serve as a warning to others, but there's no reason to be a massive jerk about it.