Leper wrote on Oct 26, 2012, 19:56:
Right now I'm considering whether to buy this, Deadlight or Mark of Ninja.

Optional Nickname! wrote on Oct 26, 2012, 15:00:
With the role of SimCity Classic now available due to EA's complete failure, some enterprising developers should attempt a remake of the classic, without all of the corporate shovel-ware crap.

I'd contribute to a proper SimCity Kickstarter.

Creston wrote on Oct 26, 2012, 13:53:

ASeven wrote on Oct 26, 2012, 12:12:
This post pretty much brilliantly resumes the events of the past days, revealing more stuff that has happened some of us might not be aware of yet.

They're doing an excellent job summarizing everything. This part is especially interesting:

in fact, bringing a libel case in the UK is prohibitively expensive and open to almost nobody as a result. And even if Intent had had a massive brainfail and tried it with this one, they'd have been laughed out of court in five minutes flat. Eurogamer's near-instant cave-in to the complaint is extremely baffling, as Wainwright didn't have a leg to stand on.

So Eurogamer caved for no reason, and it was already dubious for them to cave to begin with, as this isn't some big publisher threatening them. I could kind of understand them backing down if it was EA or Ubisoft going "hey, take that shit down or we're done with you." After all, they exist off their relations with big publishers. But that's not the case, it's just another media organization.

Way to stick up for your columnist there, Eurogamer.

Verno wrote on Oct 26, 2012, 12:28:
Apparently being criticized for your public actions to advertise on behalf of a company without disclosing it is considered "libel". Lauren Wainright is an idiot. There, she can sue me, see you in court.

Beamer wrote on Oct 25, 2012, 17:35:

Bhruic wrote on Oct 25, 2012, 16:27:

Beamer wrote on Oct 25, 2012, 14:27:
Those are two separate issues. Including multiplayer and mandating always online aren't the same thing.

Sure, and there's a difference between having optional multiplayer and designing the game around multiplayer. If nothing else, C&C 4 demonstrated that effectively forcing multiplayer through design choices tends to result in a poorer single player experience. Considering EA's track record, I don't expect anything better here (sadly, as I enjoyed the previous SimCities).

Is this not optional multiplayer? I thought you could wall your city off, or connect with friends.

ASeven bitched about unnecessary multiplayer. I didn't say it was necessary to force online, I just said that SimCity lends itself to multiplayer in ways that can be very entertaining. I don't want to sit around bitching about them putting multiplayer in when I think that's actually a fun, innovative idea.

It's the way they're going about using it as an excuse for always-on that I take issue with. But if they rebuilt SC2K exactly, only allowing us to connect to and influence our friend's cities, I'd love it.

Verno wrote on Oct 25, 2012, 11:16:
Wait what? No subways and pipes? It's a fucking game about building city infrastructure. What was the justification on that one? Is there going to be any depth or complexity left in this thing?

Beamer wrote on Oct 25, 2012, 11:16:
Did old SC games have modtools?

ASeven, aren't virtually all social and multiplayer features "unneeded?" I don't see how you say forced, either. Unless it's forcing me to play with people, or forcing me to add things to my Facebook feed, it isn't forced. The idea of being able to build a neighboring, competing city to a friend's is one I would have killed for in SC2000. Killed. Being able to send tornados into friends' cities is even better.
Sorry, I think that is awesome, not "forced," and while not needed it's pretty cool.

I'm with you on everything else.