Flatline wrote on Jul 17, 2012, 15:17:

Darks wrote on Jul 17, 2012, 14:55:
yea, theres all kinds of hell going on there with them. I have a contact there thats very close to this project and hes telling me its not good at all. Wont be much longer until this game is either free or shut down.

Normally I'd say it's insane to shut down the game when it's less than a year old, but this is EA, who shuts down servers for year old games all the time.

MattyC wrote on Jul 17, 2012, 12:12:

wonkawonka wrote on Jul 17, 2012, 11:36:
I have no idea what the cheating is about, but it must be really rampant (and bots must be ruling the roost) because prices in the AH are insane for a normal player, and drops rates are epsilon (and drops are crap anyway).
I played 75 hours, much of it at level 60, quite a bit of it on inferno, and I have YET TO SEE A DROP BETTER THAN YELLOW.

Needless to say I stopped playing.

At 75 hours you either leveled crazy fast or you didn't spend that much time in inferno.

As for the AH, why use it? Farming for items more or less is Diablo. Drops do need to be buffed (they are working on that) but atm yellow more or less is the best.


If anything I would say paranoia from their history with WoW, not a lack of testing lead to most of the negative aspects of the game. They seem far too concerned with hardcore players blasting through the content and burning out. That resulted in overtuned champ packs with underwhelming drop rates.


The game is nothing amazing, but it is hardly a mess either. With the amount of time I have played / fun I have had, it would be absurd to suggest I didn't get my $ worth.

RollinThundr wrote on Jul 17, 2012, 12:00:

ASeven wrote on Jul 17, 2012, 11:38:
Being online-only sure has taken care of all the cheaters and bots and exploits, right??

Ask Krowen, I think he's the single person who bought into that line of bullshit.

Vs D1 or D2 the cheating/exploits have indeed been minimal. Not sure why you ever thought being online only would do a single thing about bots. You are aware of MMO bots yes?

Verno wrote on Jul 17, 2012, 11:58:
That's what I said dude, iterating an FPS title every year - alternating franchises

The trouble with that approach is that they can't really update BF in a meaningful way within those timelines, Dice has shown time and time again that they take forever to get anything done.

ASeven wrote on Jul 17, 2012, 11:38:
Being online-only sure has taken care of all the cheaters and bots and exploits, right??

RailWizard wrote on Jul 17, 2012, 11:46:
Whatever. My desire to play sure died quick. Dayz, the steam sale, and getting into PS2 beta sure helps not miss it.

I think they should stop pretending they give a fuck about exploits and just get cranking on the inevitable expansion because the fucking game is in dire need of more.

Verno wrote on Jul 17, 2012, 11:21:
Their strategy for killing Call of Duty is to iterate an FPS title every year, that's why they revived Medal of Honor and are now putting BF on a two year cycle. They are mimicking the CoD cycle basically. It's frustrating and will just serve to dilute the franchise. Also a $70 DDE preorder to get access to a beta in a years time is frankly total bullshit.

Rattlehead wrote on Jul 16, 2012, 21:35:
I met Randy at PAX, he is a pretty down to earth guy.

ASeven wrote on Jul 16, 2012, 21:20:
Heh, no demand for Activision stock. This is going to give Microsoft or whomever even more reasons to offer a lower price per share, not to even mention what it means for the industry that such shares have such reported low demand.

ASeven wrote on Jul 15, 2012, 18:47:

Prez wrote on Jul 15, 2012, 13:01:

Yet you had no problem buying Diablo 3 which has one of the worse DRM structures know to man and was designed in such a way to make Blizzard even more money post release.

A lot of people who bought Diablo 3 have come to regret it (judging from these and other forums). Blizzard had a great reputation once, but they have done serious damage to it in the last couple of years. If they keep going the way they have been, they may end up being hated as much as EA; maybe worse. I know I myself have gone from loving Blizzard to despising them. They had better do a serious about face or Starcraft 2 may well end up as the last Blizzard game I ever buy.

He does have a good point though, anyone who bought D3 knowing full well what kind of DRM it came with have no validation whatsoever to complain about EA Origins or any other DRM for that matter. They already made their opinion about DRM and shitty service providers pretty clear when they got D3.

At lease people have finally realized that Blizzard has become like its mother company, it now only loves money.

theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jul 15, 2012, 04:45:

RollinThundr wrote on Jul 15, 2012, 00:09:
That being said they do publish titles that I like and I don't buy into the silly "boycotts" the gaming community likes to toss around. If any publisher puts out a game I'm prolly going to enjoy, I'll most likely buy it. /shrug

I am happy to buy EA games that are a) sensibly priced, b) don't have restrictive DRM, and c) are released on Steam. Unfortunately that means I've missed out on ME3 and BF3 but I'm not going to support a company that is trying to increase the price of games and push a service that is inferior to Steam in just about every way.

People don't hate on EA just for a laugh. People hate on EA because they have incredibly shitty business practices, they oppose the sales that have drawn so many people towards Steam, they use restrictive DRM (limited activations on Crysis 2, etc), their Origin service is half-assed and unreliable (I barely use it but my brother has had major trouble with it), they charge absolutely comically high prices for games, they treat their developers like dirt, they shut down great studios, they rape IPs (C&C, The Sims, Dragon Age, NFS, etc).

I hate that people try to pass off the dislike for EA as irrational. It's not the games themselves that people have the problem with (many of which are excellent) - it's the shitty business practices of EA.

Prez wrote on Jul 14, 2012, 21:50:

People tend to hate on EA just for the sake of hating on EA because it's the popular thing to do.

Can't speak for anyone else, but personally I tend to hate on EA because they fucking suck as a company; they are obsessed with profit to the detriment of everything else (no NOT just like every other company...), they destroy creativity, and treat their customers like shit. I'm no Valve loyalist (a fan, sure), but Valve is vastly better in virtually every conceivable way.

HorrorScope wrote on Jul 14, 2012, 18:27:

RollinThundr wrote on Jul 14, 2012, 17:48:
Well you know the EA name is on the cover, so that automatically makes it so that everyone who posts on BN has to hate it for the sake of it.

And be right 19 out of 20 times.

Dwarf-Snowninja wrote on Jul 14, 2012, 01:41:
Wow... really glad I took the time to look at this. Ever since the Battletech franchise petered out, I've been looking for some good mech games.

DangerDog wrote on Jul 14, 2012, 16:04:

Techie714 © wrote on Jul 14, 2012, 15:54:
Apparently the only guy that thought BF3 was awesome...checking in.....

It has it's warts but it's still the best multiplayer shooter around, I've tried to get into other games like Red Orchestra 2, Arma series, even *gasp* call of dooty but just find them lacking. I'm interested in trying Planetside 2.

Cutter wrote on Jul 13, 2012, 14:45:
Welp, Reagle had it right. However seeing as the invites are going to be spaced out it still may be some weeks before most of us get in. Gadzooks I hope not.

And yes, come join Catch 22 and we'll steamroll over all the NC and VS chode munching scum! Just look at my tagline. TB said it best about the NC!

Trevellian wrote on Jul 13, 2012, 14:11:

RollinThundr wrote on Jul 13, 2012, 14:10:

Trevellian wrote on Jul 13, 2012, 14:09:

RollinThundr wrote on Jul 13, 2012, 14:00:
Just got a key, I'd join you guys but Vanu is the enemy.

People who play Vanu are the worst. I only associate with one such person, and only because she has tits. Otherwise I would not talk to said Vanu.

What faction do you folks plan on playing Trev? Could have sworn you guys were Vanu, must have been reading wrong.

My tag on here should say it all. For the Republic my friend. Tyranny, Opression and Domination. This is the Terran Motto.

or for those of you who pick shit based on how cool stuff looks. The Black and Red guys.

Trevellian wrote on Jul 13, 2012, 14:09:

RollinThundr wrote on Jul 13, 2012, 14:00:
Just got a key, I'd join you guys but Vanu is the enemy.

People who play Vanu are the worst. I only associate with one such person, and only because she has tits. Otherwise I would not talk to said Vanu.

Frags4Fun wrote on Jul 13, 2012, 14:02:
As soon as I got my beta key, I ordered a Gigabyte GTX 680 OC X3. Now I'm sitting here waiting for UPS to deliver it.

When they say "kicking off this week", do they mean this week or this coming week?