Quboid wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 10:08:

RollinThundr wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 09:56:
Except it does because you never see republicans waving around the PC card. And people do go overboard over racism, ALL the fucking time.
Every little thing said tends to be misconstrued as racism these days and it's complete bullshit.

Again, that's because social conservatives don't tend to even try not to be assholes. They do the same shit, just over slightly different things.

Unless you think conservatives don't get offended over insignificant/made-up things?

Quboid wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 09:43:

RollinThundr wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 09:31:

nin wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 09:15:

Quboid wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 09:06:

RollinThundr wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 08:25:

n3farious wrote on Feb 3, 2013, 23:55:
Liberals will be offended at anything and everything.

Tiny Tina is the first character that I have had tears flowing down my face in laughter at in a video game. She is irreverent, crass and politically incorrect.. in the body of a sweet little girl. It works. Get over it.

Fixed that for you. Because really, conservatives don't tend to buy into PC. That's pretty much a liberal soapbox.

Oh yeah, it's just us liberals who get offended at anything and everything. That's why I'm so deeply upset about this, and why you can't ever find anyone on Fox News being offended at anything.

Trollindunder to the rescue!

It's not really trolling if it's true. Conservatives generally don't buy into the PC bandwagon. And conservatives also don't go looking for racism in things like superbowl tv commercials of all things.

Lets be honest here, offending a liberal and getting their panties into a twist isn't exactly difficult.

As I said before, political correctness is supposed to be about not being an asshole and you've got a point - conservatives tend not to buy into that.

It's got nothing to do with liberal or conservative. The only slight difference is what some people get offended over and if I'm going to be labelled in one camp or the other, I'd rather be associated with the sort of idiot who goes overboard over racism (an actually bad thing) than a televised nipple.

nin wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 09:15:

Quboid wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 09:06:

RollinThundr wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 08:25:

n3farious wrote on Feb 3, 2013, 23:55:
Liberals will be offended at anything and everything.

Tiny Tina is the first character that I have had tears flowing down my face in laughter at in a video game. She is irreverent, crass and politically incorrect.. in the body of a sweet little girl. It works. Get over it.

Fixed that for you. Because really, conservatives don't tend to buy into PC. That's pretty much a liberal soapbox.

Oh yeah, it's just us liberals who get offended at anything and everything. That's why I'm so deeply upset about this, and why you can't ever find anyone on Fox News being offended at anything.

Trollindunder to the rescue!

n3farious wrote on Feb 3, 2013, 23:55:
Liberals will be offended at anything and everything.

Tiny Tina is the first character that I have had tears flowing down my face in laughter at in a video game. She is irreverent, crass and politically incorrect.. in the body of a sweet little girl. It works. Get over it.

Bhruic wrote on Feb 3, 2013, 13:50:
You know what I think is racist? Suggesting there's such a thing as "cliched African-American slang" (not accusing Blue, just the people making the argument). If they'd stop assuming that's how black people talk, then maybe they stop being so damn offended when non-black people talk like that.

Fuck, if they are going to be this idiotic, why not go after Eminem? Damn white guy stealing black people's music! Here's a tip you idiotic "I see racist people!" motherfuckers... Just because a certain portion of one type of people do something doesn't make it racist if a non-"type" person does it too. Stop trying to be fucking offended by everything!

Dev wrote on Feb 2, 2013, 01:09:

netnerd85 wrote on Feb 2, 2013, 00:44:
Valve do need a good, hard, smack - about users legal rights. Their ninja-tiger grip on PC DRM has gone far enough.

There's this thing called GoG.

InBlack wrote on Feb 1, 2013, 10:52:

Cutter wrote on Feb 1, 2013, 10:17:
I'm so tired of this BS. This is what I posted to HuffPo.

Hogwash. You people need to read more history. I'm a historian so that gives me an advantage in this matter. The universe is a violent place, period. Evolution is predicated on killing. Hell, even plants and trees do it. We all grew up with Bugs Bunny and pals. Ho many of you ever dropped an anvil on someone's head or bashed it in with a frying pan?

And prior to that we had books - including the bible which is rife with violence. Prior to books we had oral tradition which told stories about great battles of old and violent heroes. Just take a quick look at the list of battles by casualties on Wikipedia and tell me that somehow we're more violent now than we were then. Fact is, we're a hell of a lot less violent and violent crime has been going down for decades now. But why let the facts stand in the way of sensationalist claims? There isn't one single study that proves video games create violent people. In fact most legitimate studies show the exact opposite to be true. They help people blow off steam in a harmless way. Much like you might imagine shooting your boss. It's one thing to dream about it and another to do it.

If anything is dangerous, it's the culture of pervasive paranoia and the hero-warrior culture being cultivated in America that are the real dangers. And this manufactured consent is done by the military-industrial complex to ensure a stead supply of enemies and profits. Why do these marines never once speak to the fact that soldiers have the duty and obligation to ask if what they're doing is moral. And that being the case how has any American soldier since WWII ever justified his participating in the invasion of other sovereign nations? I don't see any concern for these common place practices that smack of hegemony, not liberty.

There are always going to be crazy people. And there are always going to be angry people who get pushed beyond their breaking point. We all have them and whether you've ever played a video game or not at that point won't make a single iota of difference.

Exactly. Adding guns into the mix only makes the whole fucking situation more volatile. People keep mentioning how guns are their right, because they will protect them from an opressive government.

WAKE THE FUCK UP? Do you really think that handguns and rifles will protect you from armored APCs, gunship helicopters, micro drones, tanks, and the whole combined might of the US military if push comes to shove???

Beamer wrote on Feb 1, 2013, 10:05:

RollinThundr wrote on Feb 1, 2013, 09:53:

Darks wrote on Feb 1, 2013, 09:18:
No matter what they do, Gun control will never fix this. We are all engrained with killing, this all goes back to Cain killing his brother with a rock. We are all dammed in this way. Someone will always find a tool for the job, whether it be a gun or a knife or axe. Taking away guns will only make them look elsewhere for the weapons, and all this is doing is promoting a black market for weapons.

One needs to look at Chicago as the prime example of why tough gun laws don't do anything to curb crime. When you take the guns away from law abiding citizens the criminals will be the only ones with them, and liberal utopias like Chicago and Detroit are perfect examples.

Stooooooooooooopid.

Your use of "liberal utopia" makes you one of the biggest trolls ever, but people love to talk about Chicago. As if the gun culture of the US magically avoids Chicago because Chicago is harder on guns. As if it's somehow harder to get guns into Chicago when they're perfectly unrestricted an hour's drive away.

And you've already been proven wrong about how Chicago is "the worst gun violence in the country."



People that bring up Chicago as if it's what would happen if the entire country got more restrictive are idiots. But they're the same idiots convinced that the government wants to ban all the guns, as if anyone has ever proposed that.

Darks wrote on Feb 1, 2013, 09:18:
No matter what they do, Gun control will never fix this. We are all engrained with killing, this all goes back to Cain killing his brother with a rock. We are all dammed in this way. Someone will always find a tool for the job, whether it be a gun or a knife or axe. Taking away guns will only make them look elsewhere for the weapons, and all this is doing is promoting a black market for weapons.

Cutter wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 16:48:

RollinThundr wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 16:30:

Cutter wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 14:55:
Well where on earth is Rolling Thunder when it's a GOP politician spouting this crap?

It's bullshit no matter what side of the aisle it's spewing from, that should be common sense.

I just find it amusing that when it's a democrat doing it how you rail on about the evils of liberals, but when he's GOP you don't say a word.

Slick wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 15:06:

Cutter wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 22:44:

Slick wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 21:39:
Yes, pushing developers to make unrealistic release dates is stupid.

EA is dumb for doing this, not evil mind you, just really really dumb.

in a pragmatic approach, they're fucking their own bottom line by not understanding the way games are made, because some suit who's never visited a development studio says: "you know what'll save us money? just have them make the whole game in 1/3rd the normal development time!"

that's dumb, EA is stupid when they push dates like this.

and it's all because they got super butthurt by looking at CoD sales, and the green envy monster just destroyed the MoH franchise.

EA is dumb for doing shit like this, not evil. different. things.

No, they're evil because their motivation is quick returns for minimal output. They know what happens when you shove unfinished games out the door. They're not dumb, just greedy, which makes them evil.

you're confusing evil with short-sighted impulsive behavior. trust me, these two ideas can co-exist as separate things, i'm an expert.

EA is a private company, who's only reason to exist is to make money, welcome to capitalism. if that's evil to you then may i suggest one of the other successful market ideologies on the planet.

for them to stumble in their effort to make money by wanting to make more money faster isn't evil, it's just as you said, greed.

you can't see things for their true nature and still judge them as good and evil like some omnipotent deity. there are evil things in this world, we're not short of that. you mock the really bad shit when you put videogame publishers holding unrealistic launch dates for their products in the same league as people who spread hate and fear and war. you're just using hyperbole to try and get your point across, it carries no weight.

Cutter wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 14:55:
Well where on earth is Rolling Thunder when it's a GOP politician spouting this crap?

CrimsonPaw wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 12:43:

theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 12:28:
Wow, they managed to fuck that up good and proper. The game will be drowned out by all the hype of the next-gen consoles, which will already be out by the time a PC release appears (if it even does). The lack of gameplay footage is just the nail in the coffin.

Then again, those who game on consoles are happy with 720p @ 30fps with shit graphical quality and gamepads... so I'm sure they'll be lining up to buy it. Gaming on console is like listening to all your music on cassette tape... it's fine if that's all you can afford but some of us have higher standards.

Ummmmm, it's GTA - I think the console releases will go hand-in-hand with the hype. As for gameplay footage, I don't think a GTA game since III has come out where they show ANY gameplay outside of 2 or 3 months of release. And while I am a PC gamer, there is some satisfaction that comes from the "it just works" stance of consoles. There's nothing more frustrating that getting a new PC game and finding you have driver issues or need to research a fix for problems you're having. I love the depth of PC gaming, but really like the simplicity of consoles.

Cutter wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 02:33:

jimnms wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 23:13:
Can we please get these old senile fuckers out of congress and get some term limits!

I know right? Seeing Kerry retire after 29 years and talk about how the Senate isn't broken is laughable at best. I've never understood how the prez can only have 2 terms but the sky is the limit for everyone else. Forget spending caps by lobbyists and everything else before term limits are discussed. Forget six years too. It should be a max of two four year terms. Then you might see some stuff actually getting done.

Cutter wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 04:36:
Feel sorry for the kids who have to get brainwashed in cults like that.

Verno wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 15:41:

RollinThundr wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 15:31:
Bunch of anti-Valve rhetoric

Now we get the truth here, you don't care about EA, you just think people are too kind to Valve. I don't really care much one way or the other about Valve and I don't think you're some special snowflake who views the industry different than the rest of us. Valve just screws the consumer less and is in the news less for it. They have built up good will by creating value and being very consumer friendly in their decisions, there is no magical component to this. They don't exactly take victory laps of their steam sales either, Valve is generally very uncommunicative compared to other companies.

People will swing the other way on Valve when they start getting into the kinds of shit EA is. For example I saw plenty of criticism when they added the no class action revision to their EULA. So relax, Valve will gets it comeuppance if it deserves it.

By the way, of course everyone wants to make money, its all about HOW they do it that matters to people.

Yakubs wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 15:19:

KS wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 11:26:
The quest system wouldn't be so bad if people could easily share quests. Unfortunately, it adheres to a rigid prerequisite system where almost every quest is a step in a long chain.

So you can only share a quest if that person has done the immediately previous quest, which is never the case.

Basically you have to arrive at an outpost with quests at the exact same time as someone else.

This exacerbates the need for soloability, thus dumbing down the game, making the online group feature even more irrelevant.

The fun is in groups -- why do these games do this? As de facto single-player games, they are terrible.

Well, it's very difficult to make a dynamic and fun grouping system, is why. I mean, look at a game that went the opposite direction - Guild Wars 2. Their idea of "quests" are showing up at Heart locations on the minimap and doing the very same "kill x" or "gather y" quests that suck in any other game -- the only difference being you're automatically cooperating with other people in the same area.

I don't really know of an MMO that has an innovative quest system since WoW.

Verno wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 15:23:

RollinThundr wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 15:18:
I do get it, hell I've given EA plenty of my own shit over the years as well, but it doesn't get old to you when people use the same tired excuses to bash EA for the sake of it?

Has nothing to do with this trend of yours to pull the "Boosnews is so negative and unfair!!" crap that people tend to do when they don't like the discussion content. It's being discussed because its in the news and its news because they keep making boneheaded decisions. EA had good press for a few years when they were making original IP again and started actually caring about their ports. People don't do it with Activision because there is a lot less of it to talk about. When they were murdering Guitar Hero and not patching fucked up ports people were bitching plenty.

Take Origin for example, it's essentially steam but people hate it and swear to never use it simply because EA's name is attached.

Different topic for a different discussion. I think EA has given people plenty of reason to distrust a digital client effort though whereas Valve has historically done the opposite. Acting as if everyone should just ignore the history of the companies behind the products themselves is not only unrealistic but poor consumer decision making. So while I don't personally care much one way or the other about Origin, it's easy to see why some people do.

Verno wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 15:01:

RollinThundr wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 14:58:
Why would I blame Blue for poster's content? I get it, most of you think EA is satan incarnate as a company. It's old at this point, as much as my bitching about bitching is old.

No you don't get it, you're just continually ignoring whats said to you. EA isn't satan anymore than Activision is but they do plenty of dumb shit to get themselves into gamers bad graces and the news. Have a problem with it? It starts with them, not the users. No one is making you click on the comments here and read about it either.

Verno wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 14:56:

RollinThundr wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 14:32:
Thinking EA will actually ban people for not reporting bugs is pretty ridiculous to begin with but it wouldn't be BN without a daily bitch about EA thread.

Uh, it is pretty reasonable to think they might do something they put into an EULA and people have EULA issues with many other companies other than EA. Blue posts news, if you have a problem with the news then tell EA to stop making boneheaded decisions. Your bitching is just as much noise as anything else.