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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
300. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 20:59 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 20:50:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 20:12:
Since you missed it the first time. This is what's going on in the streets of London. To think your leaders could have stopped it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN6CHtGGo4g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYFzrEIzoHE

Religious nuts want to force people to follow their rules. What else is new? Luckily that's not the way things work.

The unfortunate thing is Brits feeling unsafe in London. This is what happens when you allow immigration to go unchecked.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
297. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 20:35 RollinThundr
 
jdreyer wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 20:23:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 09:44:

I've said before multiple times, slimming down the military and cutting wasteful spending across ALL facets of government is the right thing to do. And it's something that HAS TO HAPPEN. It's not my fault you lefties pick and choose from what people actually say.

If the founding father's never intended us to have a standing army what do you think the term well regulated militia means?
The Second Amendment states:
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms has been recognized by the General Government; but the best security of that right after all is, the military spirit, that taste for martial exercises, which has always distinguished the free citizens of these States....Such men form the best barrier to the liberties of America" - (Gazette of the United States, October 14, 1789.)

"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334,[C.J.Boyd, Ed., 1950])

"The right of the people to keep and bear...arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country..." (James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434 [June 8, 1789])

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244)

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how to use them." (Richard Henry Lee, 1788, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights, Walter Bennett, ed., Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republican, at 21,22,124 (Univ. of Alabama Press,1975)..)

I mean shit, how much more clear does it need to be?

Obviously not clear to you. You're quoting justification for militia and the right to bear arms. That's different from having a standing army:

A militia generally refers to an army or other fighting force that is composed of non-professional fighters; citizens of a nation or subjects of a state or government that can be called upon to enter a combat situation, as opposed to a professional force of regular soldiers.

1. See the difference? A militia is not a standing army.
2. No one said anything about restricting the right to keep and bear arms. You are defending a straw man.
3. As long as we're quoting James Madison:
A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.


And what do we have now? An overgrown Executive branch. Thank you Eric Holder and Barack Obama.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
295. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 20:12 RollinThundr
 
Quboid wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 19:44:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 19:39:
Quboid wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 19:30:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 19:27:
You might need to brush up on what an arbitration court is before we have this conversation.

Two people go to a respected member of their community whom they both trust to settle a dispute. WE'RE DOOMED.

It's not needed in the first place. If they live in Brittan theres this little thing called British law.

Why go to that expense? Do you think this is somehow unique to Muslims? Or for that matter, do you think it's ubiquitous for Muslims? Do you think it's obligatory for Muslims?

If they don't like the decision then they can take it to court unless they signed a legal document before the arbitration to make it binding. In either case, it's British law.

Edit: You're far from the only person to confuse the names here. There is an excellent video here which explains even more than I knew. Anyone living in Northern Ireland - in the UK but not Britain - knows more about this than most.

Since you missed it the first time. This is what's going on in the streets of London. To think your leaders could have stopped it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN6CHtGGo4g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYFzrEIzoHE
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
292. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 19:39 RollinThundr
 
Quboid wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 19:30:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 19:27:
You might need to brush up on what an arbitration court is before we have this conversation.

Two people go to a respected member of their community whom they both trust to settle a dispute. WE'RE DOOMED.

It's not needed in the first place. If they live in Brittan theres this little thing called British law.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
288. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 19:26 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 19:18:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 18:49:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 18:16:
From what I've read it sounds like there are arbitration courts that handle civil matters. They still need to be in line with British law. Jewish communities have had arbitration courts like this in England for over 100 years and yet haven't overridden British law yet.

Nobody here in the U.S. is worked up about Judge Judy and Judge Mathis running arbitration courts. Why should I care if Judge Hakeem runs his own arbitration court with a sharia grounding.

Right Seph, and there are more extreme elements pushing for outright Shira. Incidentally read some of the horror stories about those arbitration courts. Women still tend to be treated like sub human.

They can push all they want it's not going to happen. And worrying about it happening is crazy.

I will concede that women are not treated equally. They're not treated equally in many religions and societies. The nice thing about the U.K. and United-States and most "western" countries is that all people are afforded rights by the state including women. They are not the property of their husbands. They are free to leave their husbands, to divorce them, and if their religion or culture does anything criminal or anything that abridges their rights the state should intervene and the perpetrators will find themselves in real criminal court. I can't say I find much sympathy for people "forced" to wear hijab or follow sharia law in the U.S. or U.K. ... They're not forced, they do so to appease their religion, a religion they can freely leave.

Right and then they go to one of those arbitration courts and Brit law is ignored. If you immigrate to a country, respect their laws and live by them. Don't try to subject your culture on the host country.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
284. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 18:49 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 18:16:
From what I've read it sounds like there are arbitration courts that handle civil matters. They still need to be in line with British law. Jewish communities have had arbitration courts like this in England for over 100 years and yet haven't overridden British law yet.

Nobody here in the U.S. is worked up about Judge Judy and Judge Mathis running arbitration courts. Why should I care if Judge Hakeem runs his own arbitration court with a sharia grounding.

Right Seph, and there are more extreme elements pushing for outright Shira. Incidentally read some of the horror stories about those arbitration courts. Women still tend to be treated like sub human.

 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
282. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 18:12 RollinThundr
 
Quboid wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 18:10:
I said you are only worth mocking or ignoring. Talking about Sharia law in the UK is very much in the 'ignore' category. You know effectively nothing about the US never mind abroad. Likewise, you obviously know effectively nothing about economics with claims about 100% fact about a sweeping generalisation and is as far removed from reality as the rest of your comments.

Like I said, keep those fingers in your ears while reality passes you by. Like a good lil lefty trusting the government to watch over you.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
280. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 18:01 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 17:59:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 17:55:
Or are you fine with Sharia law trumping British law in England?

Didn't know they instituted that.
You should update this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_by_country

You're aware there are Sharia courts already in Brittan correct? Only a matter of time.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
278. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 17:55 RollinThundr
 
Quboid wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 17:29:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 16:22:
Quboid wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 16:06:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 16:02:
just the rich elite and the rest of us poor. Maybe that's the equality those on the left strive for.

Ah yes, the left and their tax cuts for the rich and sod the poor. Just look at those Occupy folks and their demands for the financial services to be cut some slack. You're funny.

Yeah there are zero rich democrats in the world. I forgot you live in liberal/labour fantasy land. What part of the way we're going isn't sustainable isn't getting through that empty skull of yours?

OWS.. LOL what a joke. Funded by Soros. Weren't you one of the ones bitching about the Tea Party's funding?

I was just pointing out how ridiculous it is to complain about lefties pushing financial inequality. Your response has nothing at all to do with this and neither does Occupy's actual (complete lack of) credibility, that they exist makes a mockery of your "rich and the poor" suggestion.

Incidentally, Occupy was reported as a sort of left-wing Tea Party. Yes, they were ridiculous. Sort of like the Tea Party. I don't know about their funding and I don't remember ever questioning the Tea Party's funding here although I may have. So? I don't support Occupy, I know you struggle to understand that all liberals aren't the same but we're not.

Unlike the TP causing the shutdown, international finance isn't simple and you're not worth trying to explain this to. I think you're a racist idiot and you're only really worth mocking or ignoring.

Of course you do, everyone who doesn't think minorities are victims are obvious racist! Fact of the matter is, it's 100% fact that you can't spend your way to prosperity. That's a point that can't be argued because it's flat out impossible to do.

The TP alone didn't cause the shut down, Obama's inability to reach across the aisle certainly doesn't help. If the man would just get serious about working with Congress to pass a budget and actually make a significant effort to cut spending, we wouldn't still be having this conversation half way through his second term.

Still waiting for your reply in the other thread about that immigration problem you have going on over there too. Or are you fine with Sharia law trumping British law in England?
 
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
37. Re: Evening Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 17:21 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 16:50:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 16:04:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 13:49:
Beamer wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 13:39:
And I'm done here.

Does a simple yes or no question challenge you that much? Hell, I'd even be happy with an "I don't know" from you.

He's doing what he always does when he can't debate something, toss out one or two last ad hom attacks and takes his ball to go cry in the corner with.

Um, do you even understand what he's asking and how there's no way to respond?

Plus, c'mon, I just looked through your history (thankfully the only way I can see your posts) and it's full of you being a total doof and going "stop with the ad hom attacks you libtard ahole!"

Which is ironic on about a hundred levels that your 75 IQ can't comprehend.

And there you go again right on cue. It's like you just can't help yourself.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
276. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 16:22 RollinThundr
 
Quboid wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 16:06:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 16:02:
just the rich elite and the rest of us poor. Maybe that's the equality those on the left strive for.

Ah yes, the left and their tax cuts for the rich and sod the poor. Just look at those Occupy folks and their demands for the financial services to be cut some slack. You're funny.

Yeah there are zero rich democrats in the world. I forgot you live in liberal/labour fantasy land. What part of the way we're going isn't sustainable isn't getting through that empty skull of yours?

OWS.. LOL what a joke. Funded by Soros. Weren't you one of the ones bitching about the Tea Party's funding?

This comment was edited on Oct 21, 2013, 16:42.
 
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
35. Re: Evening Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 16:04 RollinThundr
 
D-Rock wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 13:49:
Beamer wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 13:39:
And I'm done here.

Does a simple yes or no question challenge you that much? Hell, I'd even be happy with an "I don't know" from you.

He's doing what he always does when he can't debate something, toss out one or two last ad hom attacks and takes his ball to go cry in the corner with.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
274. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 16:02 RollinThundr
 
Quboid wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 15:43:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 12:37:
It's simple, the TP is pushing for actual debt reform, while the Rinos continue to just cave to Obama, because the majority liberal media continues to blame congress for everything, that's what the low information voters are going to believe. I'm sure that makes some in big business nervous.

Let's see now.
the TP is pushing for actual debt reform - Economic self destruction.
while the Rinos continue to just cave to Obama - Actual, grown-up politics.
majority liberal media - The majority looks liberal when you're on the far right
continues to blame congress for everything - It (the shutdown) is their fault, specifically the TP's.
low information voters are going to believe - Calling them that doesn't make it true. Just painfully ironic.
I'm sure that makes some in big business nervous. - Economic self destruction.
It's simple - Yes. So how come you're so wrong?

Sure let's keep kicking the can down the road and building more and more debt, printing more and more money, causing more inflation while wages don't rise to meet the inflation. That's your big solution. Keep doing what we're doing til there's no middle class left, just the rich elite and the rest of us poor. Maybe that's the equality those on the left strive for. Wouldn't surprise me at this point.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
272. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 13:36 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 13:14:
I wasn't asking you why you thought big business turned on the tea party. I know the answer to that already and explained it to you.

I just told you why. Disrupting the status quo makes big business nervous. As for the rest of the things I mentioned that you consider irrelevant, things don't exist in a vacuum. Policy for example can affect the economy, debt can affect the economy. Shipping jobs to China because big corps like Apple only care about the bottom line affects the economy It's humanly impossible to spend your way to prosperity. It's just not something that is possible.
 
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News Comments > X Rebirth Trailer & LE Details
9. Re: X Rebirth Trailer & LE Details Oct 21, 2013, 13:12 RollinThundr
 
Cpmartins wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 12:53:
Up until X3:Albion Prelude, yeah. They aim to change that, along with the brickwall-like learning curve of the previous games. Can't wait

Thanks for that, consider me interested now in seeing how this turns out.
 
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
30. Re: Evening Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 13:08 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 13:01:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 12:57:
Beamer wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 12:11:

How did I miss this gem?

I've spent a few weeks in both Dubai and Qatar, and several days in Abu Dhabi (where, sadly, I didn't find Nermal), so I'd say I'm quite fine in Muslim countries.

Nice homophobia, though.

Did the locals know that you're gay?

Homophobic -- nope. I've stated before that I have plenty of gay friends. I don't fear them. They're my friends because they respect me and we have common interests. And I respect them as well. I have no interest in their sexual preferences, but I am glad to live in a country where they are free to engage in them.

Do you support that, in this country, they should be free to get engaged? And married?

Also, jesus, "homophobic" does not mean "afraid." Christ, people are so literal sometimes. Most homophobic people aren't afraid of gays. They don't think its contagious or that gay people will murder them. That doesn't make them less homophobic.

Like yourself: using "gay" as an insult (and, irrelevantly, with no real basis.) That's pretty homophobic. Actually, that's basically the definition of it.

You're aware there are states that already have gay marriage right? Gay's getting married isn't going to bring the apocalypse. Tossing around terms like homophobic and racist just because you don't agree with people's opinions is dishonest.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
270. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 12:37 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 12:32:
I'm pretty sure you're just incapable of following a conversation because you basically just did it again...

Here I'll start you off:
"I responded with all of those unrelated topics when you described why big business was upset with the tea party because..."


It's simple, the TP is pushing for actual debt reform, while the Rinos continue to just cave to Obama, because the majority liberal media continues to blame congress for everything, that's what the low information voters are going to believe. I'm sure that makes some in big business nervous.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
268. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 12:28 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 12:21:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 11:36:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 11:22:
Me - Simply describes why big business is turning on the tea party.

RollinThundr - Obama. Obamacare. Holder. Voter fraud. Black panthers. U.S. citizens should be required to show papers. Racist.


Dude you forgot Benghazi, Obama phones, and long form birth certificate.

adhom adhom strawman, adhom strawman.

Healthcare is a service not a tax.

Hillary Clinton on Bhengazi "what difference does it make what and when the president knew what was happening?"
Hillary Clinton on Watergate in 1974 "What did the president (Nixon) know and when did he know it?"

I never claimed to be a birther, another adhom.

There's plenty of evidence supporting both voter fraud and voter intimidation from the democrats. Again take your god damn fingers out of your ears and look at reality.

You just often miss the point and go on an off topic rant... and that was my point.

"Beholden to big business" in this instance is "not destroying the U.S. economy". Big business likes when the tea party talks about deregulation and lower taxes, they don't like when they make credible threats against the economy... That's not good for business.

I just don't see how those lines warranted a response/rant that included Obama, Obamacare, Holder, Voter Fraud, and Black Panthers.

Obama was elected twice on the idea of hope and change sadly he meant none of it yet to people like you and beamer that's perfectly alright, at the end of the day any issues with this administration are because of congress or because of Bush, or because of maybe even Ronald Reagan. The fact that there are now people in politics pushing for actual change and reform and to get back to following what this country was built on and you have issue with it. Calling them stupid, calling them hillbillies and the like. Instead of having actual discussion on ways we can make things better, reduce the debt and protect people's rights. You people don't discuss, you smear and personally attack anything that doesn't fit your ideology.

This administration has proven time and time again they're pretty fucking corrupt, that too is also ok because democrats are wrongly pumped up as being for the people, which they aren't, they're beholden to big business and their campaign contributors and lobbyist as much as any other political entity.

It's just pointing out the hypocrisy that people like you display on a daily basis.
 
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News Comments > X Rebirth Trailer & LE Details
6. Re: X Rebirth Trailer & LE Details Oct 21, 2013, 11:43 RollinThundr
 
Do the X games still have that shitty flight mechanics that feel like your just fighting the controls rather than flying?

Pretty impressive visually here I have to say.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
265. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 21, 2013, 11:36 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 21, 2013, 11:22:
Me - Simply describes why big business is turning on the tea party.

RollinThundr - Obama. Obamacare. Holder. Voter fraud. Black panthers. U.S. citizens should be required to show papers. Racist.


Dude you forgot Benghazi, Obama phones, and long form birth certificate.

adhom adhom strawman, adhom strawman.

Healthcare is a service not a tax.

Hillary Clinton on Bhengazi "what difference does it make what and when the president knew what was happening?"
Hillary Clinton on Watergate in 1974 "What did the president (Nixon) know and when did he know it?"

I never claimed to be a birther, another adhom.

There's plenty of evidence supporting both voter fraud and voter intimidation from the democrats. Again take your god damn fingers out of your ears and look at reality.
 
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