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News Comments > Morning Interviews
36. Re: Morning Interviews Mar 28, 2015, 02:05 TheVocalMinority
 
Verno wrote on Mar 27, 2015, 09:14:
They did so, Cognitive Dissonance kicked in, and Steam became something that "Revolutionised PC Gaming" rather than being annoying DRM and spyware.

This is a really weird, revisionist history sort of comment. People bitched endlessly about Steam when it sucked. In fact most people hated the WON/Steam transition for CS and the HL2 launch, you can find internet archives filled with complaints on various PC sites including this one. People only really liked Steam after it actually started becoming more stable, feature complete and Valve put some effort into the store front side of things.

Valve was not lucky and they didn't really gamble on anything, they built the DD market one piece at a time pretty deliberately. There were many missteps along the way but they're still the best in the market as far as I'm concerned. While EA, Ubisoft and etc have been farting around trying to extract as much money as possible from console owners Valve created a new market on the PC and set some standards that the PC market desperately needed at the time.

Yes people bitched and moaned initially - that's exactly my point. The Commentary typically went something like:
"zOMG what is this BS", then
"I had to install steam to play [game] moan moan bitch bitch"
and finally "OMG Steam is so awesome, it has benefits".

Maybe Steam was so awesome that gamers, once they tried it, found it to be awesome. But I think not. Particularly given this is the pattern for every piece of BS that has come down the pipe since (although the final justification varies).

Oh and nice try Slick, but I think it is you who is the historical revisionist. And Steam - a Telescreen.
 
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News Comments > Morning Interviews
33. Re: Morning Interviews Mar 27, 2015, 08:53 TheVocalMinority
 
DrSquick wrote on Mar 26, 2015, 10:50:
You know what I've been thinking about lately? How did Steam make the first move, because there were so many others that could have done it first. For example, do you remember Gamespy? Before it was a crappy website, it was essentially the only multiplayer server finder. Can you imagine if they had the foresight to start offering games for sale digitally? It would have been a natural fit - I already use Gamespy every day to find servers to play on for these 30 games, why don't I just buy my game here too.

Valve was the only company that COULD have done it - Counterstrike was far and away the biggest game around at the time (performing the important function of keeping lamers off the other game servers) and they made Counterstrike dependent upon Steam. If the CS kiddies wanted to play Counterstrike they had to install Steam. They did so, Cognitive Dissonance kicked in, and Steam became something that "Revolutionised PC Gaming" rather than being annoying DRM and spyware.

If any other company had done it gamers would have refused to buy into it an the company would have been sunk. But of course once Steam succeeded and was seen to be OK other similar services followed and it opened the flood gates for an anti-consumer race to the bottom. Online only DRM, No LAN play or mods etc.

So now that I have explained this you can start thinking instead about how to cure the world of war, or poverty or whatever.
 
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News Comments > Descent: Underground Single-Player Details
17. Re: Descent: Underground Single-Player Details Mar 16, 2015, 04:48 TheVocalMinority
 
Orogogus wrote on Mar 15, 2015, 14:33:
I feel like people on this board are kind of jerks.

FTFY
 
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News Comments > Star Citizen is Huge
106. Re: Star Citizen is Huge Mar 13, 2015, 03:20 TheVocalMinority
 
Jivaro wrote on Mar 12, 2015, 14:29:
At this point, it really seems everyone has their mind made up about how they feel about the game and it's development process. I mean, every thread about this game is essentially the same. It seems like there are mainly 4 different types of people that post in these threads.

1) Haters - May or may not have backed the game. They have their reasons and they tell everyone what they are in every single thread. I don't understand this group at all, just like I didn't understand this same type pre-D3's release. The whole "I hate this and you should too for all these reasons that make complete sense to me...or you're big, fat, ugly, and dumb!" thing just doesn't really make sense to me. It's not that they are absent of facts in their posts, but there sure are a lot of assumptions that go with them.

2) Fans - Backed the game, some REALLY backed it. They have their reasons and they defend them in every single thread. I don't really get this group either, just like I didn't understand this same type pre-D3's release. The whole "I love this and you should too for all these reasons that make complete sense to me... or you're big, fat, ugly, and dumb!" thing just doesn't really make sense to me. It's not that they are absent of facts in their posts, but there sure are a lot of assumptions that go with them.

3) "Wake me up when Squadron 42 is out" - They backed the game to play the single player. The rest of the game is either a bonus or completely irrelevant. Since they won't be able to play the full single player experience all at once for some time, they are basically in hibernation. I myself fit into this group. I only come here because occasionally the "fans" comment on something I am interested in and I go look it up at the official forums. Sometimes I let myself get sucked into the debate of the day. It's not something I am proud of but hey, I am only human.

4) The Disappointed - These are the people that backed the game and for one reason or another wish they hadn't. Honestly, I very much understand this point of view. Lots of things have changed about the game, not all of it means much to many of the backers, and it's obvious the release date is a ways off. Did Roberts ever say that wasn't a possibility, well no..of course not. That doesn't make it any less disappointing. A great many people have absolutely zero interest in beta testing and yet that is essentially all a great many backers feel like they have to look forward to for the foreseeable future. I think a great many of the people that fall into the "Wake me up for Squadron 42" club fall into this last group as well...or will eventually depending on the length of time it takes to arrive.

Did I miss anyone? I mean, I realize there is a 5th group who may or may not have backed the game, look forward to all aspects of the game, and have decided to just sit tight until release...but since they don't post often it's hard to gauge their number.

Yes you did miss a quite significant group that contributes to these threads - the Trolls!
 
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News Comments > Retail Tower of Guns
1. Re: Retail Tower of Guns Feb 19, 2015, 06:11 TheVocalMinority
 
Great Game, also on GOG:
http://www.gog.com/game/tower_of_guns
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
2. Re: THE LAST OF US (Teens React- Gaming). Feb 2, 2015, 10:06 TheVocalMinority
 
I see that there are tons of these sorts of video on youtube (x social group react to y media/tech) and I'm not really sure why they exist. I just don't understand why I should care, or anyone for that matter. Can someone enlighten me? Is there something wrong with me that means I just don't get it? OK maybe that last one is a given....

Transgender octogenarians react to Bakelite radios.
 
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News Comments > Steam for Linux Bug Could Cause Data Loss
2. Re: Steam for Linux Bug Could Cause Data Loss Jan 16, 2015, 23:00 TheVocalMinority
 
The problem with Linux becoming more popular on the desktop is that it is now targeted by windows style malware  
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News Comments > Star Citizen at $69M
44. Re: No stretch goal? Jan 9, 2015, 00:06 TheVocalMinority
 
Minuit wrote on Jan 8, 2015, 16:24:
I thought that his next promise was to change the name to from "Star Citizen" to "Battle Cruiser 3001 AD".

CHRIS ROBERTS
CHRIS ROBERTS
CHRIS ROBERTS

Hey it's worth a try, Chris Roberts vs The Blues News Whiny Bitches would be awesome.
 
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News Comments > $500 Sound Blaster X7 Limited Edition Announced
39. Re: $500 Sound Blaster X7 Limited Edition Announced Jan 7, 2015, 00:17 TheVocalMinority
 
Silicon Avatar wrote on Jan 6, 2015, 14:30:
I have to have an add-in sound card due to my weird motherboard and video combination but in the future I'll just be using the onboard audio.

Creative never updates drivers so if you buy something from them and run into a driver problem, too bad for you.

AFAIK there are driver updates, in fact I'm pretty sure I have updated drivers in my windows drivers archive for some of the Creative cards I've got. However once the Card is superseded they will remove all the driver updates from their web site and legally threaten anyone else who hosts the drivers for download.

Creative would have to be the most anti-consumer company associated with computer games that isn't an out and out scam (and this isnít and industry that is exactly known for it's consumer friendliness). Do not buy their shit people.
 
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
14. Re: Evening Metaverse Jan 3, 2015, 15:02 TheVocalMinority
 
Beamer wrote on Jan 3, 2015, 13:54:
TheVocalMinority wrote on Jan 3, 2015, 11:09:
Beamer wrote on Jan 2, 2015, 21:53:
TheVocalMinority wrote on Jan 2, 2015, 21:27:
Icewind wrote on Jan 2, 2015, 18:21:
Smells like that article was written by an SJW.

I'd imagine if they were a "Social Justice" warrior they should understand the concept of human rights which the first comic gets horribly wrong (a first for XKCD as far as I know). As soon as I saw that I knew the article was going to be complete nonsense. Didn't realise io9 was gawker media.

This is the weirdest, most incorrect opinion I've seen here.

I was sure I was on the Beamer ignore list. Guess not.

If you think this is the weirdest, most incorrect opinion I consider this to be a considerable achievement given the quality of comment I see on this site.

For the most part I couldn't care less if I am wrong (weird I don't get at all, but there you go). However one thing I'm curious about if you will humour me - are you claiming that the XKCD comic is correct insofar as the right to free speech only exists due to its enumeration in Law? Not a fundamental right acquired just through being a human being?

Oh the irony is rich!

The comic says that you can't say something without getting criticism, and no one else has to listen to it.

You say it's wrong.
I say you're an idiot.

You then criticize me and put me on ignore. By your own asinine logic, you just violated my fundamental right by doing exactly what the comic says you're allowed to do, which you said was wrong.

Holy shit, it's terrifying that you don't connect these dots yet you vote.

Wow you are really starting to loose it Beamer! You misinterpreted what I wrote - I don't use an ignore list, assumed I was on yours after a previous exchange. You also attribute claims to me that I never made. I never stated that you can say something without getting criticism, or that ignoring someone is a violation of a fundamental right.

The comic made a very specific claim about the the right to free speech which is wrong - admittedly, on rereading it, not as egregiously as I had remembered - I've mixed it up with a lot of other things in the same vain I've read recently. It strongly implies that the right to free speech only exists as a result of law, and outright states that it only applies to government restrictions on speech (specifically being arrested for what you say).
 
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
9. Re: Evening Metaverse Jan 3, 2015, 11:09 TheVocalMinority
 
Beamer wrote on Jan 2, 2015, 21:53:
TheVocalMinority wrote on Jan 2, 2015, 21:27:
Icewind wrote on Jan 2, 2015, 18:21:
Smells like that article was written by an SJW.

I'd imagine if they were a "Social Justice" warrior they should understand the concept of human rights which the first comic gets horribly wrong (a first for XKCD as far as I know). As soon as I saw that I knew the article was going to be complete nonsense. Didn't realise io9 was gawker media.

This is the weirdest, most incorrect opinion I've seen here.

I was sure I was on the Beamer ignore list. Guess not.

If you think this is the weirdest, most incorrect opinion I consider this to be a considerable achievement given the quality of comment I see on this site.

For the most part I couldn't care less if I am wrong (weird I don't get at all, but there you go). However one thing I'm curious about if you will humour me - are you claiming that the XKCD comic is correct insofar as the right to free speech only exists due to its enumeration in Law? Not a fundamental right acquired just through being a human being?
 
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
4. Re: Evening Metaverse Jan 2, 2015, 21:27 TheVocalMinority
 
Icewind wrote on Jan 2, 2015, 18:21:
Smells like that article was written by an SJW.

I'd imagine if they were a "Social Justice" warrior they should understand the concept of human rights which the first comic gets horribly wrong (a first for XKCD as far as I know). As soon as I saw that I knew the article was going to be complete nonsense. Didn't realise io9 was gawker media.

This comment was edited on Jan 2, 2015, 21:45.
 
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News Comments > Battlefield 4 Server "Strike" Plans
42. Re: Battlefield 4 Server Jan 1, 2015, 23:22 TheVocalMinority
 
Slick wrote on Jan 1, 2015, 20:56:
Cutter wrote on Jan 1, 2015, 19:14:
Heh, why do people do dumb shit? Like continually buy this sort of crap from EA and Actiblizz? It's battered wife syndrome I swear. 'No, this time he'll be different! He's changed, really!'

why do people continually post about things they have no interest in, and add absolutely nothing to the discussion? it's self-important cunt syndrome i swear.

^_^

Because it makes a good counterpoint to all the shills and stupid fanboys?
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
7. Re: Morning Metaverse Dec 31, 2014, 03:34 TheVocalMinority
 
InBlack wrote on Dec 31, 2014, 02:47:
TheVocalMinority wrote on Dec 31, 2014, 02:27:
Suppa7 wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 16:44:
Cutter wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 11:54:
Well stop fucking using social media than and problem solved. Honestly, the way people go on about this shit when there's an such an obvious solution.

People are not free, nor rational. The human mind didn't evolve based on the idea of free choice or free market theory. The human brain simply doesn't work like this. Our society is organized around the philosophical basis that human beings are "free" to "decide" when the evidence is overwhelming in the other camp: That human beings are not free and the whole idea of responsibility is flawed.

I'm really curious about the experience of living with this kind of belief system. Do you get up in the morning and wander through your day with no concept that you are the source of the actions of your body? Are your actions essentially random or deterministically dictated by the world around you? Do you ever deliberate on any topic or possible course of action?

It strikes me largely as a philosophical/political position rather than something rational (although I do like that part of this is the claim that people are not rational as it sets up a very nice paradox). I don't believe the claim of their being evidence of "free will" not existing is really defensible when the concept itself is not particularly well defined, even if a team of neuroscientist have managed to predict, with a statistically signification degree of certainty, the arbitrary action that a person with their head stuck in an nMRI machine will make before the self report of that decision is made (which I think is what your "overwhelming evidence" consists of).

You are oversimplifying. Which Suppa is guilty of too admitedly. The point is that our idea of 'self' is an illusion or rather its something that is very fluid. We do deliberate internaly, we can philosophise and we do have intelligence. It's just that when we do these things we do not really understand our motivations for doing them. Please dont confuse this with choice, we can and frequently do choose but the question is WHY one choice over another. This is much more murkier territory and a very interesting subject in neuroscience.

No I agree it is an interesting research topic (for many disciplines). I was more interested in the claim that the question had been settled, what that actually means, and the context of this sentiment being expressed (i.e. Facebook, and by extension personal privacy).

My thoughts are that, at least to some extent, the self is a social construct (certainly in terms of signifier if not signified - if such a distinction is even meaningful) but I wouldn't use the term "illusion" as it is far to loaded (e.g. the self is worthless, to be dismissed, etc.).
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
5. Re: Morning Metaverse Dec 31, 2014, 02:27 TheVocalMinority
 
Suppa7 wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 16:44:
Cutter wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 11:54:
Well stop fucking using social media than and problem solved. Honestly, the way people go on about this shit when there's an such an obvious solution.

People are not free, nor rational. The human mind didn't evolve based on the idea of free choice or free market theory. The human brain simply doesn't work like this. Our society is organized around the philosophical basis that human beings are "free" to "decide" when the evidence is overwhelming in the other camp: That human beings are not free and the whole idea of responsibility is flawed.

I'm really curious about the experience of living with this kind of belief system. Do you get up in the morning and wander through your day with no concept that you are the source of the actions of your body? Are your actions essentially random or deterministically dictated by the world around you? Do you ever deliberate on any topic or possible course of action?

It strikes me largely as a philosophical/political position rather than something rational (although I do like that part of this is the claim that people are not rational as it sets up a very nice paradox). I don't believe the claim of their being evidence of "free will" not existing is really defensible when the concept itself is not particularly well defined, even if a team of neuroscientist have managed to predict, with a statistically signification degree of certainty, the arbitrary action that a person with their head stuck in an nMRI machine will make before the self report of that decision is made (which I think is what your "overwhelming evidence" consists of).
 
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News Comments > Star Citizen Arena Commander Version 1.0 Released
23. Re: Star Citizen Arena Commander Version 1.0 Released Dec 21, 2014, 22:51 TheVocalMinority
 
Flak wrote on Dec 21, 2014, 18:09:
BN used to be the go-to place for all things PC Gaming, it's now the go-to place to read nonsensical musings of SC haters.
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You're saying that like it's a bad thing...
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
2. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 20, 2014, 06:19 TheVocalMinority
 
A #Gamergate link and no comments about it! What is Bluesnews coming to?

Reread The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies the other day and had to laugh about how much of it relates to #Gamergate...
http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5
 
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News Comments > Elite: Dangerous Refund Policy
151. Open Elite? Nov 21, 2014, 07:09 TheVocalMinority
 
Came across this the other day, haven't played so don't know if it is any good but may scratch and itch for those who want to play an Elite type game offline:
http://www.oolite.org/
 
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News Comments > Far Cry 4 Piracy Perspective
49. Re: Far Cry 4 Piracy Perspective Nov 19, 2014, 10:01 TheVocalMinority
 
Spektr wrote on Nov 19, 2014, 09:10:
I was trying to take KillCrit seriously then I read his post about Ubi Soft's communist action.. Thank you for this moment Sir I hadn't ROFLed for over a decade. Beware of the communist multinationales!

Troll or False Flag Strawman I'm sure.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
20. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 19, 2014, 08:16 TheVocalMinority
 
Every Single Thing About This Gawker Headline Is Click-bait.  
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