Beamer wrote on Jun 17, 2013, 15:51:
Most women that are "bothering" are picking bigger, more vital fights than video games.

And even Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King needed white allies to actually listen to them rather than criticize them on a messageboard.

Parallax Abstraction wrote on Jun 17, 2013, 19:30:
It sold almost 4M copies but the idiots at Square Enix expected it to sell something like 6M. These are the same executives who called Tomb Raider a failure despite it selling more than any previous iteration in franchise history ever did.

Beamer wrote on Jun 17, 2013, 13:18:
Have you seen what this board turns into whenever women and games are mentioned? Probably the only two things there is close to consensus on is Deus Ex and "women needing to shut up." Just search in the sidebar for "sexism" or "feminism" or "tropes." You'll find more than a handful of people comparing women wanting equality to Naziism.

So, if you're a woman, why would you even bother standing up? It's like standing in the Mississippi river and trying to reverse its direction with your hands.

I'm sure plenty of people sat around and said "well, I guess black people deserve equal rights, but until a sufficient amount of them stand up for it, status quo is ok."

Beamer wrote on Jun 17, 2013, 12:06:
And what industries are heavy-gender-leaning against females? Strippers? Hooter's Waitresses?
Even areas that tend to be very female leaning, like fashion and HR, typically have men at the top. How many female fashion designers can you name off the top of your head? How many males?

PHJF wrote on Jun 17, 2013, 11:45:
Or maybe the lack of women here has to do with women not being "hardcore" enough to frequent PC gaming-centered, text-heavy news web sites? Sure a lot of women game nowadays but they don't seem to care about them beyond playing them. It takes a pretty geeky geek to show up here posting diatribes about the fall of id Software or the rise of the MOBA.

mag wrote on Jun 17, 2013, 05:16:
Have you really never been playing TF2 or something and had the pleasure of listening to the way the guys act on voice chat as soon as they hear a female voice? Same in every other game too. Even if it's just a girly Steam userpic or username or whatever the hell.

I will totally buy that most of the ladies really just aren't into shooters and whatnot. But if you witness what happens to the ones that are into them? Holy shit. I would not doubt that the 'community' scares the vast majority of them either away from it entirely, or into hiding.

mag wrote on Jun 17, 2013, 01:58:
You're talking to the guys that think they're just complimenting women when they yell "SHOW US YOUR TITS" and "WILL YOU GO OUT WITH ME" when they meet them in a game. Or see them on youtube. Or pretty much anywhere that doesn't require them to actually talk to girls face-to-face. I think this is going to be lost on them.

Dev wrote on Jun 16, 2013, 03:11:

Prez wrote on Jun 15, 2013, 21:57:
I was just worried that was going to be the FINAL price! Their reasoning for charging that much in Alpha is sound though.

Their final price is going to be like $20 or $30 I think.

Creston wrote on Jun 14, 2013, 10:47:
Maybe he's multiclassed? 8th level Producer, 7th level Thief?

Creston

DG wrote on Jun 7, 2013, 15:58:
Nu-uh, not touching this game again.

I lose too much of my life when I get into a Civ game.

no.

no...

well maybe...

just one more turn......

nin wrote on Jun 7, 2013, 08:58:

Pretty close to my exact experience, though I skipped 2 based on people's comments.

3 really had me scratching my head. Think I played like 2-3 hours before uninstalling it...didn't feel anything like the previous games.