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Re: EA Will |
Mar 11, 2013, 16:08 |
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| Wait what? Where are you getting the 10k players thing from? I'm totally with you that it experienced a huge drop off (most games do naturally but Blizzard games pedigree was longevity and value) but that seems dubious. Is it that old XFire source? It's a good indicator but a poor value to use as an actual statistic. |
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| News Comments > Morning Consolidation |
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Re: Morning Consolidation |
Mar 11, 2013, 15:42 |
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Trevellian wrote on Mar 11, 2013, 15:15:
There are people who flip flopped in reverse of your assumed owners of both took. I found more and more I played my PS3 over the 360 when i still owned both and they both were in working order. And that was soley because of titles like Uncharted and Little Big Planet being far more interesting than anything Microsoft had left in their arsenal.
That describes me pretty well too. I started out with just a 360 and loved it. They were making cool stuff across a variety of genres. Everything from oddball JRPGs to their big name franchises. They had fun stuff on Live like contests, 1 vs 100 and polls where they actually took feedback into consideration. I bought a PS3 when the Slim came around to play a few exclusives and simultaneously Microsoft started buying exclusive DLC instead of making games. Gradually I just got more and more into the PS3 then realized I had paid for a year of Live without even using the Xbox 360. That combined with the ads and other stuff made me sell it. It was kind of silly owning three platforms anyway, way too many games and not enough time. |
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| News Comments > SimCity: Now With 92% Less Crashing; Maxis Walks Back from Offline Comment |
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Re: SimCity: Now With 92% Less Crashing; Maxis Walks Back from Offline Comment |
Mar 11, 2013, 15:08 |
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Well Deqer most of the time I think you're ranting and raving but this time I can definitely see where you're coming from.
I don't mind the idea of renting my games for example on Steam because there are offsets that benefit me. It's a matter of trade offs and they aren't really giving much in return for what they're asking here. The price isn't cheaper, the game itself isn't as comprehensive as previous ones, the online features are largely tertiary and added to justify the larger EA strategy, I can't save/load, there are real risks of EA shutting the game down and etc.
It's a no brainer, they are giving you less and asking for more in every way. I could -almost- get behind it if they let you at least save your city on your damned hard drive in case the servers take a dirtnap or your internet goes out but nope, they had to go balls out bullshit. |
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| News Comments > SimCity: Now With 92% Less Crashing; Maxis Walks Back from Offline Comment |
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Re: SimCity: Now With 92% Less Crashing; Maxis Walks Back from Offline Comment |
Mar 11, 2013, 15:02 |
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I've been playing Tropico 4 as a SimCity replacement and honestly it's not bad. At least it's "Simoleon" stuff related to needs/etc makes more sense and has gameplay impact. It's nowhere near as deep or complex as the old SimCity games but then again neither is SimCity 2013 
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| News Comments > Morning Consolidation |
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Re: Morning Consolidation |
Mar 11, 2013, 14:43 |
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jdreyer wrote on Mar 11, 2013, 14:33:
Techie714 © wrote on Mar 11, 2013, 11:19:
Well the PS4 reveal was a little lack luster, imo.
I agree. All the "features" were things I would never use, and I couldn't imagine too many others using them either.
And the rumored downsides seem pretty big.
The hardware seemed nice though.
What downsides are you referring to?
I thought the game sharing stuff looked pretty slick and badass. Being able to ghost a buddy is almost tapping into the lost couch co-op in an internet age. It was all so seamless and if it functions as advertised then that's a pretty big deal, gaming is inherently social for many people and that's what the 360 got this gen that the PS3 did not for a long time. I could get 100 "share" button presses out of a GTA game alone.
As for video apps and stuff, IE only came to the 360 in the last two years and the rest are ok but I'm not paying for Live to get them. Every BluRay player, Smart TV and etc are doing that now, it's not going to remain a big deal for either console much longer. Even at $30x7 years of ownership you're talking an extra $210 on top of the console asking price. Sure it's not a large amount of money but when your competitors will do it for free, well *shrug*. They got away with it because the PS3 interface was so poor this gen, I'm not sure that will be true this time around. I'm surprised Netflix let them gate it in the first place, some money must have changed hands there.
Skype I can kinda see being useful but I feel like between smartphones and existing Skype devices that market is already served. It is a no brainer since they already spent 8 billion on the company though. As a value add its fine, better than most of the 360 stuff anyway. What Microsoft really has going for it is a fostered sense of brand identity, many people on both sides of the console war will just chooose their side because of marketing and friends list. Really I don't expect a winner either way unless Microsoft busts out some crazy surprises and reverses their strategy of "buy timed DLC and spend a fortune on marketing".
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| News Comments > EA Will "Look Into" Offline SimCity; New Patch Released |
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Re: EA Will |
Mar 11, 2013, 13:35 |
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Porn-O-Matic wrote on Mar 11, 2013, 13:30:
I cannot help but wonder if all this wailing and gnashing of teeth over the always online/multiplayer woes of SimCity would have been greatly diminished if the game had always been advertised as an online experience.
Err, it was advertised as an online experience though. They started into this months ago and people complained and then ignored all of the feedback. |
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| News Comments > Morning Consolidation |
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Re: Morning Consolidation |
Mar 11, 2013, 13:25 |
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| I think people forget that the PS3 sold like 70m systems and the Xbox 360 is only at 76m itself, they are pretty close to parity and I wouldn't declare either one a "winner" this gen. That's despite the PS3 have a higher price tag the majority of the time. In fact this whole gen was really weird thanks to the Wii undercutting everyone. Microsoft made money on the Xbox 360 but it's peanuts compared to their traditional revenue sources and Sony had other products lumped in with the PS3 dragging it down, I'm not sure where it stands on profitability. |
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| News Comments > Morning Consolidation |
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Re: Morning Consolidation |
Mar 11, 2013, 13:00 |
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I was skeptical of Sony's offering but PSN+ really is a better deal regardless of price, they give you a bunch of betas, free (good) games and a bunch of other features. Some of them should have been shipping console features but such is life.
The BingBox 720 needs to bring something other than the Windows 8 Xbox Xperience Powered By Kinect. Some of that game sharing stuff I saw on the PS4 looked pretty great and that stuff is well beyond niche now, LP and things like Twitch are getting pretty big. |
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Re: Morning Consolidation |
Mar 11, 2013, 12:09 |
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The 360 was a dismal failure in terms of exclusives, they started off pretty well and then stopped producing, opting instead to just buy exclusive DLC. The value proposition with Live sucks compared to PSN+ too. They just got a head start and coasted on inertia and cheevos. The only MS franchise I remotely care about is Forza and not enough to buy their next adbox for it. A few of the big players behind the Xbox brand took off as well and it seems like the corporate side of the business keeps creeping into it more and more. They have basically ceded the indie market to Steam at this point too, XBLA and XBLIM are a mess. That's going to have longer term implications if they can't get the audience and devs back.
Sony on the other hand fostered a lot of great 1st party stuff and was pretty good with it after a rocky couple of years. They were pretty consistent. They spent a lot of money on their motion crap and 3D though which hurt them and they were forced to reduce their first party talent quite a bit.
Sony looks like they are correcting most of their mistakes though and are bringing their A game to next gen. The UI we've seen looks great, lots of online functionality and they went beyond Microsoft with the streaming and sharing stuff. They're also bundling a headset with the system (finally) and have ditched Cell which should make cross platform porting concerns a thing of the past. They are certainly making all of the right steps, Microsoft will really need to refocus on the core and compete again, they won't be able to coast on Live next gen. |
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| News Comments > SimCity: Now With 92% Less Crashing; Maxis Walks Back from Offline Comment |
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Re: SimCity: Now With 92% Less Crashing; Maxis Walks Back from Offline Comment |
Mar 11, 2013, 11:43 |
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Well said Creston, the so called vocal minority on forums and comment boards like this one are part of the checks and balances for the industry. There are numerous examples of it working, there is really no reason to keep quiet. Voting with your wallet and talking about it is really the way to go.
That said I'm about SimCity'd out on news, at this point its just free PR for them and there isn't much more to add.
Also deqer, take your meds dude. |
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| News Comments > Tomb Raider Patched |
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Re: Tomb Raider Patched |
Mar 11, 2013, 10:42 |
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| That's a good idea, I wish more companies would do that. Sometimes for modding it's better to stay on a previous version or if you dislike a patch change, etc. |
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| News Comments > EA Adds SimCity Servers; Promises Free Game |
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Re: EA Adds SimCity Servers; Promises Free Game |
Mar 11, 2013, 10:40 |
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| I have to agree with Krovven which is a rarity, a friend of mine is lowly on set tech and he is one of the most specialized and hardest working folk I know. The post production crews work hard I'm sure but it's all symbiotic. |
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| News Comments > Max Payne 3 Steam CD Keys Exhausted |
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Re: Max Payne 3 Steam CD Keys Exhausted |
Mar 11, 2013, 10:38 |
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Krovven wrote on Mar 10, 2013, 20:31:
Gipson wrote on Mar 10, 2013, 20:12:
But not being able to skip cutscenes immediately made me ragequit the New York Minute mode.
There's a "<press Enter logo> Skip" icon in the lower right corner of cutscenes once the next level has loaded in the background.
The trouble is that the loading behavior is inconsistent. Sometimes loads take forever, sometimes they don't without any real rhyme or reason. Seemingly small levels can take 20+ seconds, it's just strange. You're basically just conditioned to keep hammering the button. I had all 30+GB of the game on an SSD which was an improvement but loads still took awhile, presumably due to console limitations. Not a huge deal but it makes some sections tedious and replays especially.
The story is all subjective obviously. Max Payne 3 tells a different kind of story than the previous games which is fine but as a big MP fan I found it a bit disappointing. |
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| News Comments > SimCity: Now With 92% Less Crashing; Maxis Walks Back from Offline Comment |
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Re: SimCity: Now With 92% Less Crashing; Maxis Walks Back from Offline Comment |
Mar 11, 2013, 09:51 |
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finga wrote on Mar 11, 2013, 09:41:
Maybe it'd work some kind of dedicated server model... oh wait, that's what EA actually built. Just run entirely on their own, is all.
We can insist on a single player/offline-only game, but it won't have all the features that Maxis built. Whether you need them or not is one thing, but let's not pretend that everything would still be there without Maxis' servers.
That really depends though, we don't know the level of resources required and just how complex the regional aspects really are. I'm sure EA would like us to believe it can't be done but I'm more inclined to think that it's just control shenanigans on their part. |
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| News Comments > SimCity: Now With 92% Less Crashing; Maxis Walks Back from Offline Comment |
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Re: SimCity: Now With 92% Less Crashing; Maxis Walks Back from Offline Comment |
Mar 11, 2013, 09:27 |
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Capitan wrote on Mar 11, 2013, 09:18:
This is what happens when already large companies try to come up with new ways to make money. The company makes excuses about what is done is for the customer / users best, when in actual is about the come up with ways to "force of money" by the customer / user.
The extension of this will be that the diversity of game ideas will suffer and the games will probably be increasingly unimaginative and mainstream to guarantee an income.
I'm afraid that companies like EA isn't good for the gaming industry at all.
It's an interesting problem, the cost of development has made companies like EA the only resource available if you want to make a traditional AAA quality title. On the other hand there's a legitimate argument to be made about marketing and other support costs helping driving the cost of bringing a title to market too high.
EA has brought some quality titles to the market in the past, Mass Effect, Dragon Age Origins, Dead Space, Mirror's Edge, etc. Unfortunately like Hollywood, they've devolved into playing it safe, even worse they keep seeking new revenue sources and their tactics keep becoming more and more invasive while they justify it as good for the consumer.
As a consumer I don't see anything good for me here. The game isn't cheaper to offset any potential inconveniences, they retain control and can shut down the servers at any time under the guise of "no one plays it anymore". I see some pro-EA posters say that people need to get with the times, everyone has internet blah etc blah. What do I get from this change? Why should anyone accept something that is only good for EA?
I'm sure that hackers will come out with a server emulator... probably one that can be run in the background of the same machine as the game client... and one that will be better since you won't be running against EA's artificial size limitations that they intend to sell "unlocking larger zones" to people.
Assuming it's feasible to reverse engineer in the first place, I'm not sure there is the interest level to bother unfortunately. I haven't heard of any efforts to do so yet.
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| News Comments > SimCity: Now With 92% Less Crashing; Maxis Walks Back from Offline Comment |
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Re: SimCity: Now With 92% Less Crashing; Maxis Walks Back from Offline Comment |
Mar 11, 2013, 09:10 |
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A friend of mine got it from Origin India for $28, I was watching him play it a bit on the weekend in between server maintenance messages. It's really ok, even good at times but you quickly bump up against the size limitations and are constantly shuffling around in the region which seems kinda pointless. From what I could see it's basically a neutered version of the old games with a smaller scope. If you're a nut for anything SimCity then I guess that's fine but even calling it SimCity seems disingenuous. I don't see people getting a lot of mileage out of this, we were bored after a few hours and loaded up Company of Heroes to do some LAN. Cities XL seems more ambitious which is kinda sad.
No more "Your computer is too weak, so we had to use a cloud based server to handle all these computations" crap? And then Will Wright with "Building cities was a fad. Managing a small village, to keep it financially afloat, THATS the new shit"
That was really the lamest excuse, as if they're bankrupting themselves on crazy server setups to "save" you the minor computational resources that you could easily do for your own regions. |
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Mar 11, 2013, 08:58 |
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They should just buy advertising here, geez that's like 8 stories in a week. Let's say all the things we said in the previous topic, LOL.
It is pretty hilarious that they can't even get their own goals and messages straight internally, no wonder the game is a mess. |
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| News Comments > EA Adds SimCity Servers; Promises Free Game |
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Re: EA Adds SimCity Servers; Promises Free Game |
Mar 9, 2013, 22:30 |
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s1mon75 wrote on Mar 9, 2013, 20:31:
By 'Free Game', im sure they mean 'Free DLC for SimCity that would have shipped with the game had it been released 5 years ago'
No, that will come later in the Subways + larger city expansion that everyone knows is coming because EA plans to milk this shit into the ground. The only reason to go this nuts with DRM is to kill any kind of mods in favor of DLC and mine data on the users.
It'll be your choice of a copy of Dragon Age 2 and Medal of Honor or something along those lines. Just adding to the shitshow we've seen so far. Damned shame whats going on EA at these days, I don't know if anyone saw that leaked letter from an employee but even some of them seem to question just WTF management is thinking. There are ways to make money without resorting to this sort of anti-consumer crap, I feel like its a short term gain for long term loss thing and I hope it comes back to haunt them later. |
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Re: Which free game? |
Mar 9, 2013, 15:14 |
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William Usher wrote on Mar 9, 2013, 14:57:
http://tinyurl.com/aufbgnu
http://tinyurl.com/b7dr6hm
Can't be bothered to find more at the moment. Basically it's just EA panicking.
Remember a similar thing happened when they staged that gay protest and then acquiesce to the LBGT community in order to misdirect some of the negative press they were getting? Yeah, it's just more stuff like that...sort of.
Those are pretty damning and makes you wonder about all of the supposedly happy users on their forums and the weirdos we see crop up here from time to time. I'm not surprised but I am disappointed, awhile ago EA made some efforts to curb their DRM usage and try to get away from this sort of behavior. It's a shame to see it all happening again and much worse than before. A public disinformation campaign though, that's just wow, yikes. |
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