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Signed On Feb 26, 2008, 09:31
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News Comments > Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming?
93. Re: Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming? Dec 6, 2013, 09:08 dj LiTh
 
Verno wrote on Dec 6, 2013, 08:51:
Except for the part where you can have apps split on the side of your desktop, or use it for a full search function, or notification center for your desktop. Ya, i'm the one Cherry picking...

That doesn't really counter anything he or others have said here. Sure you can use Snap but Snap mode is a perfect example of how silly and limiting Metro is given the preset sizes and other nonsense. We've baked multitasking down to 2 apps. Searching is something we could all do before and that they arguably made worse in 8.0 through categorization of search results and only fixed in 8.1. Metro also tries to tie itself into several other parts of Windows, everything from file associations to networking. Saying that there are workarounds just misses the point.

The problem with Metro is that it isn't just a start menu replacement. I don't think anyone is that particularly fond of the start menu, it's just familiar ground with some users. The problem with Metro is that they tried to make it something akin to an environment but forgot that the rest of Windows needs to interface with it in a sensible way. Metro's full screen takeover is quite jarring for users, I've actually heard several people liken it to a virus. Traditional controls like drag and drop don't work intuitively between all applications, the UI itself is navigated in ways meant for a tablet and most importantly Metro and the Desktop feel like 2 different modes of using the same machine.

You can't really mesh unlike software interfaces and expect that people will simply adjust, people like consistency in interface design. Microsoft might have to just accept that tablets and phones are designed for different purposes than a desktop PC and design a true interface that accommodates both. In my opinion they really need to include the taskbar, its a fundamental component of Windows. Acting like we didn't just make 20+ years of progress in multitasking is ridiculous too, PCs are not phones and we don't need app suspension for everything.

For those of you with 8.1 can you launch your computer into desktop mode or do you still boot into metro and have to switch?

You can boot directly into desktop mode finally.

Ok, you just lost me here. The search function is superior in 8 vs 7, let alone 8.1. So i'm not getting that arguement at all. As for file associations and networking, the file association is as simple as it has always been to pick what you want to run what type of application or app, for instance Chrome app vs Chrome program, opening a URL. As for networking, i'm a networking guy and i've got my entire house working like clockwork between 2 win7 machines, one 2012 server, one xbmc ran on rasberry pi, and 2 win8.1's so i'm really failing to see what the problem with the networking is, as its actually gotten easier going from win7 to win8.

As for the jarring part, you've got me there, its new. Nothing much else to say about that. Although someone familar with wp8 or win rt on a tablet wouldnt have a problem. Likewise you still have the desktop unhindered with noticeable improvements to file transfering, bootup times, ssd integration, cloud support. Personally i like the power to run any app that a wp8 or winrt tablet can run and still have my desktop. As for metro, i'm a very visually oriented guy, i prefer thumbnails of webpages rather then a directory of links to read through. Its why i installed speeddial2 on chrome.
 
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News Comments > Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming?
90. Re: Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming? Dec 6, 2013, 08:13 dj LiTh
 
dj LiTh wrote on Dec 6, 2013, 08:10:
Redmask wrote on Dec 6, 2013, 07:26:
dj LiTh wrote on Dec 6, 2013, 03:15:
I like how you just completely ignored the part about its much more time intensive and harder to launch a program buried under 4-5 menus on the old start button then it is to use the scroll wheel and click on the Icon (which you can resize).

Continue cherry picking.

No one said the start menu was better but this certainly isn't a good solution either considering that it isn't just an app launcher. I love how you completely ignored the part where I said Metro only succeeds at being an app launcher for enthusiasts. Continue cherry picking.

Except for the part where you can have apps split on the side of your desktop, or use it for a full search function, or notification center for your desktop. Ya, i'm the one Cherry picking...
 
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News Comments > Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming?
89. Re: Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming? Dec 6, 2013, 08:13 dj LiTh
 
Redmask wrote on Dec 6, 2013, 07:26:
dj LiTh wrote on Dec 6, 2013, 03:15:
I like how you just completely ignored the part about its much more time intensive and harder to launch a program buried under 4-5 menus on the old start button then it is to use the scroll wheel and click on the Icon (which you can resize).

Continue cherry picking.

No one said the start menu was better but this certainly isn't a good solution either considering that it isn't just an app launcher. I love how you completely ignored the part where I said Metro only succeeds at being an app launcher for enthusiasts. Continue cherry picking.

Ignore, double posts.
 
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News Comments > Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming?
88. Re: Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming? Dec 6, 2013, 08:10 dj LiTh
 
Redmask wrote on Dec 6, 2013, 07:26:
dj LiTh wrote on Dec 6, 2013, 03:15:
I like how you just completely ignored the part about its much more time intensive and harder to launch a program buried under 4-5 menus on the old start button then it is to use the scroll wheel and click on the Icon (which you can resize).

Continue cherry picking.

No one said the start menu was better but this certainly isn't a good solution either considering that it isn't just an app launcher. I love how you completely ignored the part where I said Metro only succeeds at being an app launcher for enthusiasts. Continue cherry picking.

Ignore, double posts.
 
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News Comments > Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming?
86. Re: Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming? Dec 6, 2013, 03:15 dj LiTh
 
Redmask wrote on Dec 5, 2013, 19:27:
Using the mouse is fine because you don't have to use the mouse and keyboard shortcuts exist? Seems like a pretty backwards discussion here. Hot corners are stupid, waving the mouse in the upper right to get the bar is really poor design for the input methods here. I thought we moved past horizontal mouse scrolling in apps too but metro is like going back to early web design. Basic functionality windows users have relied on for years like dragging and dropping between apps, minimizing tasks and so on are all hampered by poor discoverability and bad design.

No one is saying enthusiasts can't adapt to it. They're saying its shitty design.

I like how you just completely ignored the part about its much more time intensive and harder to launch a program buried under 4-5 menus on the old start button then it is to use the scroll wheel and click on the Icon (which you can resize).

Continue cherry picking.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
19. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 5, 2013, 18:26 dj LiTh
 
RIP Nelson Mandela  
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News Comments > Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming?
72. Re: Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming? Dec 5, 2013, 16:29 dj LiTh
 
BitWraith wrote on Dec 5, 2013, 16:04:
Verno wrote on Dec 5, 2013, 08:39:

Things Metro does poorly:

- Mouse use is a nightmare

Sorry, not buying this. I've been using it since launch. I had never used the preview build they put out, so launch was my first experience. Mouse works fine in metro. The mouse wheel scrolls it left and right, and the buttons are nice and large.

I can generally launch an app quicker using metro than I could using the start menu. I don't have to hunt around in a convoluted folder structure. Windows key, and it's right there on my screen.

Honestly i gotta agree, me launching an app/program has not changed from Win7 for me. I hit winkey, then i type a few letters then i hit the enter button, works everytime without fail. As for using the mouse, its a lot easier to find an program in the list rather then burried under 3-5+ folders from the win7 start screen.
 
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News Comments > Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming?
62. Re: Windows/Xbox Convergence Coming? Dec 5, 2013, 04:21 dj LiTh
 
Ahhh yes, the vocal minority. We're gonna use Linux, We're gonna use OSX, We're gonna use SteamOS, as you all type from your Windows OS's. Whether you keep 7, have 8/8.1 or waiting for 9 or 10 or whatever, the only thing that is constant is that your always going to be running a windows OS if your serious about gaming.  
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News Comments > 100 More Steam Greenlights
7. Re: 100 More Steam Greenlights Dec 5, 2013, 04:00 dj LiTh
 
Since they're just throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks, and that seems to be everything, how about a list of what didnt make it? If that even exists..  
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News Comments > Desert Strike TMed
5. Re: Desert Strike TMed Dec 3, 2013, 12:14 dj LiTh
 
Xero wrote on Dec 3, 2013, 11:15:
I remember Jungle Strike and Urban Strike for the Sega Genesis and Game Gear systems back in the day. Flying around a chopper in an isometric view while trying to line up your bullets to take down towers and tanks and what not. Good fun for it's time even when it was a biatch to control the chopper's movements, lol.

Yes! Had everyone of those, absolutely loved it as a kid!
 
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News Comments > Path of Exile Status, Packs, and Patch
5. Re: Path of Exile Status, Packs, and Patch Dec 3, 2013, 11:34 dj LiTh
 
I got a lvl 62 Scion on Nemesis, prolly bought 50$ worth of items from their shop (mostly bank space lol). They deserve all the success and money they can get! I'm really looking forward to seeing this game grow and evolve and create new acts to play!  
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News Comments > Steam Breaks 7M Concurrent Users
23. Re: Steam Breaks 7M Concurrent Users Dec 2, 2013, 16:56 dj LiTh
 
Fallen Enchantress Legendary Heroes is on sale @ Humble Bundle for 9.99 (or like 7euro) which is cheaper then the 50% off steam has for it if your interested.  
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News Comments > Total War: ROME II Caesar in Gaul Next Week
10. Re: Total War: ROME II Caesar in Gaul Next Week Dec 2, 2013, 16:52 dj LiTh
 
Honestly i find this a little ridiculous considering the state of Rome2. They should offer this free for people who preordered and heavily discounted for anyone who's bought rome2 up until now. I for one wont be getting this for atleast a year, if at all.  
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News Comments > Steam Top 10
40. Re: Steam Top 10 Dec 2, 2013, 03:27 dj LiTh
 
Uh ya skyrim....good stuff.... <backs away slowly>  
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News Comments > State of Decay Breakdown Released
3. Re: State of Decay Breakdown Released Nov 30, 2013, 18:22 dj LiTh
 
Acleacius wrote on Nov 30, 2013, 14:04:
Give us a report on the DLC. I was holding off, since it sounded like Challenge events, which sounded like more spam spawning.

So far i havent gotten to the expansion, as after the game launches, at the menu you pick which to play. I'm still working through the base game and so far i'm absolutely loving it! Will report though when i get to it
 
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News Comments > GeForce 331.93 Beta Drivers
21. Re: GeForce 331.93 Beta Drivers Nov 30, 2013, 12:45 dj LiTh
 
So far, beta drivers pretty great. Very stable. No crashes.  
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News Comments > Open-World Star Wars Game Clues
5. Re: Open-World Star Wars Game Clues Nov 30, 2013, 12:44 dj LiTh
 
"a major new next gen action game"

These arent the droids your looking for.
 
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News Comments > State of Decay Breakdown DLC Delay?
19. Re: State of Decay Breakdown DLC Delay? Nov 30, 2013, 03:15 dj LiTh
 
El Pit wrote on Nov 30, 2013, 02:47:
dj LiTh wrote on Nov 30, 2013, 01:55:
So i'm going to give these drivers a try, as i seem to have way less issues with drivers on my two 460's then whats being reported by most of you. Also of note i only ever install physx and the driver, and never 3d, audio, or nvidia experience. Maybe that has something to do with my system being more stable (just guessing). Anyways i'll report back my findings, as i'm also playing through blackflag and the new SLI profile will be welcome.

Obi Wan says: This is not the thread you're looking for.

Oops! lol how the hell did that happen? Lol
 
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News Comments > State of Decay Breakdown DLC Delay?
17. Re: State of Decay Breakdown DLC Delay? Nov 30, 2013, 01:55 dj LiTh
 
blah wrong thread /ignore

This comment was edited on Nov 30, 2013, 03:15.
 
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News Comments > GeForce 331.93 Beta Drivers
20. Re: GeForce 331.93 Beta Drivers Nov 30, 2013, 01:51 dj LiTh
 
Even though my current 331.58 drivers are stable, i'm going to give these a try as i'm playing Blackflag on my two 460's. Also i seem to have way less driver issues then a lot of you guys, not sure why. Maybe has to do with that i only install the driver and physx, and not the 3d or audio or nvidia experience crap (just guessing?). Anyways will report back in a day with my findings.  
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