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Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic Jedi Consular Trailer |
Nov 27, 2011, 03:41 |
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Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Nov 27, 2011, 02:58:
Veterator wrote on Nov 27, 2011, 02:50:
Is it a stress test or beta test?
Both. It simply depends on whether or not you were invited to the 'weekend' login server stressing, or if you're still a part of the long-term beta testing group. There's people from both groups in this thread. But there's still enough problems from what I've been reading it's still in a beta state, and there's still enough problems that they're going to have to seriously step it up for the stress testing to get close to a stable point.
Yeah, but I was trying to point out that having extra people around beyond a 36-48 hour period isn't exactly hurting them when they have more than one goal to achieve. Stressing and content testing are still needed. Stringing people along and then having people act like you owe the company a favor (or a dollar) for the treatment is a tad too much.
It's kinda like inviting everyone to see a movie for free while they test seating and aisle flow during a fire alarm drill. You think you get to see a movie, they think they'll get a shitload of people in the place and pull the alarm after 5-15 minutes into the movie and thanking them for their participation and sending them on their way. And can't figure out why that's rather irritating to the 500 people who showed up for a free movie.
Well we SAID it was a fire drill and a free movie, kids these days thinking we're going to let them actually enjoy something while we get our testing done for free using them. |
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| News Comments > Star Wars: The Old Republic Jedi Consular Trailer |
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Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic Jedi Consular Trailer |
Nov 27, 2011, 02:50 |
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Doombringer wrote on Nov 26, 2011, 07:08:
It's a stress test. The game launches in less than a month! Criminey. They're not going to give you weeks of beta access so you can burn out and not buy the retail product. If your friends are fans, and your experience with the beta has been relatively positive, then tell them to buy the game when it's out.
These kids nowadays... it's like "beta test" means "free game."
Is it a stress test or beta test? Stress test to me means content is generally done and you are checking to see if the any changes need to be made on the server side to better cover the load from player surges.
Beta test means the general concept and content of the game is there, late phase beta (1 month away) should be minor balance tweaks and quest fixes that the game could live without fixing before launch. But generally late phase beta/stress test phase = 99.99999% retail content. I am sure most people are convinced that there's a miracle patch to cover every problem before launch, but it never comes.....ever.
Now if this is a beta, they need more eyes testing it because there are problems with lag (still), prior to this weekend and during it. Lack of content at 30+ levels. Lack of content for PVP instancing. Unpopular mechanics (expensive re-rolls, and no changing of advanced class). Poor crafting systems overall, people had disappearing recipes on log out..that's assuming the stuff is worth making in the first place generally it's not.
If this is a stress test, they still have lag problems. A short period of holiday weekend players with a couple days notice prior via email to let them know when they could login. The turn out would have been higher if people hadn't been given short notice and didn't have holidays to contend with. Not to mention all of the driver issues people will experience with the game, as with all modern games.
It's the same argument people use in game. How do you test a game without playing the game? If you say "Im playing the game" someone out there says "You're doing it wrong! You're supposed to be testing!" Hell I used to test games from Sierra, tested Everquest and many other MMOs. If you aren't playing it like a game, I think you're doing something wrong. As for beta tests = free game, they used to send me copies of the games I tested for free after it launched. So.....they are getting more bang for their buck getting you to shell out for the game after it launches and all that free labor in beta. I guess kids these days have gotten used to being taken advantage of and looking at it as an "opportunity".
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| News Comments > Star Wars: The Old Republic Jedi Consular Trailer |
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Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic Jedi Consular Trailer |
Nov 27, 2011, 02:13 |
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It's Star Wars. How many of you went to all 3 of the prequel trilogies hoping it'd get better?
Just because it has a lot of interest before there's any real information about it doesn't mean it's good enough to have staying power.
But yes, I look at this weekend only beta event with how short it was as Age of Conan and Tortage all over again. While not as drastic, the story content in SWTOR is noticeably lighter at the upper levels. And the flashpoints are not at all voiced over beyond Esseles and Black Talon, the initial blurb at the beginning is voiced. But I have yet to find one where inside the outcome is changed via dialog, it uses tradeskills to bypass sections and what not. No dialog. There was also no special commendations per flashpoint anymore, they were level appropriate planet commendations.
Would have given them usage of my beta account if it wasn't tied to my Origin account and all the info and such that comes with that.
I predict 1-1.5 million subscribers in the first month or two. And server merges in less than a year probably more like 6-8 months, at least 30% probably more like half of the servers especially on the PVP servers.
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| News Comments > Star Wars: The Old Republic Jedi Consular Trailer |
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Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic Jedi Consular Trailer |
Nov 26, 2011, 05:39 |
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Asmo wrote on Nov 26, 2011, 03:15:
No one twists their arms to come in, it's a beta test and it's voluntary to help Bioware test their systems...
If you've paid for access to a beta product you have expectations of something higher (eg. minecraft), not when the offer to test isn't dependent on you buying something.
Plus I'm sure there are millions of other nuts who would be more than willing to take their keys... =)
Been playing over this w'end and I'm surprised at just how stable the build is. There are certainly still a few rough edges to polish off ( I wish the UI was unlockable and configurable) but generally it's been a pretty fine experience.
Oh there's technical nothing wrong with what you say. Beta being voluntary, but they don't tell them before they download when they will test or how long that test will be. So they download that 20-30 gigs of data and wait. One waited almost 3 weeks to hear when he would be allowed in after being told he'd be taken in soon. Starts Saturday at noon, I am not even sure he knows it ends Sunday and he's out again after that.
As for giving away your key, once it's used it's tied to an Origin account created at the same time you created your SWTOR beta account. If you use your existing Origin account it's linked to all your purchases and CC info, etc. So you can't just give that account to someone else without basically giving the other person your street address at a minimum, game collection and purchasing info otherwise. And THAT is not even really clear either that your SWTOR account is tied directly to your origin account info or an origin account created in your name with the same login info.
As for the build claims, no idea. They put out a patch thursday evening, prior to that the server was still getting huge lag spikes every ~10 minutes even in the dead hours. I'll say this though, the content you see at low levels especially the first Flashpoint and all it's dialog and stuff, is not present in future flashpoints. Reminds me of Age of Conan's city of Tortuga, it's misleading.
My best guesses at this point. This current weekend beta ends, Nov 27/28th depending on your time zone. The game is set for release Dec 20, they offer up to 5 days headstart to preorders. So that makes the start Dec 15th if they hold up that 5 days. That leaves 2 and a half weeks prior to it. And Im guessing they take the servers for wipe, maintenance, upgrades, etc at the end of the weekend prior to the 15th if not earlier. So that would be Dec 11 or 12. That leaves two weeks to generate a gold version and put the game out. And I can't even guess what kind of lead time they need on that to get the CDs pressed and the boxes out on time....I think 10 days would be pushing it.
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| News Comments > On Sale |
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Re: On Sale |
Nov 26, 2011, 00:04 |
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Also on Battlefield 3, make sure you check to see if it includes DLC like the karkland pack. Otherwise you spend another 15 bucks on the DLC, that people who bought BF3 previously on other sales get for free.
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| News Comments > On Sale |
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Re: On Sale |
Nov 26, 2011, 00:01 |
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Kitkoan wrote on Nov 25, 2011, 19:12:
Just bought the Indie Music Bundle and was surprised to see there is a download limit on how many times you can download each album. While I admit its 20 which is quite a few times, but still was surprised to see a limit when they are DRM-free.
This is probably in response to other indie offers like humble using a webpage unique URL...that can be shared and have a few hundred people download the stuff. They limit you to 20 to keep you from sharing the link and wasting tons of their bandwidth.
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| News Comments > Star Wars: The Old Republic Jedi Consular Trailer |
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Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic Jedi Consular Trailer |
Nov 25, 2011, 23:52 |
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What bothers me about this beta weekend is that they got thousands of people downloading 20-30 gigs worth of data. Waiting upwards of a week for more info. And they let them in Saturday at 10AM and it ends Sunday at midnight. That's not even 48 hours of opportunity to login for all your time invested up to this point.
I mean Ive been in the beta for awhile, and that pisses me off. I have friends who I had to convince to get in and they didn't even give them the holiday and the weekend to mess around. Gave them a day and a half at best if there are no problems....and they are going to take the servers down (probably wipe the temp servers) so that means you have repeat yourself the next time they give you 36 hours to try to login.
And the game prior to this massive influx of people has been having huge lag spikes, whether it's due to code or server issues. I hate to see my friends just flat out waste their time for a bunch of downloading/sign-up/lag/other problems the chance to play won't even make up for. And both of them are star wars fans.
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| News Comments > Out of the Blue |
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Nov 17, 2011, 11:38 |
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What are the references on the videogame deadly sins comic?
See if you agree, cuz I'll be damned if Im going to sign up just to read their comments to check.
Sloth = Zelda flute
Wrath = basic headphones, no specific game
Pride = TF2
Envy = WoW
Greed = Pokemon? I have no other guess on this.
Gluttony = No idea what so ever.
Lust = Volleyball game girls?
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| News Comments > Battlefield 3 Bans |
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Re: Battlefield 3 Bans |
Nov 12, 2011, 21:02 |
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So do they Origin ban people when they get caught cheating?
I'd be pissed if I lost the ability to play MP on my catalog of games, so I wouldn't risk cheating.
Im guessing they still use punkbuster.....which I have had it flip out on me for being out of date..but I've never actually seen it catch an obvious cheater.
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| News Comments > Lord British's "Ultimate" Role Playing Game |
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Re: Lord British's "Ultimate" Role Playing Game |
Nov 11, 2011, 05:14 |
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Leveling curve is true though.....5 level spread in MMOs is horrible.
Some MMOs, like City of Heroes have it to where you can pair your guy up with a friend and if you play when they aren't online they still get a share of the XP you gain. And you get a share of the XP they gain if they play without you. So that's a decent system to stick with one friend..but kind of breaks down when it's a group of 10 people or so.
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| News Comments > Free-to-Play EverQuest II Next Month |
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Nov 11, 2011, 05:11 |
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F2P was an irritating experience all around before this. How are they improving it?
I think my backpacks were full of stuff by level 5, which none of it was useful. I had a pop up asking me to go "go silver" every 20 minutes, and I couldn't play any of the classes I wanted to. |
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| News Comments > Op Ed |
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Re: Op Ed |
Nov 8, 2011, 19:06 |
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Im about 2 years behind on average. It's a mixture of lack of funds, computer upgrades needed, disappoint from past launch purchases, reviews being worthless until 3 months after the launch of most games, generally just not being as forgiving as I used to be for problems and my friends giving up games entirely or moving away from PC.
Lack of funds - applies to both cost of upgrades needed and the cost of games on launch. If I can wait even 6 months and get 3 times the games for the same cash, I'm going to do that.
Past launch purchases - I loved the battlefield series, but with each iteration I didn't play them as long as the one prior. Bought BFBC2 a year after launch and I was not happy with the game..think I played it about a week. So BF3 is getting the skip for at least a year, and maybe forever if they won't come off the Origin thing. MMOs, I am a big fan of the MMO idea but anymore most of them are disappointing copies of prior gameplay. You can't get legitimate reviews on an MMO for at LEAST 3 months.
Intolerance - If a developer keeps repeating problems over and over in their games.....I'd have to be an idiot to pay their launch price when I can wait and I won't have to deal with the headaches AND get the game at half price. And in a years time their game is almost never mentioned anymore? You know it sucked for whatever reason and shouldn't waste your time tracking it anymore.
Waiting has a whole lot of benefits, one of them being that you just simply forget the game existed in the first place and never waste the money on it. Usually it's forgotten because it sucked, and 3-4 years down the road when it's 5 bucks on Steam or free with another game...you can find out how much it sucked.
If it's still mentioned and you remember it, you get less bugs, more content at a much reduced price with reviews that have more meaningful points than the ones around the time of it's launch. So you don't go in all hyped up expecting more than it is, which developers and publishers love to do ...hype the ever loving shit out of games.
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| News Comments > Morning Metaverse |
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Nov 4, 2011, 18:54 |
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I have to wonder whose the dumber of the bunch when it comes to something like Groupon. The people who invest or the people who don't. The thing looks like a ponzi scheme, acts like a ponzi scheme. Has stories of tons of dissatisfied people on both sides of the equation..
Had a guy involved in the company who has hyped companies and sold a worthless investment for lots of money.
I guess sure you can make a few bucks of something like this...but......why encourage this kind of behavior.
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| News Comments > DC Universe Online Freed |
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Nov 2, 2011, 18:05 |
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Looks extremely limited. In that you won't mind it for a bit, but later on you probably won't be able to function without putting money into the game.
SOE is really bad at making games free to play and still remotely fun to play.
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| News Comments > NVIDIA Investigating TDR Issues |
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Oct 31, 2011, 17:17 |
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Happens a lot on an old 8800GTX and TF2 with the last couple revisions of drivers. But then the drivers fix issues with other stuff...so it's deciding which problems you are willing to put up with at this point.
I'll take one of their good cards in exchange for mine......
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| News Comments > The Old Republic's Warzones |
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Re: The Old Republic's Warzones |
Oct 30, 2011, 13:16 |
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I enjoy world PVP when it has ways to focus the combat and make people engage each other on what should be fair grounds. You can't account for everything, but the way WoW and every MMO does world PVP similar to WoW has no design, it's tacked on to the "real" game.
If they made it so I could take items from the person I killed if they were higher level than I, then the high level guys wouldn't be out there griefing low level players because they might lose something. Instead they just sit on low level towns and grief endlessly with no repercussions.
Or you got the guys who wait until you engage an NPC then try to kill you. Or roam around in groups of 5 and 10 to kill one guy. They intentionally avoid the high population areas for enemies because they don't want 50 guys breaking up their griefing.
And after it's all over, you end up with people that were griefed relentlessly who are rightfully pissed off and the griefers who instead of PVPing come on the boards to defend their actions and pretend that the person actually stood a chance against them and deem it "good" PVP.
When they add world PVP where there is incentive to defend your territories and other members of your faction, as well as attack and take territories. With plenty of ways to organize into any size party and still meet resistance without one side being vastly overpowered....they will have created something that none of the triple A MMO devs will have bothered to try to create. There's a reason why there are only a handful of PVP servers versus all the PVE servers, people don't like the way world PVP is handled. But the BGs are still populated, because they have some focus, goals and it's in the best interest of each other to try to help one another to win. And even in BGs they go out of their way to twink a low level guy and keep him in brackets to dominate other players.....never seen a guy pick the average equipment as still try to win. It's always the super rare stuff with full enchantments and what not. And they claim it's because they want a challenge...... deceiving themselves about their griefing natures.
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| News Comments > The Old Republic's Warzones |
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Oct 29, 2011, 09:19 |
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Instanced PVP can be boring. But world PVP in the majority of MMOs is just dreadful. Fills the game with gankers and griefers, has no game value beyond griefing, and generally takes a lot more resources of development and creation time that could have been spent on pieces that would make the game more enjoyable for all.
With the way open world PVP is implemented on the majority of MMOs anymore, they shouldn't bother with it. WoWs open world was just full of max level people camping low level towns for fun......that's not "PVP" that's griefing.
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| News Comments > TF2 Trick or Treat |
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Oct 29, 2011, 01:15 |
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This event sucks. It's worse than last year as the map is tiny and the gifts spawn very infrequently. I could easily see people spending all week playing and getting no gift spawns at all.
It's just too cramped and the rounds go pretty fast..eyeball guy might spawn once a round, usually only one gift per round and they can last up to 10 minutes. Or at little as 3-4 minutes.
I can understand scarcity on items, but these are halloween ONLY items..you can't even wear the majority of them outside of the event.
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| News Comments > The Old Republic's Warzones |
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Oct 29, 2011, 01:08 |
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Three whole warzones.
And on top of that it looks like at least two of them will give an advantage to players who have range damage and knockbacks (knocking them off high places or into pits).
Wonder if they will be crappy like WAR's PVP instances where a couple guys knocking people off ledges could kill a lot of your team.
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