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News Comments > MechWarrior Online Adds 12-on-12 Combat
5. Re: MechWarrior Online Adds 12-on-12 Combat Aug 14, 2013, 18:38 Flatline
Eirikrautha wrote on Aug 13, 2013, 23:04:
Now more unbalanced mechs to alpha strike you per map! This is progress!

I'm waiting for the "armor boosters" that give you an instant 10% armor boost per use, for the low low cost of 50 cents per.
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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - PAYDAY 2
25. Re: Ships Ahoy - PAYDAY 2 Aug 13, 2013, 15:48 Flatline
Creston wrote on Aug 13, 2013, 14:38:
nin wrote on Aug 13, 2013, 13:52:
because apparently SWAT is recruited from the mentally handicapped ward?

Stormtrooper Academy of Shooting?

Something like that. It was ridiculous. They were out in the open, the entire street was filled with SWAT guys, and they were never getting hit. Edit: Watched that part again, they ARE getting hit, but it apparently does little to no damage. No idea if that was a dev mode thing or something. What I assumed was their health bars were slooooooooooooooowly counting down from 100 / 150. Like falling by 1 every two seconds slowly.

The narrating dev kept shouting at his buddies to "stay behind the Enforcer (guy with the body armor)!" as if wearing body armor somehow made him this bullet-absorbing black hole that would safeguard everyone else by force of his sheer presence. I guess SWAT in Payday is armed with a Volquartsen .22?

I wouldn't mind it so much if that was a rare occurence, but judging by their video the heist can go bad in a million different ways (they got ganked because a pedestrian saw them sticking up the bank and called the cops), and then it's immediately SWAT-Zerg.


I don't know what game they were playing, but it wasn't the game I played in the Beta.

In the beta the cops *never* missed, it was a question of reaction time, and one SWAT cop could probably hit you six or seven times on full auto before you could start to return fire. Plus, your health is paper thin- in the Beta they actually had to default to give everyone armor because you'd die in about 4 bullet hits otherwise.
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News Comments > Assassin's Creed 4 Ocean Size and Harpooning Explained
9. Re: Assassin's Creed 4 Ocean Size and Harpooning Explained Aug 7, 2013, 15:43 Flatline
Xil wrote on Aug 6, 2013, 13:58:
I really enjoyed AC1, more then enough to buy AC2, found the whole story line just great if not brilliant, wanted to play more to learn/uncover more. So with that in mind AC3 was a must buy but the whole story did not really grab me that much and now I am looking at AC4 and thinking naaaa probably not.....

I was an AC fan and petered out on AC3 as well.

However, that being said, I've been waiting for a AAA age of sail naval game, and the ship levels for AC3 *almost* scratched that itch.

So I'm getting AC4 because it'll be more of what I want, not because it's an AC game oddly enough.

I just wish someone could take this sailing/fighting engine and do the Napoleonic Wars with it. I'd pee myself a little to be on the deck of a ship giving orders at the Battle of Trafalgar while the French & British fleets blow the living fuck out of each other.
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News Comments > PAYDAY 2 Next Week
15. Re: PAYDAY 2 Next Week Aug 6, 2013, 14:57 Flatline
Verno wrote on Aug 6, 2013, 14:48:
The smash and grab thing sounds alright but are the big heists still things like watching a drill for 5 minutes while you get endlessly spammed by bad guys or are there actual heist mechanics in the game now? Like can you pull off an entire job through stealth? Have the mechanics like hostage trades and so on been expanded or is it a glorified survival mode again?

I really didn't like the first game but I thought it had promise if they fleshed out the features more. If they did that here great I'm on board, otherwise I'll pass.

There's an entire class dedicated to preventing the alarm from going off and stealth stuff. Although at that point you're standing around yelling at civilians to keep down.
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News Comments > Morning Tech Bits
3. Re: Morning Tech Bits Aug 6, 2013, 14:23 Flatline
Techie714 © wrote on Aug 6, 2013, 12:21:
BOTH companies are greedy WHORES! Either way the consumer will lose in the end. I'm seriously thinking about becoming a cord cutter.....<<<TWC Customer

I cut the cord 4 years ago. Never looked back.

Protip: See if someone has HBO that you know and is not using HBO Go. Get a Roku or something that supports HBO Go and have them sign up for it and hook you up with the login.


Generally speaking HBO Go updates their catalog within a day or so of the original broadcast.
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News Comments > Morning Mobilization
7. Re: Morning Mobilization Aug 5, 2013, 20:25 Flatline
Kitkoan wrote on Aug 5, 2013, 15:51:
DangerDog wrote on Aug 5, 2013, 13:33:
still too expensive for that brick.

I think the biggest issue is the developers made one thing, and the marketers didn't understand and tried to market it as something completely different.

Serious, the Surface Pro is an amazing art and design tablet that if it had been marketed as that would have become the mandatory laptop at any and every art and design school. It can run Photoshop and other full graphics programs, has a 1080p screen with a stylus that is pressure sensitive, has a decent battery life and is ultra portable. There is literally nothing on the market this advanced for art and design.

To bad marketing didn't understand that and tried passing it off as a laptop... Biggest screwup there.

Several network engineers I know are also pissing themselves over the Pro.

At a grand though it's hard to justify. It seriously needs to sit at the Ipad's price point and it'll start to move. If I could get a pro with decent memory for 6-700 dollars I'd do it and retire my work laptop completely.
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News Comments > Shadowrun Returns Support Plans
18. Re: Shadowrun Returns Support Plans Aug 5, 2013, 13:37 Flatline
Creston wrote on Aug 4, 2013, 22:07:
I have to say, that 100 hour campaign looks absolutely awesome. Basically they're taking every PnP Shadowrun module ever built, and are turning it into one massive campaign.

I honestly doubt they'll ever finish it (though so far a ton of people have signed up to work on it), but IF they ever do, it might genuinely be the most incredible RPG game we'll have ever played. Some of those modules were absolutely fantastic (I especially loved the ones surrounding Dunkelzahn's election and subsequent suicide.)


Moreso than that I'd like to see someone mod in an equipment resource pack (maybe I'll break out the books and do it myself) defining a lot more equipment/cyberware/etc to bring it closer to the PnP games.
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News Comments > Shadowrun Returns Support Plans
17. Re: Shadowrun Returns Support Plans Aug 5, 2013, 13:28 Flatline
JoeNapalm wrote on Aug 5, 2013, 09:04:
Sho wrote on Aug 4, 2013, 14:46:
About six hours in now, still having a blast. Yes, it's a bit on the casual side, but that's exactly what I need to relax inbetween shifts right now.

Yeah, I'm sure it's tough with no other casual games out there...just all those lovingly detailed re-creations of complex PnP RPGs.

Am I the only one who was disappointed by the depth of this game? It's more like a really good iPad game. I think that's part of why the campaign is so is just long enough for you to wish there were more, but not so long as you get bored.

Ifriti Sophist

No, no I'm not upset at the depth of the game, because half the product I bought was an editor system to create new content, and people are going fucking gangbusters on it.

Bitching that this game is shallow is right around bitching that Minecraft doesn't have enough story-driven content. Okay to be fair it's more like bitching that the original Neverwinter Nights campaign was lackluster- that sort of wasn't the point.

Come back in six months when there's a few thousand more modules to play. And in 2-3 months we're getting *another* official campaign/setting for free (if you kickstarted) that has a supposedly more open-ended campaign to it.

I seriously gotta wonder what you expect for 25 bucks and a million dollar budget.
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News Comments > Voxel-based EverQuest Next Details
19. Re: Voxel-based EverQuest Next Details Aug 2, 2013, 17:16 Flatline
NegaDeath wrote on Aug 2, 2013, 15:53:
This sounds incredibly innovative for an MMO to me. A destructible voxel based engine? A sandbox style game world designed from crust to core that might allow for a "journey to the center of the earth" experience? Skepticism is a requirement at this point but I'm excited.

This was done in Reamde by Neil Stephenson. Nothing under the sun is new.
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News Comments > BioShock Infinite DLC Today & Rapture DLC Planned
47. Re: BioShock Infinite DLC Today & Rapture DLC Planned Aug 1, 2013, 18:58 Flatline
Wesp5 wrote on Jul 31, 2013, 09:46:
So just reading all the explanations here again convinces me that the ending is stupid and illogical and tacked on :). Just watch yourself trying to explain it away using reasons like: "So years go by and you carve Anna's name onto your hand as a reminder, then promptly forget. Robert Lutece has second thoughts about all this multiverse shit, and makes his sister do something about it." Oh, and what about all these towers and all the other pairs visible watching out of them? From that moment on the mechanics of the world change which is why I feel it is tacked on!

Thanks for using fucking spoilers asshat.

Also, I was wrong.

Booker is pulled from his universe into the one where Comstock takes Anna, and as we see when you move through tears, your nose bleeds and your memories change. So when Booker is taken to the lighthouse in the beginning, his nose bleeds and his memory changes, and in that change he more or less forgets about his daughter, because in this universe he never had one.

Also, Robert Lutece and his sister are "killed" by Comstock, but actually put into... well... a netherworld. And he resents it.

As for the towers, you really don't get it. The idea of parallel universes is that each time you have a decision to make, in some universe, the other option is taken. So it looks like a massive branching tree if you were to map it out. The other towers and other pairs of Booker & Elizabeth are all the other decisions you *could* have made but didn't. Note that some of the towers didn't have Booker & Elizabeth- they died in that universe, or didn't make it to the end. Figure each tower as another universe. Elizabeth has tied all the universes into a single nexus point, which is how she's able to end all the Comstock universes.
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News Comments > BioShock Infinite DLC Today & Rapture DLC Planned
35. Re: BioShock Infinite DLC Today & Rapture DLC Planned Jul 31, 2013, 06:29 Flatline
Wesp5 wrote on Jul 31, 2013, 03:50:
The Rapture expansion sounds to me like it is the ending the game actually deserved, instead of the stupid, illogical and tacked on feeling ending it got in the original game after leaving Rapture...

Actually if you understand Quantum Mechanics and parallel universes, the ending makes perfect sense. The only thing arbitrary is the "there's always a city and a man" part and the question of if Elizabeths' tears are pre-existing universes or if they're "sort of a wish fulfillment" like she points out.

Note when she says that the uprising is "just like Les Miserable" it's romantic, billowing, uplifting, and optimistic. But as Booker wears on her optimism, each tear shift gets bleaker and bleaker, as her outlook on humanity becomes bleaker.

My Analysis of the ending in a nutshell:

As for the ending, it's decently straightforward. In a world of parallel universes, there are situations where you, Booker, get baptized to was away your sins. In doing so, you become Comstock. Comstock meets Lutece in some of these instances, who looks into Quantum Mechanics and finds her "twin", or her counterpart in another parallel universe, who in that universe is actually a man. Using the ability to look into other times and universes opens windows up to Rapture, which is where Tonics come from (as mentioned in one of the voxophones), as well as the other anachronisms. However, repeated use of this technology prematurely ages Comstock and renders him sterile, and he wants to have progeny. Specifically, his progeny.

So the Lutece "twins" find an alternate reality where Comstock did *not* accept baptism and wallowed in his guilt, drinking and running up gambling debts. Lutece twins offer to buy Booker's daughter off of him ("Give us the girl, and wipe away the debt"), which he agrees to do. He has a change of heart, and goes after her. Her pinky is sheared off in the process, and according to Voxophone records, the girl, now renamed Elizabeth, is able to open tears because she exists in multiple universes at once.

So years go by and you carve Anna's name onto your hand as a reminder, then promptly forget. Robert Lutece has second thoughts about all this multiverse shit, and makes his sister do something about it. So they go to childless Booker and tell him that if he gets the girl back, he erases his debt. This all combines into a delusion Booker is sort of under and the game starts.

At the end of the game, Elizabeth's power is unlocked. Booker wants to kill Comstock, so you go back to the baptism. By being drown, you see the different incarnations of Elizabeth fade away and cease to exist, as you end every possible timeline where Comstock exists and can go buy Anna from Booker. This forces the quantum state of all the parallel realities to collapse (You open the box on Schroedinger's Cat and it's no longer both alive and dead, it's one or the other)- there can be no more Comstock to set the multiverse hopping plot in motion. Therefore, only Booker can exist, and by default Booker can't get baptized so he can't be killed. Any quantum state that results in Comstock includes at this point at least one scenario where Booker goes back in time to prevent Comstock from existing (by drowning himself). There's at least one self-closing loop that prevents the Comstock state of reality from existing at all. Therefore, the only reality possibilities left require Booker to not take baptism and the Point Of View Booker keeps Anna (there may be other Bookers that don't have kids, or come to terms with their guilt, or kill themselves, or whatever, the important part is that *your* point of view Booker keeps Anna, and there is no reality that can support Comstock, because that loop was closed), which is why she's crying in the last scene of the game.

Side sad note: Without some way of breaking the loop, Elizabeth, at least her personality, ceases to exist. This is suggested as she disappears. What is left is the woman Anna will become, which will be fundamentally different than Elizabeth. How this is addressed in the DLC I don't know. I dunno even *if* it'll be addressed.
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News Comments > Evening Patches
1. Re: Evening Patches Jul 31, 2013, 06:09 Flatline
I wonder how long Blizzard is going to let this inflation farce keep going.

Maybe that's how they're going to eliminate the auction house: by doing inflation to the point where it's useless.
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News Comments > BioShock Infinite DLC Today & Rapture DLC Planned
26. Re: BioShock Infinite DLC Today & Rapture DLC Planned Jul 30, 2013, 17:20 Flatline
nin wrote on Jul 30, 2013, 14:33:
DG wrote on Jul 30, 2013, 14:19:
Haven't gotten around to playing the main game yet. Am I right to assume this new DLC (not the arena thing) will be very much separate, post-endgame stuff, and not inserted into the middle like much of the Mass Effect DLC?

W/o talking about the ending, it's unknown. It could take place in the middle, or (again, trying to avoid spoilers) after the main game, in another place, if you will...

I can't be too specific, but post-jailbait Elizabeth has some very, very specific ramifications in light of the ending. Either that or it's a stand-alone vignette, which again I'm okay with.

Edit: So I watched the trailer. I'm f*cking DOWN for this. They're giving it a distinct film noir detective pulp vibe in the trailer. I'm down with that.

This comment was edited on Jul 30, 2013, 17:25.
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News Comments > Op Ed
38. Re: Op Ed Jul 30, 2013, 01:30 Flatline
Creston wrote on Jul 30, 2013, 01:26:
HorrorScope wrote on Jul 30, 2013, 00:28:
Mad Max RW wrote on Jul 29, 2013, 19:48:
Read this to get an idea of how out of control twitter and the rest of social media has become:

This was my favorite:
I will skin your wife alive and have sex with her fleshless body. I will then wear her flesh and make you pay.

The internet used to be a much better place before we let all the fucktards on.


Hmm... I wonder if making the modern day equivalent of modem init strings would help keep people off the internet... You know, a portal everyone has to pass through to get online:

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News Comments > Op Ed
35. Re: Op Ed Jul 30, 2013, 01:01 Flatline
PropheT wrote on Jul 29, 2013, 22:19:
Flatline wrote on Jul 29, 2013, 21:19:
Fish *wanted* to be a public persona, and as Princess Diana can tell you, that has some fucking consequences to it. He could have hired someone to do PR for him and kept his mouth shut and kept on making games if that's what he loved, but he, to crib David Bowie, made love to his ego until he started believing his own hype.

But Fish was a nobody. I mean, he's sort of semi-famous among the gamer and internet crowd now, but even a great deal of them had never heard of him and even a good chunk who had only had heard of him because of someone complaining about him. If it wasn't for that I'd likely have no idea who he is, and I read gaming stuff every day.

He sure as hell wasn't married to royalty or just plain rock and roll royalty; his game didn't even sell all that many copies compared to non-indie titles out there. I'd be willing to bet he's more famous for a small handful of comments that have been dissected and torn apart to make him into a convenient villain rather than for the game he made at this point. That really says something about the community that he's decided he doesn't want to be part of, I think, and it's hard to disagree with that line of thinking.

That's kind of my point. He was a douchebag dev who made a game and saying douchebag things got him into the news circuit, which gave him wood. So he kept saying douchebag things because getting wood is a pleasant thing. Then suddenly, the Interwebs got tired of him being a douchebag and nuked the site from orbit (It's the only way to be sure) and the dude's reaction is basically "WTF? Why did you do that? I was only being a douchebag! I'm taking my toys and going home!"

He's famous for being a douchebag but never contemplated what that might entail, and he's not famous enough to pay someone to filter out all of the toxic waste that comes back at him like someone like Glenn Beck surely does.

I mean shit... we live in a world where Reddit will actually get you banned from your gym for being a douchebag and posting about it publicly. What does the dude expect?
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News Comments > Op Ed
20. Re: Op Ed Jul 29, 2013, 21:36 Flatline
Beamer wrote on Jul 29, 2013, 21:29:

Like Verno said, there's no doubt his personality was massively toxic. But people without toxic personalities shouldn't be so readily willing to tell him they want to kill his mother.

It amazes me how many people were massive assholes to him, and how many people are then critical of him for deciding maybe this isn't a good situation for him to be in.

I generally discount around 100% of the physical threats I encounter on the internet as "Internet Tough Guy Syndrome". They mean even less to me than other insults do.

But that being said, the alternative is to let this guy be toxic and not suffer the consequences of his actions. I mean, talking sense to him wouldn't work- he still doesn't give a shit that he's a dick.

and I'm not critical of him for quitting, I just think he can dish it but can't take it and it's probably appropriate for him to GTFO.

But he won't. I don't think his ego will let him.
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News Comments > Op Ed
17. Re: Op Ed Jul 29, 2013, 21:19 Flatline
NKD wrote on Jul 29, 2013, 20:14:
It needs people who are willing to say whatever’s on their minds despite how unpopular it makes them.

Sure, as long as they say it in a way befitting someone with a public image. Posting on some comment thread on some obscure gaming website and posting on your Twitter account with 80 gazillion followers are two very different things.

Saying what's on your mind in an absurdly inflammatory way only distracts people from your point, it doesn't reinforce it. That's fine here on Blues and elsewhere, but not when you're speaking to paying customers and business partners.

Indie developers have enough hurdles to climb without having to deal with being painted as whiny man-children who cannot conduct business with any professionalism or respect.

We complain about the antiseptic and aloof behavior of mainstream developers, who seem detached from their player base, but frankly I think the Phil Fish's of the world have swung way too far in the other direction to the point where if they aren't being worshipped and their dick sucked, they can't function.

I pretty much agree here.

And yet when someone on the internet says "I'm the fucking GOD of the next dev generation incarnate bow down before me and hope that I don't decide to fuck you because it'd be a financial road bump for me" the internet spoke it's mind, which collectively was "this guy needs to be taken down several pegs, his ego is bigger than the Oort Cloud".

The door swings both ways. If you're going to be flamboyantly outspoken and a dick publicly you should expect anyone who you speak to to respond in kind. And if you're responding to 80 million people, you should expect a million nasty responses.

And if you can't understand that kind of math/social dynamics involved, you should get the fuck out of being a public persona.

Fish *wanted* to be a public persona, and as Princess Diana can tell you, that has some fucking consequences to it. He could have hired someone to do PR for him and kept his mouth shut and kept on making games if that's what he loved, but he, to crib David Bowie, made love to his ego until he started believing his own hype.

I don't mourn him, I hold him up as an example of swimming in the Internet and Social Media.
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News Comments > Steam Top 10
21. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 29, 2013, 16:50 Flatline
JoeNapalm wrote on Jul 29, 2013, 16:20:
KSP is a great of the very few I've played, in recent years, with an actual learning curve.

First few hours are spent simply trying to get into orbit, then get to the Mun, then LAND on the Mun, then land a Kerbal on the Mun, then rescue the Kerbal on the Mun because you can't get him back because you crash landed and wouldn't have had enough fuel, anyway...

I stopped playing, for now, because I wanted to enjoy it all over again in release.

Shadowrun Returns is bittersweet, for me. I'm surprised by all of the glowing praise, here. This is normally a tougher crowd. I love all things Shadowrun, and I enjoyed SR, but I was disappointed by the kiddie-pool depth of the thing. It's more like a very good iPad game than a PC game.

Ifriti Sophist

Again, have you gotten into the editor yet? User content will resolve pretty much every issue that they've had except the save point issue.

The article on what they had to do from arstechnica is pretty interesting. A lot of that money went into building a good toolbox. They did well with the campaign but the game was always pitched from the beginning as being a toolbox to create new content primarily.

I'm contemplating and sketching out a *large* campaign, and dabbling my feet in the editor. There's a HUGE amount of potential in that engine. That's what's getting people so excited.
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News Comments > Fez II Cancelled
17. Re: Fez II Cancelled Jul 28, 2013, 16:58 Flatline
Narf2029 wrote on Jul 28, 2013, 16:11:
The guy even looks like a douchebag...

He buried the needle on my "hipster" detector.
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News Comments > Fez II Cancelled
16. Re: Fez II Cancelled Jul 28, 2013, 16:58 Flatline
Rattlehead wrote on Jul 28, 2013, 16:31:
NKD wrote on Jul 28, 2013, 16:04:
Phil Fish is an idiot and a waste of oxygen. He needs to hurry up with his psychotic break and just step in front of a train ASAP so the rest of us don't have to deal with his constant whining about the occasional criticism.
Sarcasm or not, telling someone who is obviously in need of mental health services to kill themselves is a horrible thing to say.

Yeah, that Fish dude is a real prick for saying that.
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