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News Comments > Morning Tech Bits
11. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 26, 2014, 16:20 Cutter
 
Quboid wrote on Mar 26, 2014, 10:16:
Who would have paid $2B for the iPhone before it was released? Who wouldn't pay that now? Of course for every gamble that pays off quite a few fail, as the article points out, but I think it comes down to Facebook gambling that this will go further than anyone really understands at this point.

Yeah, but everyone needs a phone. This is a very niche product even amongst gamers. So Occulus has no patents and a tech that's easily reproducible by larger companies like Sony, MS, Samsung, et al. And FB paid 2 billion for this? That's just laughable - unless your an FB stockholder in which case it's time get rid of Zuckerberg.
 
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News Comments > The Elder Scrolls Online Next Week: Early Access Details
26. Re: The Elder Scrolls Online Next Week: Early Access Details Mar 26, 2014, 15:38 Cutter
 
This game is just awful. Definitely F2P within the year. Probably 6 months.  
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News Comments > Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled
74. Re: Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled Mar 26, 2014, 00:31 Cutter
 
First off Carmack is there because he wants to be, not that he needs the dosh. And I can guarantee to that right now that someone of his stature is beholden to no one. He may have had a contract with Rage but that's why he dialed it in. He sure as shit didn't join OR for the money and he very definitely came on his own terms and can leave as such. Johnny doesn't need the money unlike most of the guys working on this. The man is simply interested in the tech, and if it doesn't pan out the way he wants you can expect and announcement he's going his own way,

Until these guys actually deliver what they promise, everything else is moot. Worst you'll see is a handful of lawsuits which OR will now happily pay off.

Otherwise wake me when they change the world, lol.
 
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News Comments > Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled
61. Re: Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled Mar 25, 2014, 23:16 Cutter
 
Quboid wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 23:05:
DangerDog wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 22:49:
http://brandsumo.com/files/facebookvr.jpg

got to recoup that 2billion somehow right?

That's depressing. Not what the picture shows but that the picture exists. It's disappointing that Facebook has bought Oculus but perspective is needed and this is only going to discourage content creation.

I fear some developers could really lose out by over-reacting to this and ditching Rift support, only to be left behind. Even if the Rift is a disaster, it has already shown enough that alternatives are surely being designed right now. Developing for VR is worth considering and that means developing for the Rift at this moment in time, even if you don't intend to include Rift support when you actually ship your software. It would be a shame if some really good content never got made because the developer got cold feet and missed the boat.

Time is money. So why would you develop anything for this unless it was guaranteed income? This is why I said, devs will not only not do it now, but expect to be paid for it unless they know it wil justify sales, which it won't.

Everyone here going to run out and buy Win8 for DX12 are they? Heh, let me know how that works out.
 
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News Comments > Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled
60. Re: Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled Mar 25, 2014, 23:12 Cutter
 
Primalchrome wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 23:00:
Cutter wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 20:53:
Can you really see your average household family of four sitting around the dinner table wearing these cumbersome things on their heads?
Someone said that about raising sheep in Farmville as well.... I also remember people saying texting was a Japanese fad...

And again did they have to wear TVs on their face to do that? No. I'm sure you believe that 3D wasn't another fad - once again - either right? So beyond a gaming or military/scientific/engineering application why would most people want one of these again? Oh right, they won't. Same as all the millions of assholes who bought Kinects for the the Xbox which all now sit gathering dust.

I could be wrong of course, I'm sure the Spybox 360 crowds will have zero problem adopting this. And of course they won't sit around gathering dust either after the initial 'ooh aahh' of the first two weeks has worn off.

You heard it here first, fellas, VR is the future. I mean its not like we've ever heard that before. Lol!
 
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
4. Re: Evening Metaverse Mar 25, 2014, 23:01 Cutter
 
Beamer wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 20:45:
Cutter wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 20:43:
Yes, but even stocks - legally - are still paper and barter sill involves physical goods being exchanged. So the electron is now property is it? Well, shit, we're all in massive arrears on our back taxes in that case!

Stocks actually haven't been paper for years.

What about negotiable bearer bonds?
 
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News Comments > Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled
17. Re: Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled Mar 25, 2014, 20:53 Cutter
 
So beyond a very niche market of gamers to begin with. How can they monetize this? Military? Science? Engineering? Again very niche, very specific applications.

Can you really see your average household family of four sitting around the dinner table wearing these cumbersome things on their heads?

No, as we were talking about in the other thread, I think there's something we're not seeing yet. Possible potential long term stuff with patents acquired sort of thing. Does anyone have the inside track on patents the OR team has? Because that has to be it. There's no way they'll ever make this back selling headsets. There must be a bigger, long term plan at work unless - as Beamer said- Zuck just thinks it's cool and wants it. Which really doesn't go over with public companies. And for those who missed it, correspondingly, FB lost 1.6 billion in valuation today after the announcement.

Now, if they can deliver a Gibson/Snow Crash type VR I'm in, otherwise don't waste my time.
 
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News Comments > etc., etc.
1. Re: etc., etc. Mar 25, 2014, 20:45 Cutter
 
So they seriously believe that? Ok, then I seriously wonder why loonies like this aren't locked up? Religious extemists like this are terrorists. They're a detriment to society as a whole.
 
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
1. Re: Evening Metaverse Mar 25, 2014, 20:43 Cutter
 
Yes, but even stocks - legally - are still paper and barter sill involves physical goods being exchanged. So the electron is now property is it? Well, shit, we're all in massive arrears on our back taxes in that case!
 
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News Comments > Evening Previews
1. Re: Evening Previews Mar 25, 2014, 20:41 Cutter
 
The Revolution does not go better with coke.
 
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News Comments > Evening Patches
1. Re: Evening Patches Mar 25, 2014, 20:40 Cutter
 
Hells yeah! And this is precisely what I've been waiting for. Time to get back to truckin'! Can't wait to see what ATS will be like.

Edit: Yeah! There it is! 413 meg update!

This comment was edited on Mar 25, 2014, 20:56.
 
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News Comments > Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled
8. Re: Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled Mar 25, 2014, 20:36 Cutter
 
NKD wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 20:32:
Minecraft already works on Oculus Rift, sorry Notch.

RIP Oculus Rift.

I catch any of you fuckers buying one of these from this point forward I will make sure you know no peace on the Blue's News comments section.

Why? What's your vested interest in this? Did Zuck have your family killed or something? This was never going to be more than a niche product anwyay. Granted FB will find some way to pervert it, but let the market decide. If you kicked in on the KS then demand your money back.
 
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News Comments > Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled
4. Re: Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled Mar 25, 2014, 20:33 Cutter
 
In the words of the Joker...."Commence au festivale!"
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
48. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 20:31 Cutter
 
Tom wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 20:19:
Oh ok then, so VR is no more sophisticated than a TV or a refrigerator. Nevermind that these companies can't even get TVs right most of the time.

What did FB buy? They bought the people with the energy and potential to make something huge. Again, it comes down to Luckey Palmer and the team that formed around him.

And how do you figure wearing a TV on your face will be huge? Christ, all of a year ago they were still touting how 3D was here to stay and we saw how that worked out. And those were just some stupid glasses you had to wear. You're talking about several thousand people - 9,522 to be precise - that raised 2.5 million over their initial asking of 250k. Several thousand people does not a revolution make.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
46. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 20:24 Cutter
 
Thanks Beamer. You make some really excellent points on this matter. Still, I can't help thinking there has to be an angle to all of this somewhere that no one else is seeing yet. Obviously companies make bad decisions from time to time but this is just so out in left field. As someone else pointed out with Whatsapp, FB just acquired several million more people they can monetize with their partners. But as you've said, not so with the OR.

Not now, or likely ever at this point. So maybe Bobob has the right of it. Maybe some of their patents look pretty sweet in the long term. Otherwise it's like you said, Zuck just thinks this is keen and wants it. It seems like their shareholders are pretty worried about this too. I'd wager Zuck will be pushed out as CEO before too long.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
43. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 20:07 Cutter
 
BobBob wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 19:56:
What patents are involved in the purchase?

Excellent question! And probably the one the purchase hinged on more than anything else. I didn't even stop to consider that.

Still....enh...I can't see it. Maybe the groundwork for some very long term plans 20 years from now? But by that point I can't see anyone wanting to wear anything as cumbersome as that. More like the device Jim Carrey's Riddler invented in that Batman movie where it beams shit straight into your brain. Then again, like the Batman movie, that means they can snoop out everything in your brain too!
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
40. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 19:59 Cutter
 
Seriously Beamer, you're our resident biz guy. I'm not being a dick about this, explain or lay our some scenarios here that show the potential upside that justifies this acquisition because I sure as shit don't see any - any positive ones at any rate.

Edit: Oh yeah, just saw that Wall St. isn't happy about this and FB lost almost 2 billion off it's valuation today.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
38. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 19:57 Cutter
 
Ok, then what's the upside here? As I asked. Not even counting what they'll have to pay developers - and they will have to pay now - how many headsets will they have to sell to break even? What's the price point they think they'll get to? $300?

And unless we're talking about Snow Crash type VR here why would anyone except a hardcore gamer want it? I could see limited application in military/science/engineering, but again, very niche.

I'm saying that 2 billion on an unproven device is insanity. Shit, this reminds me of all the Dot Com craziness going on. Yeah, some people made out like bandits, but most lost, and very little of it ever materialized into anything worthwhile.

And consider FB's modus operandi. They only make money by monetizing the shit out of everything. So obviously they have no intention of just selling the headsets for people to use without something else in the works that will make them ongoing profit. And that means tracking and advertising. Well shit, people deal with that crap without a cumbersome headset of a few hundred dollars. Hell, just look at how well the Kinect has worked out, lol.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
33. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 19:46 Cutter
 
Just saw this in a report....

Finally, Oculus said in the next 10 years virtual reality will become "ubiquitous, affordable, and transformative."

Oh really? So it's going to be Snow Crash for everyone in 10 years is it? Hrm, still waiting for my flying car, meals in pill form, and swingin' bachelor pad on the moon.

Zuck is rattling on how this is the future? Ok, a niche market of gaming geeks wearing these are one thing. But the populous at large wielding these monstrosities to social network? Check email? Hang out together and watch movies, sports, etc? Uh huh, yeah. Sure. Take another hit off that pipe Zuck.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
32. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 19:37 Cutter
 
Well, as I said in the other thread they owe their backers nothing beyond what was promised so as long as they get that, all is well on that front.

But $2B for this and $19B for Whatsapp leads me to believe that the management at FB is utterly insane at this point. It also leads me to believe that FB will crash and burn in the most spectacular manner sooner rather than later. It'll be a textbook study in business school upon how to not count one's chickens before they hatch.

Honestly, does anyone think the OR has a future now? I can see it now....every OR integrated with FB. Every OR owner being tracked in every game and getting FB alerts and ads all the time.

Do they really think this is a device capable of selling over 2 BILLION dollars? How many millions of headsets is that? How much grease going to developers to ensure they develop for the OR?
 
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