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News Comments > Portal 2 Nears
128. Re: Portal 2 Nears Apr 19, 2011, 00:45 DarkCntry
 
Asmo wrote on Apr 19, 2011, 00:43:
No participation in the ARG, no potatoes, almost finished decrypting for me...

2.40pm Aus time, plenty of time to play today, good work Valve.

X D

QUIET, YOU'VE BEEN SCAMMED!
 
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News Comments > Portal 2 Nears
86. Re: Portal 2 Nears Apr 18, 2011, 23:52 DarkCntry
 
[VG]Reagle wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 23:49:
12 midnight eastern = ARG did not do crap. All video game sellers are selling it now. Steam users get it up the ass.

The only ones that'll probably have zero issues playing are 360 users, simply because it doesn't tie into Steam in the first place.

PS3 and PC/Mac users are, however, probably still on the waiting game. Although I'd probably expect that there's a time lock on all 3 versions at this point.

Either way...Valve still hasn't scammed anyone.
 
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News Comments > Portal 2 Nears
34. Re: Portal 2 Nears Apr 18, 2011, 20:47 DarkCntry
 
nin wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 20:45:
You people like nin who like to incorrectly asses terms to people for doing nothing remotely like that


What?



Here, I'll make it simple..

You calling people apologists is about as accurate as saying everyone loved Bush Jr as a president. In other words...not very.
 
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News Comments > Portal 2 Nears
32. Re: Portal 2 Nears Apr 18, 2011, 20:41 DarkCntry
 
nin wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 20:39:

You Valve apologists are a fucking riot. You will swallow any amount of shit they serve, and then ask for more.

Funny how correcting misconceptions and misuse of a term is now akin to being an apologist.

So in kind;

"You people like nin who like to incorrectly asses terms to people for doing nothing remotely like that are a fucking riot. You'll gladly generalize incorrectly about a person and show yourself being a complete tool."
 
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News Comments > Portal 2 Nears
29. Re: Portal 2 Nears Apr 18, 2011, 20:30 DarkCntry
 
Dev wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 20:28:
DarkCntry wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 20:26:
it still doesn't make this a scam in any sense of the word.
For the 6th time in this thread.
The scam was the illusion of any of this marketing event having any effect at all on the release time. Its always been planned to be shortly after midnight on Tuesday so the retailers don't get upset.

Fine, for the millionth time...

There is no illusion, as you cannot provide any source of information to back up your claims. Your 'feelings' on this matter is not an objective claim.

I also cannot believe you're still on about the "shortly after midnight" when I just told you release dates are for made for the origin timezone of the company. It's not some CYA against upsetting retailers, and unless you can provide proof of this (seeing as you keep harping on this, the burden of proof lies on you), then you're just spouting hyperbolic nonsense.
 
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News Comments > Portal 2 Nears
27. Re: Portal 2 Nears Apr 18, 2011, 20:26 DarkCntry
 
Dev wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 20:20:
DarkCntry wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 20:00:
a bullet-point in describing a scam.
Ok fine, since you need bullet points.
  • Months ago valve begins planning portal 2 release
  • Actually, they probably planned this more than a few months ago.

  • During the planning they decide they will release/unlock the game soon after midnight EST

  • I'd probably expect that this didn't come to pass until they finalized the ARG content

  • Shortly afterwards a marketing guy comes up with an idea. "Hey, lets run a multi game cross publisher promotion that requires additional sales and playtime but only gives people the illusion of being able to unlock the game early. We'll have to 'push' the release date forward from our originally planned midnight to early morning to give us the room to call it an early release


  • A programmer says "well just in case not enough people work on it, we need a way to adjust the release clock to our preplanned near midnight time, so lets introduce potatoes to give us a fudge factor

  • Conjecture here is simply based upon your skewed view, definitely not objective.

    Do you know what the "potato counter" is actually for? Maybe it was another, hidden, factor that would assist all along.



    The exact sequence maybe didn't happen in that order with those exact words, but I'm convinced thats the overall planning and end effect is that.

    If you're convinced, you're convinced, however that doesn't change anything and it still doesn't make this a scam in any sense of the word.
     
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    News Comments > Portal 2 Nears
    22. Re: Portal 2 Nears Apr 18, 2011, 20:00 DarkCntry
     
    Dev wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 19:56:
    DarkCntry wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 19:51:
    Funny, according to the actual clock...6:21 does not make it midnight for Valve (see Pacific Time).

    Like all time locks it's based upon the region to which the company resides, in the case of Valve it is Bellevue WA. In 6 hours, it'll be 11pm. Considering the consistency that the clock has been dwindling, I foresee it being even less than that the closer we get to 11pm.

    So, again, where is the scam?
    I know exactly which time zone valve resides. In one of the previous portal 2 early release threads I talked about PST vs EST. The unlock time is still after midnight (east coast), probably so that the midnight retail store events that are happening (such as some best buys) will let the buyers unlock the game after they purchase it. Valve has had people upset in the past when they didn't unlock at midnight on the east coast since people couldn't play the games they purchased.

    Again, this is a common sense issue. Time zones (and the annoyances they provide) are not a bullet-point in describing a scam.

    Besides, if anyone is still at the point of getting pissed off because their game isn't 'unlocked' in their time zone should be punished for being a complete idiot, after-all, it's been this way forever.

    Kinda like that saying, "Ignorantia juris non excusat."
     
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    News Comments > Portal 2 Nears
    20. Re: Portal 2 Nears Apr 18, 2011, 19:51 DarkCntry
     
    Dev wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 19:47:
    DarkCntry wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 19:34:
    A scam is when you tell someone they can get something early and in reality it comes out at the same time.
    Which I'm saying they did. It comes out at the same time regardless. Accelerated bars now along with potato fudge factor. As I've said in 3 posts now, its always been planned to come out around midnight, regardless of how much or how little work people did to "accelerate" the release.
    Funny, according to the actual clock...6:21 does not make it midnight for Valve (see Pacific Time).

    Like all time locks it's based upon the region to which the company resides, in the case of Valve it is Bellevue WA. In 6 hours, it'll be 11pm. Considering the consistency that the clock has been dwindling, I foresee it being even less than that the closer we get to 11pm.

    So, again, where is the scam?
     
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    News Comments > Portal 2 Nears
    17. Re: Portal 2 Nears Apr 18, 2011, 19:36 DarkCntry
     
    Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 19:30:
    PHJF wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 19:25:
    Well I was going to play TF2 now but seeing as how I can't even connect to Steam it looks like I'll be doing something else.
    DRM ftw!

    Not exactly DRM, as it's a matchmaking-required game. It's no different from the days when GameSpy would be the predominant matchmaker and have their own issues impeding your ability to play online.
     
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    News Comments > Portal 2 Nears
    16. Re: Portal 2 Nears Apr 18, 2011, 19:34 DarkCntry
     
    Dev wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 19:28:
    DarkCntry wrote on Apr 18, 2011, 19:08:
    I also don't feel it's a scam, simply because it doesn't hurt anyone if they participate, nor does it force participation.
    But valve all along said this was to get it to release "early". Even a few hours ahead of schedule can technically be called "early" even though I think many people were expecting at least a day.
    Now indications are that this near midnight time was the planned and scheduled release time all along regardless of how much or little work people did and that there was never going to be an "early" release.

    Sounds like a scam to me.

    Early is not a subjective statement...the problem is when people start applying subjective reasoning to statements of factual basis.

    Early is anything before a specific moment, this could be 1 second to 100 years...it's both still early.

    A scam is when you tell someone they can get something early and in reality it comes out at the same time. Or better yet, you tell someone that you must purchase these 13 games and play them to unlock Portal 2 early.

    Neither of these are what Valve did. They created a meta-game to increase the chances of the game releasing early. You can opt to participate or not, either way it doesn't affect your ability to obtain Portal 2, either on-time or 'early'.
     
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    News Comments > Portal 2 Nears
    12. Re: Portal 2 Nears Apr 18, 2011, 19:08 DarkCntry
     
    I dunno about the consumption of potatoes 'accelerating', as doing a quick calculation, it'd take 7.1 hours for the counter to hit zero (when I did the calculation).

    My guess is that it was simply a threshold point to which you can 'guarantee' a release early.

    I also don't feel it's a scam, simply because it doesn't hurt anyone if they participate, nor does it force participation.
     
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    News Comments > Portal 2 Watch
    46. Re: Portal 2 Watch Apr 17, 2011, 03:12 DarkCntry
     
    KilrathiAce wrote on Apr 17, 2011, 03:09:
    All this portal 2 hype and little games related to having it released early... its ok if you actually plan or like the games, but there is no way in hell I would be playing something I dont really care for just to have a chance at portal 2 being released early... There is plenty of good games to play and little time. Valve may think that Portal 2 is some kind of second coming of christ or something but in reality its just another game.

    Just another game that a lot of people want to play...Valve is honestly just using the hype created by the players to hype Portal 2.
     
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    News Comments > Portal 2 Watch
    37. Re: Portal 2 Watch Apr 17, 2011, 01:26 DarkCntry
     
    DragonKP wrote on Apr 17, 2011, 01:21:
    Rilcon wrote on Apr 16, 2011, 22:25:
    The bitter, the entitlement... I can practically taste it all the way over here.

    qq some more, please.

    qq? what the fuck is this? some sort of dairy queen forum? qq???? I can practically taste your homosexual sense of gaming all the way over here.

    I think you need to enter college. Earn your sense of bitter entitlement. Oh, and a good healthy portion of go F yourself.

    If this reply isn't a joke, then I weep for society as a whole...
     
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    News Comments > Penny Arcade Interview
    3. Re: Penny Arcade Interview Apr 17, 2011, 01:10 DarkCntry
     
    starmonkey wrote on Apr 17, 2011, 00:55:
    Not sure that having a workaholic boss is that awesome to have

    The boss being a workaholic is good, having a boss that wants you to be a workaholic is bad.

    That said, the Prank episodes should show you the kind of person the Khoo really is.
     
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    News Comments > Portal 2 Countdown Explained
    29. Re: Portal 2 Countdown Explained Apr 15, 2011, 18:39 DarkCntry
     
    Icewind wrote on Apr 15, 2011, 17:31:
    DarkCntry wrote on Apr 15, 2011, 15:50:
    Verno wrote on Apr 15, 2011, 15:44:
    I don't ever plan on playing it on the PS3 so I just bought it for Steam. Portal with a controller just doesn't appeal to me.

    I might play it with my girlfriend split-screen CO-Op on the PS3...

    Yeah, if you ever get a girlfriend.
    Eh, we're back to posturing on the internet? What is this, 1996?

    Tumbler wrote on Apr 15, 2011, 17:44:

    I might play it with my girlfriend split-screen CO-Op on the PS3...

    I'm hoping this as well but I'm doubting they'll allow this, the online code for the ps3 will likely allow that copy, ps3 or pc, to play online. But if I can play it on my pc and my brother in law can use the ps3 copy then that will be awesome.

    As Meat pointed out, I was particularly talking about the split-screen co-op on the PS3. It won't be possible to use the linked PC version and play at the same time, as it has to be linked to your Steam account and that can only have one game token active at a time.
     
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    News Comments > Portal 2 Countdown Explained
    22. Re: Portal 2 Countdown Explained Apr 15, 2011, 15:50 DarkCntry
     
    Verno wrote on Apr 15, 2011, 15:44:
    I don't ever plan on playing it on the PS3 so I just bought it for Steam. Portal with a controller just doesn't appeal to me.

    I might play it with my girlfriend split-screen CO-Op on the PS3...
     
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    News Comments > Battlefield 3 Trailer
    1. Re: Battlefield 3 Trailer Apr 15, 2011, 15:37 DarkCntry
     
    Maybe I missed it (quite probable), or maybe it's because I'm tired...

    But is the 12 minute 'trailer' just going to be a single collection of the currently released ones?
     
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    News Comments > Portal 2 Countdown Explained
    19. Re: Portal 2 Countdown Explained Apr 15, 2011, 15:34 DarkCntry
     
    Giller wrote on Apr 15, 2011, 15:29:
    Besides that has blues been over-ran with console lobbyist? Who wants to play portal on the ps3 or xbox when they can get it for PC on steam, and play it early once the PC community works together to open it up?

    Bit melodramatic, aren't we?

    People that want to play a game on a specific platform doesn't make them any less of a person for not wanting to play it on the same platform as you.

    I buy what is going to get me the best value for my buck...and that is basically the PS3 version. I hold no allegiance to any platform, I hold more allegiance to my money.
     
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    News Comments > Portal 2 Countdown Explained
    8. Re: Portal 2 Countdown Explained Apr 15, 2011, 13:36 DarkCntry
     
    SpectralMeat wrote on Apr 15, 2011, 13:25:
    DarkCntry wrote on Apr 15, 2011, 13:19:
    Amazon's deals for the console versions is the best (effectively making it $35)...especially if you want to suck it up, get the PS3 version, and take the free PC/Mac version.

    How do you get that deal? The game (PS3 version) is coming up as $54.99 for me.

    You get a $20 credit when you pre-order either the PS3 or 360 version.

    Get a $20 Amazon.com Credit
    Pre-order Portal 2 for PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 and receive $5 off the original price of $59.99 as well as $20 in promotional credit toward the purchase of items shipped and sold by Amazon.com.

    It's a post-credit, which is why I said "effectively"
     
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    News Comments > Portal 2 Countdown Explained
    3. Re: Portal 2 Countdown Explained Apr 15, 2011, 13:19 DarkCntry
     
    descender wrote on Apr 15, 2011, 13:12:
    Where is it cheaper? It's $55/$45 everywhere... and if you buy the potato sack/portal 2 bundle you get portal 2 for $40.

    Amazon's deals for the console versions is the best (effectively making it $35)...especially if you want to suck it up, get the PS3 version, and take the free PC/Mac version.
     
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