Verno wrote on Aug 3, 2011, 09:28:
Battlelog isn't godawful or anything, it has basically everything that the BC2 browser did. That being said its still launching a game through the web browser which feels like adding an extra (unnecessary) step to getting into the game itself. It requires installation of two plugins which I'm not a fan of either, I don't want EA/Valve/whoever having any form of plugin in my web browser as they cannot be trusted. It's also married to the EA backend which is very problematic considering EAs limited support for many of their online titles and goes against their claimed support for platform agnostic solutions. Implementation left a lot to be desired in alpha too - launching BF3 via Origin launched Battlelog which launched Origin again when you chose a server. You couldn't even run BF3.exe standalone as people claim is possible with Origin, hopefully that's just an alpha limitation but answers like the above make me a bit weary.

It may or may not be a deal breaker for a lot of people but I suspect a fair number of people still want their in-game server browsers on the PC which is this titles lead SKU. They would do well to heed that.

fatguy wrote on Aug 3, 2011, 16:26:
WONT SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?

My favorite form of censorship are the RO servers, and other games' servers, that kick/ban for harsh language. While the innocent children pretend to mass murder hundreds or even thousands of others while decapitating and blowing their limbs off, we must protect their virgin ears from the harsh evil sounds/letters of a curse word... Ugh... censorship...

Oh yea, and god forbid there's a nip slip! The children may as well be anally raped by satan himself if they see that.

elefunk wrote on Aug 3, 2011, 02:03:
From the second that Origin was announced I never expected it to be anything less than what Steamworks is for Valve games. Origin is *the* friends list, *the* server browser, *the* community integration, and more. It doesn't make sense that you would require a web browser to launch the game, that would be pretty stupid even by EA's standards. It'll be integrated right with the game. Much like how Steamworks uses a web browser for much of its stuff in-game and out-of-game.

Like it, hate it, whatever, but that's almost certainly what it'll be. And personally for me, I'd rather have a fully integrated system like that than some Gamespy shit or half-baked EA account system that Bad Company 2 had.

Sepharo wrote on Aug 3, 2011, 00:24:
Not going to play in the alpha for BF3, I'll wait until a few days into release probably so the server browser might be more stable.

jacobvandy wrote on Aug 3, 2011, 00:13:
I'm going by this fabulously slippery answer from yesterday:

@Demize99 @zh1nt0 will we be able to play the final game without having to use a web browser?

@ChrisSchewanick Battelog is an integral feature to the Battlefield 3 experience on the PC.

http://twitter.com/#!/Demize99/statuses/97951424561942528

JAGUART wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 14:16:

Creston wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 11:00:

Yeah, not the brightest decision.
Unbelievable. This is the kind of title you need to release in July when there's nothing else to play and people will pick it up because they're bored.

Creston

Oh come on guys, you all know what November means since at least 1995. Now we're gonna criticize classic November game releases too?

jacobvandy wrote on Aug 3, 2011, 00:00:
No matter what, you have to launch the game from the Battlelog website anyway.

OldScho0l wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 20:52:
In the Alpha, I played as a sniper until I unlocked the Bipod and I got most of my points per round by spamming Q as I looked around the BF with my 12x scope.

Sepharo wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 18:47:
The only gun I use in BC2 (and BC2:V) is the M1 Garand. It's neat because I can use it with any class but I'm mostly engineer.

So in a roundabout way I'm playing the same build I played in 1942.

Engie with M1, bazooka, and repair.

It has the same stats in BC2 and BC2:V except a little bit faster.

eunichron wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 23:28:

Rattlehead wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 20:14:
Been playing the alpha, great fun and runs on my laptop smoothly.

The alpha was supposedly only running DX9 and locked at low settings (or at least settings lower than maximum). My only complaint with the graphics was that they were kind of bland, hopefully that changes with DX11 and higher settings, but even at DX9 it looked pretty damn good.

Overon wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 18:01:

Kosumo wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 17:36:

Overon wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 17:33:
Pre-ordering games is for rubes unless you played the beta and/or you know you are going to buy it anyway so you might as well get the extras.

Damnit Kosumo it is not irrational to preorder a game that you are going to buy anyway. So rather than paying full price, you might as well get a discount and extras that YOU WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN OTHERWISE IF YOU DID NOT PREORDER.

Verno wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 14:08:
Bitch at devs for balance issues, not players. People use LMGs a lot because they're effective in a wide variety of situations. That's a weapon balance problem, not a player base issue.

bhcompy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 12:10:

Teddy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 11:33:

bhcompy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 11:06:
LMG whores are the worst whores. Seriously, die in a newb fire

Who is this retard? Because I chose to play a medic to try and help my team that makes me a "newb"?

Perhaps you misunderstand the concept of Battlefield games.

You complained that it took too many hits from a weapon with a 100-200 shot clip with no cool down and a tactical scope to improve accuracy. I'd say that's being a newb. The biggest reason BF infantry has always sucked ass is because of LMG whoring

InBlack wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 09:48:
I put a lot of hours into shooters in my life (probably more than any other game) ever since Doom2 so I resent that Mr. Batman.

Have you played CoD4:MW? Until you get some of the goodies that are only available after a good deal of playing (especially the scopes) YOU WILL get your ass handed right back to you regardless of skill.

bhcompy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 11:06:
LMG whores are the worst whores. Seriously, die in a newb fire

DangerDog wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 03:47:

InBlack wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 03:43:
So....this game sounds more and more like an MMO....Will we have to grind to unlock the AK-47?

Probably not the AK, but yes I'm sure there will be lots of grinding to be had to unlock weapons.

OldScho0l wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 02:10:
@Teddy
It has always been an option in BC2. It's considered a casual feature where as Hardcore servers have it disabled. 2D spotting is enabled via the map, but Hardcore doesn't have the mini map and you have to actually open your map to see the 2D spots. I only play on Hardcore mode in BC2 because I hate the 3D spotting and insane damage a player can take in casual mode. The Alpha was casual mode.

I had a total blast playing BF3! Now I'm wishing that prone could be added into BC2.

Nate wrote on Aug 1, 2011, 23:12:
After many hours this weekend, I'd definitely say BF3 is worth $50.

The $60 price tag is a little on the painful side. I'll probably pre-order it on Origin.