I can hardly wait for the paid "Character power level to 80 service" and the paid "Uber gear service"!!!

Well it's like every MMO launch but it was pretty much the same for City of Heroes, you see some amazing themed characters, but you also see alot of these 'ok wtf were they thinking' characters that only happen at launch, and I too am like the guy eating pop-corn, it's too damn funny not to stop and watch.

People don't have time to play two MMOs. The people that do have time are jobless and probably can't afford it or flunking out of college and eventually will realize their predicament.

Beta showed the game for the epic fail it is.

There was a much needed nerf of quite a few defensive and passive powers, but also some of them are a bit too harsh. The XP curve has been increased again, but for people like myself I'm on the 2nd XP curve (nerfed) and not getting enough XP to be where I should be for the missions I am doing.

Your opinion however is completely meaningless to me.

Meh. I'll take my $40 and buy Guild Wars 2. No extra fees, no bullshit, no nadagameplay.

A few major problems with this pre-launch Lifetime Sub for me....

1. It's being published by Atari which has been in the news for being in a bad financial condition for awhile now and this is their first subscription game.

2. I have yet to hear anything good about this game in its current state.

3. That they are putting the "lifetime" subscription offer on the table only before the game goes live makes it seem that even they have little faith in the game gaining subscriptions or even sustaining them post-launch.

Wow, you folks have really been traumatized by Bill Roper. Maybe you should seek counseling.

Yeah, but the Bungie of old is long gone. All they do now is make one Halo game after another. If that's what they enjoy doing, more power to them, but somehow I doubt it...

Only idiots buy lifetime subs.

As a 5 year City of Heroes vet (Beta included) I did purchase a lifetime subscription. And no I did not purchase one for Hellgate London.
I honestly believe even if the game only is around 14 months (the cost of the lifetime sub to subscribe monthly) it would be worth it. Cryptic has proven with City of Heroes they can have a great game and deliver good free content on a regular basis, and since they don't have to make all the content to please the Hero and Villain sides of the game the content should be quite solid.

The game itself is great and quite a nice improvement to what Cryptic had offered, and what Paragon Studios has currently done with City of Heroes.
As it stands right now you can make a new character in City of X, skip past the tutorial and make your way to the nearest Aeon Entertainment Building and farm your way to max level with little or no effort on the players part. You could also reach Max level in as little as 1 or 2 days with never experiencing any of the content.

And if you think it's a marketing ploy or not, the Cryptic Team didn't send out a press release about running out of Lifetime Subscriptions, because they underestimated the popularity and demand for it. Simular to how Blizzard underestimated how many subscribers they were going to get when the game launched and had insufficient servers to handle the load.

And for the Bill Roper naysayers out there, I'm pretty sure Flagship Studios would have allowed well over 1000 lifetime subscribers had there been enough idiots to actually purchase one for Hellgate London.

i've played both lotro and ddo, they're both fairly dry eq-clones. who would replace them as ddo devs? could be a positive development.

I did 120 hours in Fallout 3 and never felt bored. You really need an imagination.

I lay blame for the lack of information regarding this DLC prior to its release all the ills in the world squarely at EA's Game Publishers' Bill Roper's feet.

I trust you're sawing off your left nut right now, Riker?

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