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48. Re: etc., etc. Oct 19, 2014, 02:54 Prez
 
You know sdgundamx, you lecture others on attacking the person and not refuting the message but ironically that is all I see you do. You have not presented one single solitary counter argument to Thunderfoot's points. You did not offer a single rebuttal to any of Christina Summers points yesterday. For someone who complains about it happening to Sarkeesian you sure don't waste time doing it to someone else. Anita's videos are garbage. I can go through each one and systematically pick apart each point that she makes and refute it with easily-found facts. But then you would just question my mental ability. Oh wait - you already did that. That others have already done exactly what you are asking for apparently doesn't register for you. I guess you think that this debate here on Blues only started once you joined it? Should we all go back and re-make all of our points, the ones we made before you graced us with your presence, for your benefit?

You also keep moving the goal posts. First no one was countering any of her arguments. Now people are only countering one of her arguments. Videos have been posted pointing out just how wrong she is but because you don't like the people making them the whole lot of them are null and void. You won't be satisfied until someone breaks down each point she makes, no matter how stupid, and spells it out for you why she is wrong -politely- I guess? Even then, I doubt you would be satisfied. My guess is that you know that no one here is actually going to take the time to do such a herculean task since we have better ways to spend our free time and don't have the benefit of kickstarter money (espectially when so many of her points are face-palm worthy and shouldn't need to be rebutted). So I guess you think you can therefore "win" because no one can rise to your challenge, thus we are all just Anita-hating morons. The fact is the onus is on her to try to make a coherent argument, not on us to try to pick them apart. Thus far she has come woefully short of that. You may agree with her message but if her facts, her methodology, and her logic are dishonest and wrong-headed (as they continue to be) that just isn't going to cut it for those of us not readily pre-disposed to her line of thinking. The gamergate issue came about when the media not only failed to call her out on her many fallacies she presents as truth, but actively ignored the opposition despite their responsibility to present all sides of an issue. They have abandoned their journalistic integrity in the name of agendas and activism.

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37. Re: etc. Oct 18, 2014, 22:06 Prez
 
sdgundamx wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 21:54:

Okay, so you agree that all GG supporters need to shut up about the death threats they're receiving? If not, why not?

They don't have the media on their side so they get no positive gain out of it - I suppose they are doing it for some sort of counterpoint. But honestly, they can STFU as well - I doubt any of it is credible. At any rate I am not a GG supporter; I am someone who finds the media's behavior in the last several months utterly deplorable. I identify with no group.
 
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10. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 18, 2014, 22:00 Prez
 
nin wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 21:27:
Alamar wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 21:10:
I love honest trailers, and that one was great too ; )

Yeah, it pretty much sums up exactly why I have zero interest in that series.


Same, and same. The honest game trailers are consistently brilliant. "'Challenging' in the way breaking bricks with your flacid penis is challenging" LMAO! So epic! Rotfl
 
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35. Re: etc. Oct 18, 2014, 21:49 Prez
 
I don't have a problem with anyone taking the steps they feel necessary to ensure their own safety. That's common sense. However, I find playing the sympathy card to be sickening. "Oh look, poor me - I got an anonymous death threat - let me post it all over my social network pages so everyone can give me all kinds of positive coverage and exposure!" That's just BS. You seem tho think it is a matter of simple opportunism; I find it reprehensible because professional victims like Quinn and Sarkeesian, and now this tool at Polygon, use it as a tool for discrediting all opposition, including moderate and logical opposition. Invariably the "woe is me" sympathy parade leads to unfair parallels being drawn when those in the media shamelessly play it up to paint all opposition with a broad brush because they are NOT impartial, but extremist activists. That is to say nothing that there is enough evidence to suggest at least some of these supposed threats are fabrications; I certainly wouldn't put it past people of such poor character as Sarkeesian and Quinn. There is a sizeable amount of evidence showing their documented lack of integrity so don't even start with the character assassination comments.  
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33. Re: etc. Oct 18, 2014, 21:34 Prez
 
The same thing the rest of us do when we are threatened by dickless 13 year olds behind the anonymity of the Internet. Ignore it, or if you want a slim chance of maybe them getting in trouble for it, forward it to the authorities and go about your life.

You know how many cases there are of someone on the Internet getting mad because they disagreed with someone, and then finding them and killing them? I don't even know. I can only think of a couple, ever. The two I'm thinking of were in Korea and China respectively, and in both cases the people were already personally acquainted. It just happened to be an Internet disagreement that set them off.

Sorry, but this fantasy people have of some angry nerd finding them and killing them for liking what they don't like is just not something that people need to be worried about. That's just a fact. There is no data to support that there are real risks of this happening. What few "internet creepo kills someone" stories there are, it's usually some psychopath luring someone to his house, or some stalker obsessing over someone for years. It's like living in fear of getting hit by a meteor.

Thanks NKD for saving me the trouble of typing that out. Well said. At most I would see myself reporting it to the police. What I find dubious is when an unfounded claim of some ambiguous threat ended up on Quinn's or Sarkeesian's Twitter pages and they get all kinds of sympathy from the media, and, more importantly, positive exposure. Proffesional victims.
 
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28. Re: etc. Oct 18, 2014, 19:18 Prez
 
Elf Shot The Food wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 19:11:
I'm sure it's a nice editorial, but I won't read it. At least not on Polygon's site.
Good on ya. I wish I hadn't read it myself.
Squirmer wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 18:39:
NKD wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 15:38:
For many of our staff, myself included, GamerGate presented enough of a perceived danger that we were scared for ourselves and our families. (Notable fact I remind myself of often: There are 14 children among the Polygon staff, including two under the age of 1).

That's right guys. If you have concerns about how game journalists go about their business, you're literally a child murderer. Even newborns.
GGers accuse the other side of being professional victims, but then you go and say a thing like that.

Call me biased but I don't agree that's a fair parallel. Moreover, unless NKD has made that specific claim, I don't think it is fair to attribute the words of others to him specifically. I often refer to Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian as professional victims because any persecution, be it real or fabricated, furthers their causes so they play it for all its worth. It's not a term I use generally about "the other side" as you put it. I find the section that NPD quoted to be nothing but sympathy-fishing melodrama.

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133. Re: etc. Oct 18, 2014, 19:13 Prez
 
sdgundamx wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 12:01:
Prez wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 03:06:
Where I see the problem occurring is if a website claims that it is a site for gaming and then has a bunch of pictures of scantily clad women. That's implicitly sending the message that gaming is only for hetero boys and the site is going to ignore the female/homosexual gamers.

So a website needs to claim that it's for hetero men for this to be okay? Somehow I think you and your ilk would still bitch about it. Hell, I would think that would be inherently obvious if they are showing pictures of hot scantily dressed women. (EDIT: Of course one could argue it is also geared towards lesbian gamers...) The way I see it, if you have a problem with sites like Action Trip which proudly posts a new "babe of the day" (today's is awesome too) then in the name of consistency you should have a problem with Vogue, Self, Glamour, and other rags for women because they ignore the hetero/homosexual male. Most websites cater to all types of gamers so what the hell is wrong with having a few that focus on a select group?

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Well our first interaction began with you making baseless assumptions about my intelligence when I wasn't even speaking to you, so yeah, that was a good way to get on my bad side. But you apologized, so I will temper my tone.

I don't get the 'disingenuous' claim. If we continue to use Action Trip as an example, they do reviews, previews, editorials, and contests for everyone just like any gaming website. They do not constantly make sophomoric remarks or drool over every woman or obsess how "hot" she is. Any female, homosexual, or sensitive male can read the majority of the site without issue. They have a link (usually at the bottom of their home page) to the "babe of the day" but you don't have to click on it. If the very existence of such a thing turns you off to the site at large, like I said there are many alternatives. The shots are extremely tasteful and the subjects don't seem to mind, so I fail to see the problem. I don't classify it as viewing women "as pieces of meat" to use Beamer's words, and I don't understand how someone else could. If that's the case then every time your wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend/mate/partner gets you aroused is it to be assumed that you are viewing them as a piece of meat too? At what point is okay to satisfy natural and normal human impulses?
 
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25. Re: etc. Oct 18, 2014, 18:20 Prez
 
harlock wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 17:45:
dont bother posting any dissenting opionions on polygon btw

their moderators are nazis

That's par for the course, so I'm not surprised.
 
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15. Re: Star Trek Online Expands Oct 18, 2014, 18:19 Prez
 
The Half Elf wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 18:01:
Prez wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 17:00:
Thanks for all the replies!

Prez if you check out Star Trek Online, let me know via steam and I'll send you a invite to a Fleet I co-founded. We are Lifers and have a really good solid (yet smaller fleet) with maxxed out guild starbase and very knowledgeable people who will happy help ya with anything you need.

Awesome! I'll keep that in mind, thanks!!
 
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13. Re: Star Trek Online Expands Oct 18, 2014, 17:00 Prez
 
Thanks for all the replies!  
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16. Re: etc. Oct 18, 2014, 13:07 Prez
 
As usual taking no responsibility for not providing even coverage or any examination of the supposed problems, just an assumption of guilt posed at an entire audience.

Yep. That was what I was looking for but not a word of it, just more of the same inflammatory crap. What a douchebag.

One thing from the editorial really stood out thought. It was the idea that gaming media is going to fracture (much as broadcast media did) into different channels for different people. So for example, people who want a conservative spin on their gaming news will go to one site and those who want a progressive spin will go to another.

Dammit I don't want spin, I want NEWS. This is why I don't watch the vast majority of mainstream news outlets.
 
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1. Re: Star Trek Online Expands Oct 18, 2014, 10:31 Prez
 
Never tried this. How is it? Is it grindy? P2W? Can I solo?  
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126. Re: etc. Oct 18, 2014, 03:32 Prez
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 03:24:
Prez, I'd also like to formally say, I apologize for when I was a dick to you in the past. I can't say you never deserved it, because I don't remember why, but I can say you probably didn't. I was probably just being entirely a dick. We don't see eye to eye on everything, but you clearly put thought into things and I have a ton of respect for it.

No worries. I remember having you blocked for a while but that seemed kind of childish. I don't mind disagreeing when there is a mutual respect shared.

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124. Re: etc. Oct 18, 2014, 03:06 Prez
 
Where I see the problem occurring is if a website claims that it is a site for gaming and then has a bunch of pictures of scantily clad women. That's implicitly sending the message that gaming is only for hetero boys and the site is going to ignore the female/homosexual gamers.

So a website needs to claim that it's for hetero men for this to be okay? Somehow I think you and your ilk would still bitch about it. Hell, I would think that would be inherently obvious if they are showing pictures of hot scantily dressed women. (EDIT: Of course one could argue it is also geared towards lesbian gamers...) The way I see it, if you have a problem with sites like Action Trip which proudly posts a new "babe of the day" (today's is awesome too) then in the name of consistency you should have a problem with Vogue, Self, Glamour, and other rags for women because they ignore the hetero/homosexual male. Most websites cater to all types of gamers so what the hell is wrong with having a few that focus on a select group?

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1. Re: etc., etc. Oct 17, 2014, 21:58 Prez
 
Still shaking my head at a Minecraft film. Nope, no way that is going to suck. Rolleyes  
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2. Re: Evening Tech Bits Oct 17, 2014, 21:56 Prez
 
Does this mean we will have to lock the games at 15fps?  
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12. Re: Morning Crowdfunding Roundup Oct 17, 2014, 20:28 Prez
 
I'm kind of over Half-Life 3 now. If Valve ever decides to make it and it is awesome I'll most definitely buy it, but I just don't see it happening, at least not in the way we all want it to. Valve may farm it out or find a way to make it another F2P hat simulator.  
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121. Re: etc. Oct 17, 2014, 20:16 Prez
 

But, again, things come down to trends. Someone telling one racist joke isn't necessarily a racist. Someone telling many racist jokes almost definitely is.

I don't necessarily agree. But the more important part I think is to make a distinction between appreciating the human form and telling racially charged jokes. The former is natural and not at all off-putting to me, while the latter makes me squirm a bit when I hear it because of the consequences it can have.
 
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20. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 17, 2014, 20:12 Prez
 
WOMAN LEARNS HER BLACK LAB IS ALLERGIC TO HUMANS

I have the same affliction.
 
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118. Re: etc. Oct 17, 2014, 20:04 Prez
 
Yeah, you are right -it was Escapist, not Gamasutra. My mistake.

...one that has a lovely "GIRLS!" section and runs regular articles on hot female teachers sleeping with students.

Not surprisingly, they're considered one of the few "pro-GG" sites.

See, this is what I don't get. So if you have a site geared towards gaming males, and you show images of the beautiful female form, "naturally" you are pro Gamergate, and by extension, misogynist. I cannot get that logic. I don't find it to be sexist that guys like seeing images of gorgeous women, any more than I view seeing my hundreds of female Facebook friends pass around images of mostly naked strapping men as sexist. I view it as human.

EDIT: And before anyone asks, I have hundreds of female Facebook friends because I work in animal rescue which for reasons I won't go into is predominantly female (we are talking by a factor of 20 to 1 by my estimation), and I network with rescues across the country.

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