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News Comments > Into the Black
32. Re: Into the Black Apr 17, 2015, 11:00 Orogogus
 
1badmf wrote on Apr 17, 2015, 03:47:
Creston wrote on Apr 17, 2015, 01:18:
1badmf wrote on Apr 17, 2015, 01:07:
the dialogue of the originals was always at least charming with Ford and Fisher delivering them with confident aplomb.

The original series was better, but even it wasn't the greatest where dialogue was concerned.


right, and a lot of the same lines were delivered in the prequels to catastrophic results. but coming out of the deliveries of the original cast they somehow became natural and spontaneous. i think harrison ford could make dr. seuss sound natural and spontaneous. come to think of it, i'd be REALLY curious to see him do Shakespeare, whether it'd be an unmitigated disaster or if he could achieve an american naturalness that no one's seen before.

i particularly remember leia's speech on the eve of the evacuation of hoth about the ion cannon firing several shots, how it was so long and technical, and yet she pulled it off like she was a professor teaching a class.

the lines as written were probably overly dense and verbose but the cast just made it come to life; something the prequel cast couldn't ever do. maybe it was that they had worse lines, but i think some of it is that they weren't as good as the original cast as well.

You seem to be dancing around the elephant in the room that's Mark Hamill. I love his voice work from the 90s on, but his lines in the trilogy were pretty bad. Although, having watched the deleted scenes I have to say they left the worst stuff on the cutting room floor.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
21. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 16, 2015, 18:07 Orogogus
 
Visions of genius or no, my parents thought the original films were kiddie junk when they came out, and their opinion hasn't really mellowed with age. They're kind of condescending regarding the fact that I still like them now.  
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News Comments > Grand Theft Auto V Steam Records
12. Re: Grand Theft Auto V Steam Records Apr 16, 2015, 13:27 Orogogus
 
SpectralMeat wrote on Apr 16, 2015, 13:24:
Orogogus wrote on Apr 16, 2015, 13:22:
Also, I'm pretty sure a fair fraction of those people didn't pay $60. There have been deals going on for $30-46, right on launch day.
I think he was referring to the Steam version which hasn't been on sale.

Oh, that's right; I forgot that was a thing this time around.
 
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News Comments > Grand Theft Auto V Steam Records
10. Re: Grand Theft Auto V Steam Records Apr 16, 2015, 13:22 Orogogus
 
jdreyer wrote on Apr 16, 2015, 13:06:
Frags4Fun wrote on Apr 16, 2015, 11:28:
Yup, PC gaming is dead.

Edit: With just those concurrent users and the gaming being $60, they've already made over $18 million. I bet that they have actually made much more than that.

I agree PC gaming isn't dead, but it's no secret why they don't launch initially on PC. These numbers are a fraction of what they did on consoles.

Also, I'm pretty sure a fair fraction of those people didn't pay $60. There have been deals going on for $30-46, right on launch day.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
14. Re: Into the Black Apr 15, 2015, 21:12 Orogogus
 
I think the implication in this thread is fanatic, not shill; no one seems to be saying that nin is merely posing as a genuine customer, or that he has some kind of financial interest at stake.  
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News Comments > Morning Safety Dance
17. Re: Morning Safety Dance Apr 15, 2015, 20:40 Orogogus
 
Flatline wrote on Apr 15, 2015, 16:14:
Orogogus wrote on Apr 15, 2015, 16:09:
I don't think the police have enough evidence for the DA to do anything. From the article, it seems the investigation was initiated and handled by the TSA, who let the victim walk away unidentified. That's a poor start, and finding said victim would be unreasonably difficult.

That's still kind of bullshit though. You have the video of the act occurring blatantly. Get the chick who was the accomplice to testify in order to not get prosecuted, which shouldn't be hard she already told a news station what happened, and that's enough to convict the dude.

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that the case against the lady collaborator depends heavily on her own self-incriminating testimony, which she can opt not to provide on the stand, or she can change her story. As far as I can tell she never told the police directly, nor the news station, only the TSA investigator. Unless it's in the news video, as I didn't watch it; but the article doesn't name her so I assume not.

There's a clear incentive for her to lie, and not much to testify against the guy. Or the guy can lie, and it's her word against his. And there's certainly no incentive for him at this point to turn evidence against her.

The video is unchangeable, at least, but without the accomplice's testimony (or that of the anonymous tipster) it doesn't seem very strong, especially if the victim doesn't actually look violated in the video. The guy would just lie and deny the hand signal, then say he didn't understand TSA procedures.
 
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News Comments > Morning Safety Dance
13. Re: Morning Safety Dance Apr 15, 2015, 16:09 Orogogus
 
I don't think the police have enough evidence for the DA to do anything. From the article, it seems the investigation was initiated and handled by the TSA, who let the victim walk away unidentified. That's a poor start, and finding said victim would be unreasonably difficult.  
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News Comments > Grand Theft Auto V PC Launch Schedule
239. Re: Grand Theft Auto V PC Launch Schedule Apr 14, 2015, 23:01 Orogogus
 
jdreyer wrote on Apr 14, 2015, 17:22:
SpectralMeat wrote on Apr 14, 2015, 14:23:
jdreyer wrote on Apr 14, 2015, 14:21:
This is one of the longest front page threads since, since, since Gamergate!
What about Elite?

I thought that wasn't a front page thread, which is why I used those words. I thought it was a general discussion forum post. Am I remembering wrong?

Well, yes. How would a general discussion forum post ever get that many posts? Those are lucky to break 20.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
9. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 14, 2015, 21:24 Orogogus
 
killer_roach wrote on Apr 14, 2015, 21:18:
Science fiction has had an ideology issue ever since Asimov's spiteful attitude toward Heinlein. Ever since most of the genre's standard-bearers have been pretty staunchly to the political left - even, until very recently, Orson Scott Card, who is now regarded somewhere between persona non grata and an apostate of the highest order.

Is that a recent thing? I feel like Card's books got kind of unreadably preachy before there was much Internet to go around, around the mid-90s. I remember reading the fourth Alvin Maker book and Ender's Shadow, and thinking, geeze, this guy's found religion, which apparently was exactly the case. And that was about 20 years ago.
 
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News Comments > Saturday Crowdfunding Roundup
22. Re: Saturday Crowdfunding Roundup Apr 11, 2015, 22:50 Orogogus
 
ViRGE wrote on Apr 11, 2015, 16:47:
But just keeping an eye on the last few hours of the campaign, something feels wrong. When you crossed $600K a few hours beforehand and still ended up barely making it (by 0.3%), that's a bit odd.

I'd assume that's from people worried about it not reaching its funding target, but who don't really care about the stretch goals (or don't expect it to hit any of the stretch targets). I mean, there's a reward at $600K but none until $625K. It doesn't seem that surprising to me that people would check in and A) see that it's not at $600K yet but close and donate, or B) see that it hit $600K, and not donate.

What does seem weird is the total going down. But Kicktraq shows spikes in backers and comments corresponding to the donation spikes in the last 3 days. If the developers really did pour into their own Kickstarter it seems like they would have had to create a few hundred dummy accounts and sock puppets; that kind of thing seems like it would be easily detectable by Kickstarter (and I'm pretty sure I read that they forbid project owners from topping off their own projects).
 
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News Comments > Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Cinematic
34. Re: Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Cinematic Apr 9, 2015, 12:29 Orogogus
 
I didn't know this wasn't common knowledge at this point, but if you want to save Paul, (spoiler) don't go through the window. That's it.  
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
13. Re: Evening Tech Bits Apr 9, 2015, 01:01 Orogogus
 
jimnms wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 21:23:
I'm calling the article BS for claiming it's optional. If it were optional, it would be optional not recommended.

Huh? If it weren't optional, it would be mandatory, not recommended. Like how most Steam games don't give you a choice about whether to download and install their updates.
 
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News Comments > Euro Truck Simulator 2 Expansion Next Month
10. Re: Euro Truck Simulator 2 Expansion Next Month Apr 9, 2015, 00:56 Orogogus
 
Rhino wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 23:46:
I feel like there is a greater honesty about what Euro Truck Simulator 2 is than there was about Elite. Yes, much of that may just be in my head

I think it's not just you, but I also feel like everyone saying this never played the old Elite games, either. Elite 2 and 3 were practically the same space-trucking game as E:D, and while the original Elite had more arcadey combat it was still very much an empty sandbox.

I'm guessing people's expectations come from games like WoW, GTA and Skyrim, where there are quests everywhere and story missions to give you something to do. Elite, especially 2 and 3, was always about flying a spaceship and not a whole lot else. From the interviews with Ian Bell, I gather Bell (who left after the first game) was more interested in making an exciting game, while Braben wanted the space simulator. But from what I've read at least the combat in E:D is a lot better now (i.e., actually fun) than it was in Elite 2 and 3.
 
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News Comments > Star Control Reboot FAQ
16. Re: Star Control Reboot FAQ Apr 8, 2015, 18:27 Orogogus
 
jdreyer wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 16:11:
I can't recall if I played Starflight 1 or 2, but IIRC they were pretty different from the MOO series. Starflight was adventure and exploration in a single ship, whereas MOO was 4x.

Are there any modern games that are similar to the Starflight series? I adored that game back in the day and lost many hours to it. I supposed E:D comes close?

E:D is basically the same game as Elite 2 and 3, with a modern engine. The lack of a campaign plot sets them pretty far apart from Starflight and Star Control; they're pure sandbox games that expect you to do a lot of Euro Trucking, in space.

I think the closest thing I've played recently (here meaning 2004) would be Space Rangers II. And Escape Velocity Nova 2 years before that. Last year's Starpoint Gemini might be in the same vein, but I haven't played it.
 
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News Comments > Star Control Reboot FAQ
8. Re: Star Control Reboot FAQ Apr 8, 2015, 12:55 Orogogus
 
Bundy wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 11:50:
Creston wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 10:14:
So isn't this basically GalCiv 3, just with different names?

Star Control wasn't always a 4X strategy. In the beginning it was an adventure. Then they ruined it.

I feel like you and the Burrito started with Star Control 2. Star Control 1 wasn't an adventure game; instead of an action-adventure-RPG overlaid on the melee game, it had a light turn-based 2-player strategy game. It wasn't really anything to write home about, though. The most notable thing about it was being able to find Precursor artifacts to power up your ships, boosting Mycon Podships to the point where they'd instantly ram their own plasma spheres.

EDIT: Here's a YouTube link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsWIYQfMpPw

I've been wondering out loud in all the threads regarding this new game -- why didn't Stardock just make whatever game they had in mind using their GalCiv universe instead of using the Star Control property? It's so bizarre. Not only are they rebooting the universe, not only are Ford and Reiche not on board, they don't even have rights to the aliens. They're making a Star Control without the Ur-Quan. Apparently Precursors aren't considered one of the protected alien races, and are fair game, but ancient spacefaring god-races aren't exactly unique to Star Control.

And as I've noted before, Star Control 2 was very similar to Starflight 1 and 2. Ford & Reiche and Accolade didn't need to buy any rights from EA to make SC2, they just basically made a Starflight spiritual successor without bothering to announce it as such, using their own races and spaceships. Wouldn't it have been just as easy for Stardock to do the same?

He explains the rights issues that will allow Stardock to use the name and concept...from the original games

It's entirely unclear to me what rights and what concept they bought. It doesn't really make any more sense to me than the Atari rebrand or XCOM Declassified, and I have to assume it's the same sort of thing at play here -- just buying people in with nostalgia.

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News Comments > Sunday Legal Briefs
9. Re: Sunday Legal Briefs Apr 6, 2015, 03:50 Orogogus
 
jdreyer wrote on Apr 6, 2015, 03:37:
Don't get me wrong, I don't feel bad for this guy at all. I am just disturbed by the trend overall that when a crime is committed on a computer that the punishments in general can be pretty far out of whack relative to other crimes. I wonder if I printed these women's photos out and stapled them to telephone poles around town, if I'd have gotten 18 years for that. The average sentence in the US for murder and manslaughter is 20 years. Is what he did as bad as killing someone? The sentence is nearly the same.

As for Bernie Madoff, he didn't get 150 years for white collar crime, he got 150 years for white collar crime against rich people.

It seems like you keep equating this as one offense/victim. If the guy had killed all those women instead of posting their private information and extorting them, I don't think there's any doubt that he'd be getting a life sentence, or the chair.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
6. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Apr 3, 2015, 16:01 Orogogus
 
I don't know, that article mentions how the deaf group went after Harvard and MIT for not providing subtitles for their free online courses, and it doesn't come across very sympathetically. It gives the impression that you can't do anything nice and free for the public without going through committees, lawyers, approvals and so on. Expecting a service is fine, legally obligating it and handing out punitive fines seems like another.  
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News Comments > GOG.com Reclaim Your Game Program
16. Re: GOG.com Reclaim Your Game Program Apr 2, 2015, 17:03 Orogogus
 
Haha, no, but I'm not surprised there's something like that because Internet. But you wouldn't expect there to be a fancy literary term for having to pick between two imperfect options; that's just life.

A Catch-22 would be like if a game could originally only go online with Gamespy, which got patched out but not replaced in 1.3, but then if you log on with 1.2 it tells you have an old version and kicks you out. It's that kind of circle of failure and misery that the term refers to.
 
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News Comments > GOG.com Reclaim Your Game Program
11. Re: GOG.com Reclaim Your Game Program Apr 2, 2015, 14:53 Orogogus
 
Task wrote on Apr 2, 2015, 14:32:
jdreyer wrote on Apr 2, 2015, 14:24:
But doesn't the 94 version have dynamic music?

It does, but doesn't have the upgraded graphics that 95 has ;). A catch-22 if you will. All versions have the same stellar gameplay of course, just a matter of personal preference.

An either/or situation isn't a Catch-22 at all.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
13. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Mar 31, 2015, 19:34 Orogogus
 
dubfanatic wrote on Mar 31, 2015, 18:36:
I am going to sue the teriyaki shop down the street for being closed on Sundays. Your holy day of rest is my inconvenience, and my appetite doesn't observe the Sabbath, shitlords.

That's also not a parallel construction. People are upset because customers aren't being treated equally. And probably because, in the case of the Washington state florist involved in this controversy, it doesn't seem like it should be the company's business what I'm going to do with a product I buy legally.

I mean, take EA or Valve. You do something they don't approve of on their forums or curse in game and get reported, they ban you and on top of that they refuse to sell you any more games; for the sake of fairness let's say they give your money back and refund past sales. That still doesn't seem like it would be cool at all. What if they blacklist you for defending someone who got banned, outside their forums? Or because you wanted to play Battlefield at your gay marriage reception?

It just seems like people sticking their nose in your business and saying it's okay because religion. Don't sell pink flowers? Sure. Not open on Sundays? Fair enough. Not going to sell me anything because I'm going to marry outside my faith? It seems like a line's been crossed.

I think the peyote case is different because so many people basically just don't believe in the war on drugs. If it had been almost any other law at stake it wouldn't have gone over well. If it had had anything to do with Islam we'd still be getting outraged emails about it now.
 
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