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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
5. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 21, 2015, 23:14 Orogogus
 
Asking non-rhetorically, how much damage could you do? I assume the car doesn't start shooting rockets or activate jump capability. Is it a matter of cars suddenly not working in the middle of the highway? What kind of malfunctions can you incur that wouldn't have happened with a non-computerized car?  
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News Comments > Grand Theft Auto V PC Launch Schedule
285. Re: Grand Theft Auto V PC Launch Schedule Apr 18, 2015, 17:13 Orogogus
 
I feel like virtually all the removed posts I see are by regulars with thousands of posts. People with a few hundred posts never jump in guns blazing.

And, you know, nothing happens. Like one or two guys who weren't bots have ever gotten banned. There's no time out, you don't get any privileges revoked, Blue doesn't even tell people to get back on topic. And there's no mystery figuring out the gist of a removed post; we get the idea. I can't understand how people can get into hysterics over this, getting into a mental state where "hypocrisy" gets flung around. Just copy and paste the exact same post and take out the part where you directly called the other guy names, done and move on.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
45. Re: Into the Black Apr 17, 2015, 18:00 Orogogus
 
@Creston:
The Imperials would know because the smugglers left. As in, they punched out and warped away according to plan before the Imperials could react. If they actually stuck around, that might have been worth mentioning. If they had enough ships to worry a task force in place to annihilate two sector fleets, that would also be key information. Instead, what Thrawn and Pellaeon are looking at grimly is two Rebel warships and a bunch of starfighters pouring into the shipyards.

For that matter, if that was Zahn's actual intent, it would have been more effective storytelling for the smugglers to actually decide to jump into the fight, not confusing the issue with defending the shipyards (which, again, the Imperials abandoned immediately once Thrawn was out of play). The whole business about Wedge planning to force the Imperials to split their fleet to defend the shipyard, the Imperials worrying about doing exactly that, and then the Imperials just up and leaving, makes no sense.

Unless they revised the book to fix this -- and to be honest, I would have -- I think you're inventing a reason that wasn't described in the actual book, which reads like Zahn very abruptly ran out of either time or allowable pages.

Also, the books spent some time hammering the point of how the superior Imperial fleet at Endor turned tail and ran because they were Force-linked to the Emperor until he died. But then the presumably also-superior fleet at Bilbringi flees after Thrawn's death, even though they weren't linked to him, nor to C'baoath. After spending time and words filling in this plot hole in RotJ, wouldn't it make sense not to end the climactic battle of your trilogy the exact same way?
 
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News Comments > Grand Theft Auto V PC Launch Schedule
265. Re: LOL at the 1st person FOV!!! Apr 17, 2015, 16:23 Orogogus
 
Krovven wrote on Apr 17, 2015, 15:53:
My complaint is the same as it always seems to be with you. Either moderate or don't. Why delete response posts and leave the original attack? Just because it wasn't reported? If you come to moderate one post, why would you not look at the others?

I don't want to read this crap, I don't see why Blue would.

It's clear you are selective and uneven with your moderation. You let people like your buddy nin make back handed attacks at people all the time. You ban someone every now and then when they get way beyond being out of hand. Other than that they just make new accounts and continue on.

I never understand why people with thousands of posts still get posts pulled and complain about it. Nin does get on people's cases, but usually doesn't make straight up personal attacks; merely snide generally gets a pass. But call someone names or tell them to go to hell, someone reports it and the post gets pulled. That's it. And yet a handful of people keep driving off this bridge and coming back to complain about it.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
38. Re: Into the Black Apr 17, 2015, 13:30 Orogogus
 
@Creston:

Didn't the smugglers leave? They were going to "punch out" with their prize; if they were going to stay around and fight, and if that was what had the Imperials so concerned, I don't remember that being conveyed in the text. Also, I didn't get the impression they were that scary a force compared to the battle fleets. The Rebels had, if I recall, something like "two sector fleets", which the Imperials were going to wipe out with their trap.

I distinctly remember that the problem was stated as having to defend the shipyards in addition to whatever else was going on, rather than actually being a losing battle.


EDIT: The relevant text:

"It could be," Aves said. "Or it couldn't. See, in about ninety seconds some of us are going to make a grab for the CGT array we came here to get. After that, it's a quick goodbye and we punch our way out."

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Wedge looked over at the lights, thinking it over. It could work, all right. If Aves' people were able to knock out even one of those Golan II's, it would open up the shipyard to a New Republic incursion. Unless the Imperials were willing to sacrifice it, they would have to shift some of their battle force over there to close the puncture and chase down any ships that had gotten in.

...

Pellaeon looked up at the viewports. At the chaos that had erupted behind the defenses of the supposedly secure shipyards; at the unexpected need to split his forces to its defense; at the Rebel fleet taking full advantage of the diversion. In the blink of an eye, the universe had suddenly turned against them.

EDIT 2: Did they retreat to the shipyards, to defend it? Again, if so that would be something not conveyed in the text.


This comment was edited on Apr 17, 2015, 13:43.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
35. Re: Into the Black Apr 17, 2015, 12:55 Orogogus
 
The Half Elf wrote on Apr 17, 2015, 12:26:
Creston wrote on Apr 17, 2015, 11:20:
The Half Elf wrote on Apr 17, 2015, 08:26:
]And finally, the expanded universe is now dead, until there is new books based on the movies. There is no Academy, no Anakin, Ben, Jacen and Jaina, no Mara Jade, no Talon Kardde.

The EU is actually alive and well. Disney didn't kill it, they've just said that it's not canon. The EU has even been rebooted, presumably to be able to take advantage of where the new movies go.

Well in reguards to the movies it's dead. As much as I would have loved to see Zahn's books made into the next trilogy.

People say that, but I've never really understood the sentiment. A great book doesn't necessarily make a good movie, and vice versa; I think the Thrawn trilogy is a good example. Good guys and villains being smart works well in a book but looks pretty dull on screen, where people want to see snappy action sequences and the good guys winning through the power of heart/teamwork/badass. The first two books see their exciting climaxes when (spoiler) Lando activates the mole miners, and Han steers a Dreadnaught into a mostly-immobile Star Destroyer. I don't think any amount of John Williams is going to get people super hyped up over that. Likewise, Vader is what audiences want in a movie villain.

While we're on the subject, though, I've never understood the ending of the last book. Spoilers: Okay, so the Rebels are breaking into the shipyard. And that's bad because now the Empire has to contain the main body of the Rebel fleet (I think) while also defending the shipyard. But Pellaeon calls a retreat after Thrawn dies. Doesn't this mean they give up both objectives instead of picking just one? The Rebel fleet gets away, and the shipyard is toast. What happened here?
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
32. Re: Into the Black Apr 17, 2015, 11:00 Orogogus
 
1badmf wrote on Apr 17, 2015, 03:47:
Creston wrote on Apr 17, 2015, 01:18:
1badmf wrote on Apr 17, 2015, 01:07:
the dialogue of the originals was always at least charming with Ford and Fisher delivering them with confident aplomb.

The original series was better, but even it wasn't the greatest where dialogue was concerned.


right, and a lot of the same lines were delivered in the prequels to catastrophic results. but coming out of the deliveries of the original cast they somehow became natural and spontaneous. i think harrison ford could make dr. seuss sound natural and spontaneous. come to think of it, i'd be REALLY curious to see him do Shakespeare, whether it'd be an unmitigated disaster or if he could achieve an american naturalness that no one's seen before.

i particularly remember leia's speech on the eve of the evacuation of hoth about the ion cannon firing several shots, how it was so long and technical, and yet she pulled it off like she was a professor teaching a class.

the lines as written were probably overly dense and verbose but the cast just made it come to life; something the prequel cast couldn't ever do. maybe it was that they had worse lines, but i think some of it is that they weren't as good as the original cast as well.

You seem to be dancing around the elephant in the room that's Mark Hamill. I love his voice work from the 90s on, but his lines in the trilogy were pretty bad. Although, having watched the deleted scenes I have to say they left the worst stuff on the cutting room floor.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
21. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 16, 2015, 18:07 Orogogus
 
Visions of genius or no, my parents thought the original films were kiddie junk when they came out, and their opinion hasn't really mellowed with age. They're kind of condescending regarding the fact that I still like them now.  
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News Comments > Grand Theft Auto V Steam Records
12. Re: Grand Theft Auto V Steam Records Apr 16, 2015, 13:27 Orogogus
 
SpectralMeat wrote on Apr 16, 2015, 13:24:
Orogogus wrote on Apr 16, 2015, 13:22:
Also, I'm pretty sure a fair fraction of those people didn't pay $60. There have been deals going on for $30-46, right on launch day.
I think he was referring to the Steam version which hasn't been on sale.

Oh, that's right; I forgot that was a thing this time around.
 
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News Comments > Grand Theft Auto V Steam Records
10. Re: Grand Theft Auto V Steam Records Apr 16, 2015, 13:22 Orogogus
 
jdreyer wrote on Apr 16, 2015, 13:06:
Frags4Fun wrote on Apr 16, 2015, 11:28:
Yup, PC gaming is dead.

Edit: With just those concurrent users and the gaming being $60, they've already made over $18 million. I bet that they have actually made much more than that.

I agree PC gaming isn't dead, but it's no secret why they don't launch initially on PC. These numbers are a fraction of what they did on consoles.

Also, I'm pretty sure a fair fraction of those people didn't pay $60. There have been deals going on for $30-46, right on launch day.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
14. Re: Into the Black Apr 15, 2015, 21:12 Orogogus
 
I think the implication in this thread is fanatic, not shill; no one seems to be saying that nin is merely posing as a genuine customer, or that he has some kind of financial interest at stake.  
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News Comments > Morning Safety Dance
17. Re: Morning Safety Dance Apr 15, 2015, 20:40 Orogogus
 
Flatline wrote on Apr 15, 2015, 16:14:
Orogogus wrote on Apr 15, 2015, 16:09:
I don't think the police have enough evidence for the DA to do anything. From the article, it seems the investigation was initiated and handled by the TSA, who let the victim walk away unidentified. That's a poor start, and finding said victim would be unreasonably difficult.

That's still kind of bullshit though. You have the video of the act occurring blatantly. Get the chick who was the accomplice to testify in order to not get prosecuted, which shouldn't be hard she already told a news station what happened, and that's enough to convict the dude.

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that the case against the lady collaborator depends heavily on her own self-incriminating testimony, which she can opt not to provide on the stand, or she can change her story. As far as I can tell she never told the police directly, nor the news station, only the TSA investigator. Unless it's in the news video, as I didn't watch it; but the article doesn't name her so I assume not.

There's a clear incentive for her to lie, and not much to testify against the guy. Or the guy can lie, and it's her word against his. And there's certainly no incentive for him at this point to turn evidence against her.

The video is unchangeable, at least, but without the accomplice's testimony (or that of the anonymous tipster) it doesn't seem very strong, especially if the victim doesn't actually look violated in the video. The guy would just lie and deny the hand signal, then say he didn't understand TSA procedures.
 
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News Comments > Morning Safety Dance
13. Re: Morning Safety Dance Apr 15, 2015, 16:09 Orogogus
 
I don't think the police have enough evidence for the DA to do anything. From the article, it seems the investigation was initiated and handled by the TSA, who let the victim walk away unidentified. That's a poor start, and finding said victim would be unreasonably difficult.  
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News Comments > Grand Theft Auto V PC Launch Schedule
239. Re: Grand Theft Auto V PC Launch Schedule Apr 14, 2015, 23:01 Orogogus
 
jdreyer wrote on Apr 14, 2015, 17:22:
SpectralMeat wrote on Apr 14, 2015, 14:23:
jdreyer wrote on Apr 14, 2015, 14:21:
This is one of the longest front page threads since, since, since Gamergate!
What about Elite?

I thought that wasn't a front page thread, which is why I used those words. I thought it was a general discussion forum post. Am I remembering wrong?

Well, yes. How would a general discussion forum post ever get that many posts? Those are lucky to break 20.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
9. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 14, 2015, 21:24 Orogogus
 
killer_roach wrote on Apr 14, 2015, 21:18:
Science fiction has had an ideology issue ever since Asimov's spiteful attitude toward Heinlein. Ever since most of the genre's standard-bearers have been pretty staunchly to the political left - even, until very recently, Orson Scott Card, who is now regarded somewhere between persona non grata and an apostate of the highest order.

Is that a recent thing? I feel like Card's books got kind of unreadably preachy before there was much Internet to go around, around the mid-90s. I remember reading the fourth Alvin Maker book and Ender's Shadow, and thinking, geeze, this guy's found religion, which apparently was exactly the case. And that was about 20 years ago.
 
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News Comments > Saturday Crowdfunding Roundup
22. Re: Saturday Crowdfunding Roundup Apr 11, 2015, 22:50 Orogogus
 
ViRGE wrote on Apr 11, 2015, 16:47:
But just keeping an eye on the last few hours of the campaign, something feels wrong. When you crossed $600K a few hours beforehand and still ended up barely making it (by 0.3%), that's a bit odd.

I'd assume that's from people worried about it not reaching its funding target, but who don't really care about the stretch goals (or don't expect it to hit any of the stretch targets). I mean, there's a reward at $600K but none until $625K. It doesn't seem that surprising to me that people would check in and A) see that it's not at $600K yet but close and donate, or B) see that it hit $600K, and not donate.

What does seem weird is the total going down. But Kicktraq shows spikes in backers and comments corresponding to the donation spikes in the last 3 days. If the developers really did pour into their own Kickstarter it seems like they would have had to create a few hundred dummy accounts and sock puppets; that kind of thing seems like it would be easily detectable by Kickstarter (and I'm pretty sure I read that they forbid project owners from topping off their own projects).
 
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News Comments > Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Cinematic
34. Re: Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Cinematic Apr 9, 2015, 12:29 Orogogus
 
I didn't know this wasn't common knowledge at this point, but if you want to save Paul, (spoiler) don't go through the window. That's it.  
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
13. Re: Evening Tech Bits Apr 9, 2015, 01:01 Orogogus
 
jimnms wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 21:23:
I'm calling the article BS for claiming it's optional. If it were optional, it would be optional not recommended.

Huh? If it weren't optional, it would be mandatory, not recommended. Like how most Steam games don't give you a choice about whether to download and install their updates.
 
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News Comments > Euro Truck Simulator 2 Expansion Next Month
10. Re: Euro Truck Simulator 2 Expansion Next Month Apr 9, 2015, 00:56 Orogogus
 
Rhino wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 23:46:
I feel like there is a greater honesty about what Euro Truck Simulator 2 is than there was about Elite. Yes, much of that may just be in my head

I think it's not just you, but I also feel like everyone saying this never played the old Elite games, either. Elite 2 and 3 were practically the same space-trucking game as E:D, and while the original Elite had more arcadey combat it was still very much an empty sandbox.

I'm guessing people's expectations come from games like WoW, GTA and Skyrim, where there are quests everywhere and story missions to give you something to do. Elite, especially 2 and 3, was always about flying a spaceship and not a whole lot else. From the interviews with Ian Bell, I gather Bell (who left after the first game) was more interested in making an exciting game, while Braben wanted the space simulator. But from what I've read at least the combat in E:D is a lot better now (i.e., actually fun) than it was in Elite 2 and 3.
 
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News Comments > Star Control Reboot FAQ
16. Re: Star Control Reboot FAQ Apr 8, 2015, 18:27 Orogogus
 
jdreyer wrote on Apr 8, 2015, 16:11:
I can't recall if I played Starflight 1 or 2, but IIRC they were pretty different from the MOO series. Starflight was adventure and exploration in a single ship, whereas MOO was 4x.

Are there any modern games that are similar to the Starflight series? I adored that game back in the day and lost many hours to it. I supposed E:D comes close?

E:D is basically the same game as Elite 2 and 3, with a modern engine. The lack of a campaign plot sets them pretty far apart from Starflight and Star Control; they're pure sandbox games that expect you to do a lot of Euro Trucking, in space.

I think the closest thing I've played recently (here meaning 2004) would be Space Rangers II. And Escape Velocity Nova 2 years before that. Last year's Starpoint Gemini might be in the same vein, but I haven't played it.
 
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