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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
13. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Mar 12, 2015, 12:35 Orogogus
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Mar 12, 2015, 09:40:
Think back on your life and tell me that at no point have you ever said "I'm going to kill you", even in jest with friends. Do you want to be locked up for something that is obviously a joke?

I can think of zero times I said something like that in jest to people who weren't friends, definable here as people who might possibly take me to court for it. When would you ever do that? Can you link one of those court cases?
 
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News Comments > Descent Reboot Kickstarter
41. Re: Descent Reboot Kickstarter Mar 12, 2015, 12:30 Orogogus
 
To be honest I only played Descent 1 & 2 in multiplayer, albeit mostly in co-op.  
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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
20. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Mar 11, 2015, 14:39 Orogogus
 
He didn't say left wing, did he?  
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News Comments > Another Total War: WARHAMMER Clue?
21. Re: Another Total War: WARHAMMER Clue? Mar 11, 2015, 14:09 Orogogus
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 11, 2015, 09:17:
All that tells you is that WH40k was written for a table top, adaption to PC should and needs to change races to be more compromising (except Orks, Necrons and Chaos)

Also Humans, Eldar and Tau all have rebels that may very well be compromising. It's just that due to Games Workshop locking down the IP there was never really any proper world building done, not the same way as say for Battletech (However little sense THAT made there).

Except Orks, Necrons, Chaos and Tyranids. And probably Dark Eldar; I don't know how diplomatic you can really be when your race's thing is backstabbing. There are more non-diplomatic, "evil" races than diplomatic ones.

I don't think it's a matter of being written for the tabletop, it's just the setting they've created. The Imperium is xenophobic to the most extreme degree possible. Is a game that has Space Marine Brother-Commander making ceasefire agreements with Warboss Gorblag really true to the spirit?

But what hallmarks from the Total War games do people want to see carried over, and which ones are going to be jettisoned?

+ People want great big battles with Titans and huge armies, I get that. So that's in.
+ Some kind of world map with territories to fight over. Fair enough.
+ Hero characters. Definitely tons of these to work with.
+ Graphics that scale from looking at individual units to the entire army

- Heirs & successors
- Factions & politics
- Turns that span years
- Formations, flanks
- Production. Dawn of War had barracks and whatnot, but the idea that you're recruiting and building most of your army right on the planet you're fighting over is kind of not how the logistics generally work.
- Research. Same thing, pretty much.

Again, why not just get some company to make a large scale RTS game? It doesn't seem to me that there are really that many defining elements of Total War that fit 40K.
 
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News Comments > Another Total War: WARHAMMER Clue?
14. Re: Another Total War: WARHAMMER Clue? Mar 11, 2015, 05:33 Orogogus
 
Diplomacy in a 40K game doesn't sound attractive to me at all. The majority of the races -- pretty much everyone but Tau -- aren't supposed to be big on compromise. And I just don't see what in the Total War model people want for their 40K game. Why wouldn't it be better to make a regular RTS with a strategic overlayer that doesn't involve governors and succession and all that?  
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News Comments > Another Total War: WARHAMMER Clue?
12. Re: Another Total War: WARHAMMER Clue? Mar 11, 2015, 04:02 Orogogus
 
Rossafur wrote on Mar 11, 2015, 03:18:
InBlack wrote on Mar 11, 2015, 03:10:
verybad1 wrote on Mar 11, 2015, 01:09:
Why in the hell AREN'T they doing a WH40K Total War, that's what everyone wants.

Im guessing the main reason is because the Warhammer setting is much simpler to realise in a Total War engine/game.

Yeah, people who even *thought* it could have been the 40k WH must really not be realizing how every single Total War game has worked: great big columns of troops marching at each other in formation. Adapting WH Fantasy requires zero modification to their formula, just new map, new factions, new art. In fact, there has been an incredibly expansive Russian-made WH Fantasy total conversion for Medieval 2: TW for years that they could lift a ton straight over from ("Yeah, sorry, we own the rights to all of this anyway...")

Agreed. Whenever someone asks why this isn't 40K I can't help but think, have you actually played 40K? It's not a natural fit at all unless you want to see tiny little unit blobs everywhere. Even Epic scale was much the same, formations and flanks just aren't a part of the game. And that's to say nothing of the overgame.

40K would be much better served with another Dawn of War game than shoehorning it into Total War.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
19. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 9, 2015, 14:32 Orogogus
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 9, 2015, 14:26:
Huh? Those records are kept already. Using GMT everywhere would just make it easier to figure things like that out.

My company totally does not keep such records. If we need to call a supplier or a customer, we check their address, look up their local time and call between 9AM-4PM local time. We certainly don't estimate their working hours based on their longitude.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
17. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 9, 2015, 13:41 Orogogus
 
I'm in San Diego, and if I have to deal with someone on the east coast it's good to know that their working hours are 3 hours ahead of us. It provides an easy point of reference and puts everyone on the same page. If I have to deal with someone in Germany I can look up the local time and adjust accordingly. If there were no local times and standardized GMT offsets, we would have to keep records of when everyone is open on an individual basis.  
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News Comments > Spaceship Ahoy - Elite: Dangerous
1104. Re: Spaceship Ahoy - Elite: Dangerous Mar 5, 2015, 15:23 Orogogus
 
Well, he is talking about HOTAS-only. I didn't mean literally the shift key, just that same sort of effect -- he'd be pushing one of the buttons on the stick, flipping a toggle or whatever to modify the actions of other buttons, switches, etc.  
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News Comments > Spaceship Ahoy - Elite: Dangerous
1102. Re: Spaceship Ahoy - Elite: Dangerous Mar 5, 2015, 15:00 Orogogus
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 5, 2015, 14:40:
saluk wrote on Mar 5, 2015, 14:22:
I use that. Really good stick for that price, though for ED you do have to make use of modifiers to have all the important actions on the stick only. It took me a few days to get comfortable with it, and I occasionally use the wrong modifier for an action. (target nearest instead of supercruise is one that happens a lot on my setup). I use the hat for docking precision controls, which is a bit weird but seems to work ok.
Modifiers? As in third party programs?

I assume he means "shift key" kind of functionality -- a button, toggle or other control modifies the binding on other controls to allow doubling up for more actions to be bound.
 
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News Comments > Evening Consolidation
5. Re: Evening Consolidation Mar 4, 2015, 19:36 Orogogus
 
SpectralMeat wrote on Mar 4, 2015, 19:29:
I personally don't see even Elite being a big hit on the xbox. I know I am generalizing here but I don't think Elite is for the general xbox audience.

It's probably not for the general PC audience, either, which apparently gravitates towards MOBAs and other free-to-play games. Even laying that aside, there are a lot of people who put E:D down for not having more objectives and things to do even though it compares favorably to the previous games in that regard.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
14. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Mar 4, 2015, 12:07 Orogogus
 
jdreyer wrote on Mar 3, 2015, 20:37:
Cutter wrote on Mar 3, 2015, 18:58:
And this is why this is bullshit. It's not even the guy who wrote the fucking song but his family. Why should they have any claim to it? They had fuck all to do with it.

Because our stupid copyright laws are 90 years long.

Eh? You're in the US, right? Our copyright laws are life of the author + 70 years. Or "95 years from publication or 120 years from creation whichever is shorter" for anonymous works, pseudonymous works, or works made for hire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries%27_copyright_lengths
 
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News Comments > Unity 5 Released
21. Re: Unity 5 Released Mar 3, 2015, 18:52 Orogogus
 
Kajetan wrote on Mar 3, 2015, 18:24:
bhcompy wrote on Mar 3, 2015, 17:50:
How is that any different than at any point in Crytek's history? UE has always been one of the top licensed engines simply because of the support provided.
It once was considered a valid competitor to Epic. Several big projects used the CryEngine, last of them Evolve, but Cryteks licensing business never took off.

They're involved in Star Citizen, too, right?
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
25. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 28, 2015, 17:53 Orogogus
 
Eh, I grew up seeing Leonard Nimoy in a bunch of stuff, so yes there's celebrity worship going on. He seemed like a nice guy in everything he did, which is unusual so I don't begrudge that.

I do remember a news article from last year, though, where a regular guy died trying to save someone on the train tracks. He worked at nVidia so Blue and the gaming press picked it up as a death related to the industry, but there was some outrage (just Cutter and InBlack, now that I look) that nVidia was getting news coverage in a non-negative light. Better that the poor guy get no recognition, because "shit like that happens every day". And I remember thinking, the only reason most of the pop culture deaths that get posted register is because there's a giant movie company, sports organization or record label that spent tons of money putting this guy/girl in the spotlight.

I don't hold that against Nimoy. Mr. Rogers was a celebrity, too. As far as I can tell by and large they both lived good lives. I'm sad they're gone. And for most non-celebrities you simply didn't know them so you can't say whether they were good or bad. But in last year's case I was surprised that there people who actually wanted less coverage of regular guys who died doing good.

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News Comments > etc.
22. Re: etc. Feb 28, 2015, 07:09 Orogogus
 
harlock wrote on Feb 27, 2015, 23:20:
Orogogus wrote on Feb 26, 2015, 18:34:
If it really were that easy, I can't help but think that Netflix, Hulu, Amazon and iTunes would all have gotten on the train years ago. If Europe were as uninhibited as it's made out to be, even if the US players were locked out for fear of stateside scrutiny there would be local digital delivery systems filling the gap.

netflix, hulu, et al arent VR

My point is there's already lots of regular 2D porn and there's tons of money there. If there were an easy way to set up and monetize digital delivery systems for porn without getting shut down, at least one of the big boys would have done so already. Otherwise they could be selling porn all the time. The only two reasons they wouldn't doing so are either 1) it breaks laws and gets them shut down, or 2) societal pressure mans they lose all their regular business and porn's not lucrative enough to make up for it.

I just don't see what puts Valve in a better position or how VR will lower those barriers.

Also, the Matrix doesn't strike me as a completely convincing argument. No one's jacking into the Matrix, they're wearing a big old VR helmet and maybe a pair of headphones. If they really do sell a hundred million headsets because of porn that's great, but I really don't think most people are going to be totally on board with that experience.
 
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News Comments > etc.
13. Re: etc. Feb 26, 2015, 18:40 Orogogus
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Feb 26, 2015, 16:06:
In Germany specifically there is also the Index which bans sale entirely. But only within Germany. Owning something on the Index is perfectly legal

A good example on the dilemma is Agarest 2. It has a young elf girl that you can massage in a stupid minigame to raise her affection level (In the Console version) (Which is relevant for True "Good" Ending). In PC version of this game they removed that. If they hadn't, owning the game on Steam would actually be ILLEGAL in the EU. As in you could literally get sued for owning that game, by federal prosecutors or their equivalent.

Doesn't your first paragraph quoted above say it's perfectly legal to own such material? If only sale is banned, wouldn't it be the distributor that would get prosecuted?
 
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News Comments > etc.
12. Re: etc. Feb 26, 2015, 18:34 Orogogus
 
harlock wrote on Feb 26, 2015, 17:29:
jdreyer wrote on Feb 26, 2015, 13:44:
One big problem is that violence is a central mechanic in gaming from Mario all the way at the bottom, to Hatred at the top. Sex games are a much smaller niche.

probably only due to exposure and lack of product..

if it was widely available and half way decent (think of the photorealistic cut scenes nowadays..) hell even god of war 3 had a sex minigame that would probably be "good enough" for most sex gamers (.. i guess ? and that was like 5 years ago too)

in any case, its coming - you better believe it man... with Oculus? and all the pov porn stuff? only a matter of time before Steam has an entire "Adult" section - fucking bank on it, dude

porn is cash flow x1000 ... and money talks

There are already plenty of porn games from Japan, and a healthy market for porn in general on the PC. While I'm sure there will be porn available for the Rift, I don't really believe it's going to usher in some kind of porn Renaissance.

I think if Steam tried to be a porn distributor it would get shut down. Not just in the US, either. There's "less prudish than the US", and then there's Japanese tentacle rape digitally delivered straight to childrens' Steam accounts with only the flimsiest age verification and untraceable payment options.

If it really were that easy, I can't help but think that Netflix, Hulu, Amazon and iTunes would all have gotten on the train years ago. If Europe were as uninhibited as it's made out to be, even if the US players were locked out for fear of stateside scrutiny there would be local digital delivery systems filling the gap.
 
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News Comments > etc.
7. Re: etc. Feb 26, 2015, 16:44 Orogogus
 
BobBob wrote on Feb 26, 2015, 16:18:
Orogogus wrote on Feb 26, 2015, 13:12:
Are sexually explicit games easily purchasable online there?

They wouldn't have that label / description. They aren't so prudish.

Eraser's post seems to indicate it's regulated and labeled fairly strictly, at least in Germany.
 
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News Comments > etc.
3. Re: etc. Feb 26, 2015, 13:12 Orogogus
 
beremot wrote on Feb 26, 2015, 11:00:
But there IS a double standard at Steam. Celebrate the slaughter of innocents? Come on in! Expose a naked breast? Oh no. Can't have that.

I feel like people say this all the time, but it seems to me that the consequences are clearly more involved than it's made out to be.

Valve okays innocent-slaughtering games, and there are a handful of Hatreds, Postals and Carmageddons on Steam. Whatever. If they gave a free pass to nudity and sex, there would absolutely be hundreds if not thousands of explicit Japanese "dating sims" on Steam. It would become *the* place to get them, it would end up on the news and draw a lot of attention.

You can remove all the controls on violence and it will probably only go so far. I don't believe there's really a huge, insatiable market appetite for offensive violence. The same isn't true for sex. If they took the controls off sex then Steam would be a virtual sex market with standard video games as a sideline, at least until it got shut down.

That's my opinion, at least. People bring up Europe a lot when discussing these standards and how they're generally the other way around from us. Are sexually explicit games easily purchasable online there?
 
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News Comments > Warhammer 40,000: Dark Nexus Arena Announced
11. Re: Warhammer 40,000: Dark Nexus Arena Announced Feb 26, 2015, 12:49 Orogogus
 
panbient wrote on Feb 26, 2015, 10:55:
On the other hand Relic never tried selling The Last Stand as a stand alone product.

Am I misunderstanding, or isn't that exactly what Relic did?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/56438/

That; that's The Last Stand as a standalone product, isn't it? For $10?
 
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