Jerykk wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 12:31:

Creston wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 11:38:
I admit the trailers look cool, but I'm really worried this game is more scripted than CoD...

I'll wait for some Blues Reviews.

Creston

I don't think it's possible for any game to be more scripted than CoD.

Creston wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 11:41:
Microsoft wants EVERYTHING for Windows to ONLY be sold through their own store, exactly like Apple does.

Panickd wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 11:09:
I think all parents should give their kids weird names. It either encourages them to live up to the weirdness or pick a name that better suits them later in life.

RollinThundr wrote on Jan 31, 2013, 09:37:

Cutter wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 04:36:
Feel sorry for the kids who have to get brainwashed in cults like that.

Sorta like US school kids. Sad I tell ya.

TheEmissary wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 16:46:
I think you guys aren't seeing the bigger picture. Google is doing this so they don't lose content creators to rival sites like Vimeo. Vimeo a couple months back implemented a similar pay wall system for videos. I think they are implementing it to keep pace with the features found on the other video streaming upstarts.

Because you're saying "oh, don't worry, it's just lawyers being lawyers. They'd never do something like that," when in fact they HAVE already abused their bullshit ToS.

EA tried to pretend it was a bug.

Creston wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 14:39:

Beamer wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 13:35:
But EA didn't ban anyone, did they?

Yes, they did. They banned several people from their forum (undoubtedly for good cause), and in doing so caused these people to lose access to all/some (reports on that were sketchy) their games through Origin.

When the media (the MEDIA, of all things!) bitched at EA about it, they tried to play it off by saying "oh, that's actually just a bug, hehe, no foul play here!" even though their fucking EULA specifically stated that it would happen, for which people bitched at EA (and mongrels defended EA for it.)

It took EA MONTHS to fix this "bug."

It's lawyers being lawyers. Nothing more.

No, it is NOT just "lawyers being lawyers." Again, this has ALREADY FUCKING HAPPENED with EA. It baffles me how people keep putting their fingers in their ears, sing LALALALALAALLA really loudly, and pretend like there's nothing going on.

From RPS: A number of people had contacted us to say that their forum bans (both justified and mystifying) were locking them out of their online gaming, and that their attempts to find out why from EA’s customer support were met with silence or nonsense. Ignoring the question of the legality of preventing access to a purchased product (something I’m looking into), the confusion really lay in EA’s previous assurances that they would not be doing this after the “error” in March

The error they referred to was the EULA that said "If we ban you from the forum, you lose all your access to your games!" People cried out about it, EA did the 'tut tut, we'll never do that' routine, idiots defended EA and played the "Oh, you guys are always after poor, misunderstood EA" bullshit card, and then EA did that exact fucking thing.

But hey, keep saying that it's crazy, and that EA won't do that, even though, you know, they actually have a confirmed fucking history of doing it. Ostrich Policy works just fine for our politicians, no reason it can't work here either, right?

Creston

Spektr wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 13:57:
Jee getting banned from EA games for not reporting a bug.. it's so absurd that I shouldn't even comment it. I am merely stating the obvious that banning people for no real reason represents less sales and more piracy. And that it's nearly impossible to prove that a player didn't report a bug and even more so detect the players who don't report bugs...

Verno wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 13:33:

People who get worked up over EULAs need to calm the fuck down.

I disagree, I think getting "worked the fuck up" over these things is what gets them changed quickly. If you want sit around and be passive about it thats your right but I'll pipe up whenever I see obvious bullshit, particularly when its inserted into what could be a legally binding contract. My approach doesn't interfere with yours so the complaint makes no sense, quite the opposite you might even benefit from it.

Creston wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 10:56:

dj LiTh wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 09:17:
So they arent changing the EULA but they arent enforcing it? Is that like reserving the option to fuck you in the ass?

Basically. "Oh, don't worry! We'll never enforce it. Trust us!"

Of course, this is the same company that said "Oh, don't worry. We'll never take away your access to your games for being banned from our forums! That's just broad language in our ToS!" and then did EXACTLY that to multiple users.

Beamer wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 09:46:
but it's tiresome to hear "OMG THEY WANT TO BONE US IN THE BUTT!" when no one ever actually planned on doing that and the people who would be responsible for doing such boning have no clue the language is even in there.

That would be far more believable had EA in fact not already done this exact thing, and had they not taken months to fix the issue even after the "media" excoriated them for it.

Creston

nin wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 11:50:

Creston wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 10:56:

dj LiTh wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 09:17:
So they arent changing the EULA but they arent enforcing it? Is that like reserving the option to fuck you in the ass?

Basically. "Oh, don't worry! We'll never enforce it. Trust us!"

Of course, this is the same company that said "Oh, don't worry. We'll never take away your access to your games for being banned from our forums! That's just broad language in our ToS!" and then did EXACTLY that to multiple users.

Beamer wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 09:46:
but it's tiresome to hear "OMG THEY WANT TO BONE US IN THE BUTT!" when no one ever actually planned on doing that and the people who would be responsible for doing such boning have no clue the language is even in there.

That would be far more believable had EA in fact not already done this exact thing, and had they not taken months to fix the issue even after the "media" excoriated them for it.

Creston

Amazes me people will defend this shit - "Guys! I'm sure they won't lock people out (like they did yesterday)."

InBlack wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 09:53:

Beamer wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 09:42:

nin wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 09:00:

So we now know why EULAs and ToSes are so lengthy: Even the people making the games can't be bothered to read the crap they let their lawyers stuff into them.

Win!

And this is exactly what I said about SimCity.

That doesnt excuse anything, or anybody. Ignorance is equivalent to negligence. If you cant even be bothered to read your own damn EULA for a product you are MAKING then you sir deserve any and ALL blame.

Passing the buck is all the rage in corporate and financial circles these days, but that doesnt mean its excusable.

Kajetan wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 09:42:

dj LiTh wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 09:17:
So they arent changing the EULA but they arent enforcing it? Is that like reserving the option to fuck you in the ass?

That is in most cases the advise of the legal department. Never admit you are wrong. NEVER!

I experienced the same clusterfuck years ago, when the company laywers went crazy with the new TOS for our products. Customers, who actually read this shit were confused and/or angry. Very bad press was generated. Only after a few court proceedings were lost, the TOS finally changed.

The legal department? Everything was smooth, nobody of THEM faced any consequences. Instead the companies executives tried to blame customer service and public relations for doing a bad job in defending the company.

nin wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 09:00:

So we now know why EULAs and ToSes are so lengthy: Even the people making the games can't be bothered to read the crap they let their lawyers stuff into them.

Win!

Sepharo wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 01:41:

Ant wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 00:47:

Sepharo wrote on Jan 29, 2013, 19:47:
I watch all my sports for free, live, and in HD. Haven't run into a game I wanted to watch that wasn't on broadcast/network TV.

Free, live, HD, and legally? Where? I watch NBA and CFB.

FOX, NBC, ABC, CBS, TBS... They're in the air