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News Comments > Evening Mobilization
10. Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 10, 2014, 02:16 Beamer
 
Tim Collins wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 21:02:
They blew it bigtime by not using sapphire in the phones

Why?

Sapphire is super scratch resistant but pretty brittle.
What do you see more of? Scratched phones or cracked phones?

Sapphire will help the scratches and increase the cracks.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
337. Re: Op Ed Sep 10, 2014, 01:45 Beamer
 
Sepharo wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 01:19:
Guys, this topic only needed 17 (now 16) more comments to be in the top 10 most commented.

We can do it!
How did we get so many comments when this games journalism incident seems way, way worse but didn't even get 80 on Ars!
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
38. Re: Op Ed Sep 9, 2014, 20:07 Beamer
 
Here's #gamergate people whining about how SJWs are blocking people on Twitter, yet on this very board someone claims to be making a browser plug in to block SJW websites

The hypocrisy!
The intellectual dishonesty!

The... fact that not everyone involved in this can be easily labeled or necessarily believes in what morons keep trying to group them into.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
35. Re: Op Ed Sep 9, 2014, 17:23 Beamer
 
harlock wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 12:14:
Beamer wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 11:28:
ASeven wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 09:05:
A bit of SJW hypocrisy. The head of NeoGAF, one of the most prominent people to call every gamer a misogynist, has this to reply about a girl gamer that goes against his narrative.

Who are the real misogynists in this, one has to ask.

Dude.
Everyone gets angry when all gamers are painted by what one shithead does, yet you keep doing it about "SJWs?"

Verno and nin, and you guys applaud this. But, again, when one gamer sends death threats, it's all "oh, but it's just one guy, don't paint us in the same light!"
Doesn't that seem... weird?

This is why I thought Zoe Quinn's most recent "twitter leak" was pointless, because it was a small group of morons. But hey, let's keep telling ASeven how smart he is for finding other small groups of morons!

point is, nobody even has to make an effort to make you crusader guys look bad... you take care of that all on your own

I'm not particularly a crusader, and point is, no one has to make an effort to make you gamers look bad, you take care of that all on your own.
(See, it doesn't work like that.)

Can someone ask ASeven to explain to me what he thinks "intellectual dishonesty" means? Because he whines a lot about people who say "all gamers do this," then he says "all SJWs do this."
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
29. Re: Op Ed Sep 9, 2014, 11:28 Beamer
 
ASeven wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 09:05:
A bit of SJW hypocrisy. The head of NeoGAF, one of the most prominent people to call every gamer a misogynist, has this to reply about a girl gamer that goes against his narrative.

Who are the real misogynists in this, one has to ask.

Dude.
Everyone gets angry when all gamers are painted by what one shithead does, yet you keep doing it about "SJWs?"

Verno and nin, and you guys applaud this. But, again, when one gamer sends death threats, it's all "oh, but it's just one guy, don't paint us in the same light!"
Doesn't that seem... weird?

This is why I thought Zoe Quinn's most recent "twitter leak" was pointless, because it was a small group of morons. But hey, let's keep telling ASeven how smart he is for finding other small groups of morons!
 
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News Comments > Morning Consolidation
28. Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 9, 2014, 11:26 Beamer
 
While everyone is playing this tonight, I decided to download Warface on the 360.

I'm assuming I'll be the only person in it. Probably just time to download this instead.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
77. Re: Op Ed Sep 9, 2014, 11:25 Beamer
 
SXO wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 10:39:
InBlack wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 05:40:
...A term which has somehow become synonimous with "sexist pig" thank you very much...

Um, no, I don't believe that's the case at all. People are jumping to conclusions here. I identify as a gamer, and I too agree that articles like "Gamers Are Over" were poorly worded, and sound like it's lumping everyone together. But anyone with intelligence can read those articles and realize that they are not doing so. They're specifically calling out the actual misogynists. I don't feel threatened by any of these articles, just as I don't feel threatened when people use the term "SJW" to lump another group of people together. I'm all for games becoming more inclusive. That doesn't mean games featuring damsels in distress, or Bayonetta-style half-nakedness need to stop existing, it just means more types of games that cater to more tastes should exist.

I wish more people would actually read/watch/listen to the actual things their criticizing and reasonably assessing what's actually going. I'm wondering how many commenting here actually read the RPS post.

They're also calling out people that look the other way when the actual misogynists say things but get angry when someone calls them out at it.

They're not calling those people misogynists, racists, or bad people, but they're telling those people they have some responsibility in how other people view gamers.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
76. Re: Op Ed Sep 9, 2014, 11:24 Beamer
 
Cpmartins wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 19:07:
Let's try a #killallwomen, let's see how satirical it's considered. Let's put on our professional twitter accounts, let's see how that goes.

You don't really understand how these things work, do you?
What you just did was ask for a White History Month. If you don't know why that's a dumb question, just Google it.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
18. Re: Op Ed Sep 9, 2014, 11:20 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 10:34:
Task wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 09:46:
I still laugh every time I see that word "Gamergate" as if its somehow anything 'like' Watergate. "One of these things is not like the other one."
So does that mean every time the MSM puts "gate" to the end of something like bridegate, or whatever else it is less of an issue?

No, but it means they use it so often for such trivial shit that it's become meaningless.
In that way, it perfectly fits "gamergate," which in the grand scheme, is extremely trivial, but matters to the people it matters to (duh.)
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
17. Re: Op Ed Sep 9, 2014, 02:07 Beamer
 
PropheT wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 00:43:
Beamer wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 00:10:
She ridicules those that don't like women and want nothing to ever improve.
Does that describe you? If so, you deserve to be ridiculed.

It does not describe most people, yet so many seem willing to think it does.

Speaking of straw men, that's not what the Gamasutra "gamers are over" article was even about or what she was talking about at all other than the fact that it's sad that the outward face of gaming were repeated messages about misogyny, slut-shaming, and so on.

It was about the gaming community sucking ass (it does), and that it was gaming journalism's job now to foster a better community (it won't), and that the "gamer" that made up the gaming community of the past is gone and no one cares (because wishing for a better audience creates one, apparently).

It's a decent article, and she's right about the gaming community. What she's wrong about is that gaming journalism is about a community other than the one it has, as if gaming and the sites writing about it are now catering to a different audience than r/gaming and r/games and so on.

The reason gamers got so pissed is because they're tired of being told how much they suck by the people whose bread they're buttering, and they've gone on the rampage against gaming journalism because there's been a very pointed Us vs. Them thing that's been fostered.

The fact that you went to the "you must be a misogynist if you disagree" route when that wasn't even the point of the discussion is a pretty goddamn good example of why people are so tired of all of this. I hate the gaming community, I hate the childishness in it and the near-constant state of outrage, but when it comes to being part of an audience I'm still a gamer even if I don't want to label myself as one; and as a gamer in that respect, I'm the core audience of these sites who have chosen to repeatedly attack their audience in an attempt to shame them into being a different community than they are.

It isn't most people but it's still aimed at all of us, and it's gotten really fucking old.

It was about feeding and fostering the gamer stereotype of angry, awkward immature boy. That's what it meant with "gamer."

What's funny is so many gamers that didn't fit that stereotype have lashed out in the exact way that defined that stereotype.
You're even saying you don't want to label yourself a gamer, so I'm really confused as to why you are angry at something that is aimed at a very specific set of people that define themselves primarily as gamer and fit the exact definition marketing created in the late 80s and early 90s that's no longer very true.

Also, by definition, if you don't like women then you are a misogynist. That's all I said. Are you actually disagreeing with that statement? I don't think most people here would. In fact, the very definition of misogyny is disliking women. Like, right out of a dictionary. So I don't get your second to last paragraph, unless it wasn't aimed at me and at instead at Leigh or some royal "you." I never said you're a misogynist if you don't agree. I said you're a misogynist if you don't like women. I didn't even use the word "agree." Or the notion. Or anything along those lines. I can't see how you read it as such. Do you dislike women or dislike any attempt for games to grow and mature? No? Then you aren't what she was talking about. Given how regularly this board discusses a desire for games to grow and mature, I don't think it describes many people here at all. A handful that keep mentioning sex in every damn topic, but that's about it.

 
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News Comments > Op Ed
13. Re: Op Ed Sep 9, 2014, 00:10 Beamer
 
Eirikrautha wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 22:19:
Squirmer wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 22:10:
And has Gamasutra made any plans to retract some of the slanderous things they've been printing lately or is that all in the name of the editorial?

What is slanderous, exactly? The Leigh Alexander article everyone seems angry about is actually very reasonable if you're mature enough to 1) actually read it, and 2) understand what it's saying.

I mean, she concedes the abuse comes from a vocal minority. She pointedly does not lump every individual "gamer" into the same mass. Her point is that the "gaming community" is widely known for obscene levels of abuse, and unless you actively speak out against it, you at best maintain the status quo, and at worst encourage the abuse. The point is that the culture needs to change, and that's not gonna happen if people keep responding with #notallgamers

There's nothing to argue with there unless you're seriously offended by something no one said.
Both that article and the one she wrote for Time misrepresents the concerns of those that she also ridicules. Her rhetoric is just as toxic as anything she condemns. I'm sorry, don't expect to be praised for self-righteously attacking a strawman, while insulting your audience and praising your own moral superiority at the same time...

She ridicules those that don't like women and want nothing to ever improve.
Does that describe you? If so, you deserve to be ridiculed.

It does not describe most people, yet so many seem willing to think it does.

That shitty Breitbart piece so many people loved shitted on gamers every bit as much, only it lumped gamers together much more broadly. But it said SJWs are bad, so who cares if it was much more condescending, let's share it on Twitter a billion times!
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
12. Re: Op Ed Sep 9, 2014, 00:09 Beamer
 
Squirmer wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 22:10:
And has Gamasutra made any plans to retract some of the slanderous things they've been printing lately or is that all in the name of the editorial?

What is slanderous, exactly? The Leigh Alexander article everyone seems angry about is actually very reasonable if you're mature enough to 1) actually read it, and 2) understand what it's saying.

I mean, she concedes the abuse comes from a vocal minority. She pointedly does not lump every individual "gamer" into the same mass. Her point is that the "gaming community" is widely known for obscene levels of abuse, and unless you actively speak out against it, you at best maintain the status quo, and at worst encourage the abuse. The point is that the culture needs to change, and that's not gonna happen if people keep responding with #notallgamers

There's nothing to argue with there unless you're seriously offended by something no one said.

It's an interesting point that, if you don't speak out, you are for maintaining the status quo.

There's an extremely similar battle going on with Reddit and TheFappening. Extremely similar, because it likely heavily overlaps. In general, people are talking about how Reddit is a cesspool, and Redditors are popping up to say "not all reddit!" Which is great, fine. But the argument against them is that they see the overt racism, homophobia, etc. It finds its way briefly into every subreddit. In some cases it's quickly chased out. In many it's ignored. The question, then, is why do these people, often lurkers, only find their voice when someone criticizes the loud minority of reddit, making sure they angrily say "don't lump us together." Where are they when they have the option to downvote the trolls to oblivion? Where are they when they can report things to mods? Where are they when people are shitting all over their community and doing the things that gives Reddit such a bad name?

Why do they only care when someone mentions that Reddit has a bad name, rather than even just downvoting away?


So yes, in cases like this, I think silence can be seen as a desire to maintain status quo. And, frankly, at this point so many say "I'm sick of this argument, I now take the other side" which goes beyond maintaining the status quo and right to defending the creeps that are causing people to generalize.
 
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News Comments > Morning Interviews
9. Re: Morning Interviews Sep 8, 2014, 22:30 Beamer
 
ForgedReality wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 18:31:
This guy's nothing but a lot of hot air. I remember back before Quake came out, he was talking about how it would be this huge, amazing thing, where you'd be a guy with an axe, and you could tumble and roll, and it would be in this huge open world with life all around you, and you could craft things and whatnot.

Basically, it was all this insane hype and everyone got all stirred up about it, and really, what ended up coming to us was a glorified tech demo. It wasn't a bad game, but it was missing almost everything that Romero pumped us up for it to be.

He needs to keep his overly ambitious mouth shut, because nobody's listening anymore.

Typically, Carmack is blamed for Quake being so scaled down. Word is he was way behind on engine work because he wouldn't let anyone help him.
Anecdotally.
 
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News Comments > Uncanny Valley Demo
3. Re: Uncanny Valley Demo Sep 8, 2014, 20:17 Beamer
 
Aero wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 10:28:
They certainly are right about death to an extent. It's when I'm repeating sections of horror-suspense games that all the seams in the mechanics become evident. It's the point at which you start seeing the game for what it is underneath, a collection of simple rules and algorithms, that I tend to lose interest.

I just finished Max Payne 3, aka Max Payne: Gears of War Cover Based Whack-a-Mole.

I actually really found it satisfying, but due to the checkpoint system there were many areas where I'd die close to finishing. Playing on the 360 with a controller, sometimes it would take me in excess of 15 tries to get through. Then I'd go through a cut scene and get to another fight that it was clear I'd have to do a dozen times due to not having any pain pills.
Ultimately, none pushed me away from the game, but several times I'd realize what I was up against and turn the game off for the night. I'd still want to play, but I'd be tired of redoing the same crap.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
70. Re: Op Ed Sep 8, 2014, 18:51 Beamer
 
#killallmen doesn't seem to be very popular, used much more by people complaining about it than actually using it:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/killallmen

And has been around much longer than this whole "SJW" bullshit.

Plus, it's considered satirical:
Thingtoocoolforyou &#8207;@Thingtoocoolfor Aug 17

Satiricial hashtag #killallmen gets people more angry than the actual murders of women and girls



plain eyre &#8207;@thewordy

i joke "#killallmen" & dudes in my mentions think i'm serious i say "stop harassing me" & dudes think i'm joking
 
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News Comments > Independent Games Festival Defends Judging Process
8. Re: Independent Games Festival Defends Judging Process Sep 8, 2014, 18:26 Beamer
 
Squirmer wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 18:19:
I wish people were mature enough to admit that when bad games win awards, it's just because game critics are bad critics. It's not some giant conspiracy, they're just not very good at judging games. By which I mean they prefer things like an interesting art style and "mature" themes, and aren't very good at critiquing actual game design. This has been a problem in game journalism for as long as the field as existed.

Thing is, the same problem exists with the more mainstream and visible awards, the kind of award shows that think Bioshock games are actually good. It's just bad critics.

Don't limit it to games. Tatiana Mansley, or whomever, from Orphan Black hasn't been nominated for any awards despite acting circles around Anna Gunn. Crash and Shakespeare in Love won Best Picture. Jethro Tull beat Metallica.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
60. Re: Op Ed Sep 8, 2014, 17:06 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 16:18:
Prez wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 16:09:

4) Hey, I thought we were disagreeing here?

Nah, I mostly agree. I just wanted to clarify for the yung'uns. Back in our day, we pined for our copy of CGW and checked our mailboxes daily for a week until it came. And we read it cover to cover. Twice. That's the way it was, and we liked it!

I remember going nuts over E3 articles. Tiny postage stamped screens and 15 word blurbs, yet I'd identify what game was the next big thing to me due to it. Hell, any preview - I was 100% right on getting obsessed with Half Life based on 3 screens and two sentences, but 100% wrong thinking that, after Half Life, Prax War would be the next big thing. In that famous upcoming shooters preview, those were the two I loved. And based on essentially zero information.

Now? E3 seems annoying, not interesting.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
56. Re: Op Ed Sep 8, 2014, 17:00 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 16:13:
Beamer wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 15:54:
jdreyer wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 15:47:
Quboid wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 15:04:
None of those are RPS. It was phrased badly but "gamers are over" wasn't attacking gaming culture, it was attacking bullying and bigotry in gaming. Nothing has proven their point more than the response.

True as that may be, semantics matter. And when you cast with such a wide net, even unintentionally, don't be surprised when a bunch of sharks bite you in the ass.

I just wish people would focus on the substance rather than bristle over the terminology.
Yes, I get the potential hypocrisy when Redmask got all huffy at me for asking he not use "SJW," but that wasn't because I was going to ignore his message, but because I think that's another one of those words that, as soon as you use it, any nuance to your point becomes entirely lost into the giant ball of contention that is that word.

I don't disagree, but when the games journalists got together and decided to write that bunch of articles, they should have come up with a way to title them that did focus on the issue instead of tarring everyone. TL;DR is a thing, so a lot of (most?) people might not make it past your title. In which case, that poorly worded title becomes the opinion of the sites in question.

I don't think games reporters/journalists/bloggers/whatevers are being unfairly hit for using that terminology. I wish gamers were smarter about what they take offense to, but whatever, people can't necessarily control what they take offense to (important lesson, no?)

I do get why they found themselves getting defensive after they were basically all called evil because Zoe Quinn hooked up with a reporter that mentioned her name a handful of times. Suddenly they were all being grouped together and thrown to the wolves for things that, in this industry, are normal and necessary. It's not a huge industry. You go to a conference, be it PAX, E3 or GDC, and it's full of journalists and developers. People that have traded emails. They bump into each other and say hello. They geek out over realizing they both loved Rygar as kids. They end up in line next to each other at the nearby restaurants or the hotel bar. They gossip about Half Life 3. The reporters go to a preview play test and the developers are there, playing with them, breathlessly showing them the cool new feature they just added and are super happy about.

The thing about this industry is, in the end, we're all kind of fanboys. The normal people watching it like us. The journalists like RPS. The developers themselves. Everyone geeks out together. Calling for disclosure every time an article is written by someone that personally knows one of the devs isn't really feasible because, by and large, every writer has spent some time with people from every company and has some people there they consider friends. With movies, if there's a screening it may have a couple of producers there with dozens of critics, and the producers don't really care much about the critics. With games, the devs outnumber the journalists, and the devs probably have one of the game sites as their home page so they read the works of the writers almost as much as the writers play their game.
But does it matter? No one goes out writing a fluff piece preview, they write what they saw. What they saw was in a carefully controlled environment where they were given free drinks and food (hard to pass up when you're sometimes doing this for 4-6 hours at a time), and with some dev being their buddy walking them through it. I don't think anyone is consciously fluffing their reviews, either. Yeah, PCG or CGW, whichever it was, gave that steaming pile Doom 3 a 93% rating. It also had like 16 pages of coverage. It's less likely that the editor and reviewer decided it needed a huge score and more likely that having a game that big that much ahead of anyone else made the reviewer geek out and overvalue what he had. Because he was a geek with something special. In truth, I can also see them only having been given that access if they guaranteed a review above X%, but still think that score was above anything even a skeezy editor would give and even the worst PR person would demand.

No one in this industry wants to lie or delude (maybe Randy Pitchford.) No one wants to mischaracterize. People just want to geek out over games and write about what they know and love. What they know and love eventually crosses over with the people they like. And that can be improved. As a whole, the journalism in this industry isn't particularly great, but it's improved massively since the days of even PCXL. It's matured and grown up. It has a long way to go, even in just distancing itself from the creators of the media.

But people expecting it to be covered with the same care and scrutiny and by the same caliber of reporter as recent developments in the Gaza Strip are delusional. Journalism majors want to be journalists. Game journalists want to geek out over an industry they love, and there will never be room for much more for them to do.



edit - this is total TLDR, and probably all over the place. Sorry, on a stupid conference call and half paying attention to it and half what I'm writing, which isn't good for anyone.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
48. Re: Op Ed Sep 8, 2014, 15:56 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 15:54:
Beamer wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 15:06:
But, ultimately, what do movie journalists do that you guys feel games journalists don't, or vice versa? Lengthy articles about the portrayals of women and minorities and demands for equality? Check. Working closely with the studios? Check, though less closely for film because it's review based, not preview based, and reviews are much cheaper.

Actually, the internet is killing off the professional movie reviewer as well. People are leaving in droves or being laid off as a result of the collapse of print media. Movie-specific sites like Cinemablend and Slashfilm are picking up the slack. As a result, payment for movie reviews has fallen to a tenth of what it was pre-internet. Due to the long rich history and culture of movie reviewing, I feel the quality is still their despite this transition, but that's probably only got a generation before it resembles the game industry.

I agree. And, for that reason, many of the movie critics are freelancers with other jobs. They do it out of passion. But they solely review, they don't do much in the way of editorials.

Even then, though, movie specific sites are a smaller game, I believe, to more wider media sites. Things like AVClub. Rottentomatoes has a hand in this, too - no need to check Slashfilm every day when you can just get the headline from RT.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
47. Re: Op Ed Sep 8, 2014, 15:54 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 15:47:
Quboid wrote on Sep 8, 2014, 15:04:
None of those are RPS. It was phrased badly but "gamers are over" wasn't attacking gaming culture, it was attacking bullying and bigotry in gaming. Nothing has proven their point more than the response.

True as that may be, semantics matter. And when you cast with such a wide net, even unintentionally, don't be surprised when a bunch of sharks bite you in the ass.

I just wish people would focus on the substance rather than bristle over the terminology.
Yes, I get the potential hypocrisy when Redmask got all huffy at me for asking he not use "SJW," but that wasn't because I was going to ignore his message, but because I think that's another one of those words that, as soon as you use it, any nuance to your point becomes entirely lost into the giant ball of contention that is that word.
 
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