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News Comments > etc.
4. Re: etc. Oct 7, 2014, 11:14 Beamer
 
UHD wrote on Oct 7, 2014, 10:59:
Julio wrote on Oct 7, 2014, 10:26:
The interesting thing about two sides needing to come together on #Gamergate is...they don't need to.

Yeah because mutual understanding and civil communication never solved anything.

Or, it's interesting that Julio only wants to read things that pander to him rather than challenge his viewpoints and ask he reconsider them.

Again, if only Leigh Alexander had done that better instead of kicking over a gas can and making people say "hey, I'm a gamer!" rather than "she has a point, I'm a gamer and I'm not that stereotype!"
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
25. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 6, 2014, 21:02 Beamer
 
Agent.X7 wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 20:22:
How did I know you were going to bang on about the R0? Now I know you are just parroting the media. The R0 of HIV is measured in YEARS. The R0 for ebola is WEEKS. Yeah, the media tends to not mention that.

Seriously?
Time is not a component of R0!

Do you understand what R0 is? It's how many people an infected person will pass the disease on to.
When the disease tends to kill within weeks, R0 is over the course of weeks. When a disease tends to kill in years, R0 is over the course of years.

But, ultimately, it is meaningless. It is simply a measure of how many people one infected person will infect. With HIV, they have years to do it. With ebola, they have days or weeks. But it's still a finite number.

I mean, given that ebola patients do not live for years while infectious, what does it matter? It isn't like the R0 will stretch on.

Seriously, you seem to not even understand what R0 is and why time is meaningless. If we extend the period we measure R0 for ebola to 40 years, it's still 2!, because the patient died 39.9 years ago!
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
23. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 6, 2014, 20:14 Beamer
 
Here, from IJRreview, a conservative website:
Ebola is less contagious than HIV, SARS, Mumps and Measles.

Or from WebMD
Or from Medscape
Or from Vox

Or, you know, trust some 24 hour news channel trying to get you to endlessly not change the channel.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
21. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 6, 2014, 20:07 Beamer
 
Agent.X7 wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 19:58:
Beamer wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 12:30:
How not to get ebola: don't roll around in the blood of someone bleeding from their eyes.

Seriously, ebola is less contagious than HIV and, while it transmits via bodily fluids like HIV, it only transmits when people are bleeding out their orifices. It's pretty easy to avoid in first world countries.

You really need to stop posting before you buy a clue. Seriously, ebola is WAY more contagious than HIV, and WAY easier to transmit. And you're contagious the moment you get a fever from it, which is WAY before you start bleeding, if in fact you even do start bleeding before you die.


The guy that just called what they wear "full biohazard suits" is telling someone else to get a clue?

It's R0 is generally recognized as being between 1 and 2. It's 4 for HIV. Which means HIV is more contagious. It, like HIV, is not an airborne disease. And by the time people are infectious, they're usually bedridden with an extremely high fever, muscle pains, headache, and uncontrollable bodily fluids.

It isn't like they're at the supermarket feeling a-ok. Or, in the case of HIV, having sex and spreading bodily fluids.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
23. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 6, 2014, 20:00 Beamer
 
Agent.X7 wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 19:52:
I love the Ebola article. It was also highly unlikely that someone wearing full bio-hazard gear would get infected. But I mean, that's only happened a dozen or so times. CErtainly there could never be an outbreak in the US, because...'Murica?

Full bio-hazard suit?
Here's what they're wearing.
In "hospitals" that are tents with dirt floors that are absolutely covered in feces, blood & vomit.

Not exactly comparable to the treatment in the US.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
25. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 6, 2014, 18:58 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 18:56:
Cheaper prices are made up on volume so it all comes out in the wash.

Again, Cutter the economic genius.
It only gets made up in volume if people buy multiple. Again, what's the primary limiting factor for most gamers? Is it money to spend on software, or is it time to actually play the games?

If the price fell 90%, you'd have to buy 10x more games. Do you really think you'd do that?
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
22. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 6, 2014, 18:31 Beamer
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 18:22:
That the world is fucked up as it is is exactly because everyone has to cheat someone else out of money in order to survive. And remember, your income is someone else's debt. Every cent you earn, someone else loses. Capitalism is to put it bluntly, a system designed to kill the human race in the long-term. Because greed is infinite, but resources are not.

Which is why I still advocate for going back to the 1940s-1970s tax brackets. Back then, every dollar over $X was taxed upwards of 91%. So, if you're an employer, why would you bother making over that? You keep nine cents on the dollar. It made much more sense for you to instead let someone else earn it. This gave us a middle class and gave everyone nice wages to spend in stores.

Now? It's like you said, for me to make an extra dollar someone higher up at my company has to make a dollar less. And why would they choose to do that? It isn't like they aren't working hard, and it isn't like I'm threatening to leave, so why not keep that money for themselves?

And, hence, jumps up the corporate ladder don't pay off immensely until you actually have budget control and can argue that a larger percentage of it goes to you, and the owners of your company (be it one man or a large group of shareholders) will do everything they can to keep you from earning more because that's then them earning less.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
21. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 6, 2014, 18:27 Beamer
 
NKD wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 18:22:
Beamer wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 16:53:
I can't imagine a way to argue that anything from the 70s or 80s is better than something like Adventure Time. Or even Animaniacs, which was more overtly educational and still way more interesting and far less vapid than the cardboard garbage of the 70s and 80s.

70s and 80s cartoons were the era of "cheap bullshit meant to sell toys." Yeah, I loved those cartoons in the 80s, and I get nostalgic about them sometimes, but looking back with a critical eye they just don't hold up compared to what is available to kids today on cable, Netflix etc. They were little more than cynical attempts to sell merchandise.

There's way more educational value on average and they give kids a lot more credit in terms of their level of intelligence and maturity. It's no surprise that modern cartoons are gaining a much larger adult audience than older cartoons. They are now designed with parents in mind.

And it's not just a modern thing. Even cartoons in the 40s and 50s had more depth than the cartoons of the 70s and 80s. Of course that's the culture of those eras. The 70s and 80s were about flashy appearance and lacking substance, and that was reflected in the cartoons.

I loved He-Man, but man, watching it now is beyond painful. Vapid. Vapid is the best way to describe it. As you mentioned, particularly in the 80s, cartoons existed to sell things and few cared about making something entertaining. They didn't think much of the kids they were trying to get to buy their products, and honestly, we still ate it up.

I look at some of the things out there now, again, like Adventure Time, and can't believe the depth of both the world and the content. Trying to explain to someone what happens in a particular 12.5 minute episode of Adventure Time is difficult, and for godssake, there was an episode that was basically about the sexual awakening of the protagonist with several references to masturbation. None of it for laughs, and all of it deep enough that the girl I was watching with missed all of that context.

Even stuff like Phineas and Ferb has much more depth to its world and wit to its jokes. Like you said, part of it is knowing parents will watch with it so writing in part for them, and part of it is just knowing kids are more sophisticated than everyone thought they were back in the 70s and 80s. I can't wait to see the type of creative stuff these kids do in 20 years when they're running the studios.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
20. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 6, 2014, 18:15 Beamer
 
Julio wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 18:10:
Perhaps the gaming industry will have to figure out how to do more with less, just like everyone else.


If you ran things, they would. Budgets would plummet as AAA games went for $10 and indie game sold for $0.99. When budgets fall, layoffs happen and quality goes with it.

Julio, what limits how many games you buy? Is it money, or is it actual time to play?

 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
19. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 6, 2014, 18:13 Beamer
 
Julio wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 18:02:
Beamer wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 14:43:
they basically need to sneeze or cough while licking your eyeball

This doesn't really deserve a response, but that's not the case.

It isn't communicable through the skin, so it is kind of true. It really takes direct contact through an orifice. The odds of it transmitting via sneeze are minimal. It's possible, but typically needs a more direct contact.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
19. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 6, 2014, 16:53 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 16:33:
Cutter wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 16:32:
No Saturday Morning Cartoons?!?!?!?!? What in the fucking fuck? How can you not have Saturday morning cartoons? I mean granted, kids cartoons have been shit since the 80s - and the 70s was the greatest era of them all - but no cartoons? It's what allows mom and dad some sleep. Jr. settling in with a bowl of Cap'n Crunch and some Pop Tarts while he watches cartoons.

It's over, Johnny! It's over!

Parents just let the kids watch Netflix instead, it has an absurd amount of kids content.

Most of which is infinitely better than the stuff Cutter is singling out as great. Again, just someone convinced what he discovered was better than what came later.

I can't imagine a way to argue that anything from the 70s or 80s is better than something like Adventure Time. Or even Animaniacs, which was more overtly educational and still way more interesting and far less vapid than the cardboard garbage of the 70s and 80s.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
17. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 6, 2014, 16:47 Beamer
 
NKD wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 16:39:
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Beamer wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 16:29:
Cutter wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 16:25:
Julio wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 14:48:
NKD wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 13:54:
Flat pricing is not fair pricing, by definition.

Interesting - to me charging each consumer the same price for the same product is fair. To do otherwise is unfair.

No, they should be able to charge what they want where they want. Similarly, consumers should have the right to shop around for better prices where ever they please too. If I feel I can make more money in one place than another I'll charge what the market will bear. However, I won't begrudge the consumer going somewhere else or buying a cheaper product. Regional pricing and resales are only a problem with bullshit like this saying you can't buy other places and/or resell.


Why would anyone ever buy from their locale if they can just as easily buy from a Russian ecommerce storefront?
That's right. The only way this works is if the people in one region pay their regional price. If everyone can buy from the Russian market then they have to charge the Russian market the same price. This effectively kills the Russian market and they may as well not even sell games there. Of course this sounds good to selfish citizens of wealthy countries, but its bad for the publisher and bad for the gamers in less wealthy countries.

I had a very, very, very wealthy friend.
His family was in Europe and had its hands in a few industries. One of those industries was pharmaceuticals. They didn't make pharmaceuticals, mind you. Instead, they bought pharmaceuticals from a poorer European country (think Albania), opened the packaging, put it in new packaging, and sold it in a wealthier European country (think France.) This kind of outraged me. They literally just bought low and sold high while adding absolutely nothing to the value chain. It was easy profit.
He was taken aback at my anger, and told me that it was ok, the government only allowed 15% of the market to be this kind of pharmaceuticals. Which sounds fine, but why did they allow it at all? Easy answer - the government officials in charge of this were frequent attendees at parties at the family mansion.

Drugs tend to be the single most common grey market item. There are huge issues with pharma, but in general drugs cost huge amounts of money to develop, but are needed everywhere. So countries in Africa tend to get them for free or close to it, because no one has money to pay. Either they get the drugs, or they die. Does this mean the drugs should be free in the US? Of course not (but, again, let's remove the part of the argument around US pricing and around health care coverage, those are not pertinent to this specific piece of the discussion.)

But then there's Cutter's argument, that consumers should be able to shop around. Great. This happens to some extent with the pharmaceuticals in Africa. Rather than going to the poor, much of it is stolen by bandits and sold on the black market. That way people in wealthier countries can get much cheaper drugs.
Greeeeeat.


Now, I get that games aren't life-and-death, nor are they a limited resource, but the underlying principles are the same.
 
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14. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 6, 2014, 16:29 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 16:25:
Julio wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 14:48:
NKD wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 13:54:
Flat pricing is not fair pricing, by definition.

Interesting - to me charging each consumer the same price for the same product is fair. To do otherwise is unfair.

No, they should be able to charge what they want where they want. Similarly, consumers should have the right to shop around for better prices where ever they please too. If I feel I can make more money in one place than another I'll charge what the market will bear. However, I won't begrudge the consumer going somewhere else or buying a cheaper product. Regional pricing and resales are only a problem with bullshit like this saying you can't buy other places and/or resell.


Why would anyone ever buy from their locale if they can just as easily buy from a Russian ecommerce storefront?
 
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News Comments > Game Reviews
33. Re: Game Reviews Oct 6, 2014, 16:11 Beamer
 
Dying 20 times to get to a single checkpoint sounds miserable to me.

So I don't play Pure Stealth games. I don't dislike that they're made, I don't complain when they're made, and I don't fault people that like them. I personally don't. That isn't reason enough to rail against them on Blues and say the developers are stupid for making something that appeals to people other than myself.
 
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54. Re: etc. Oct 6, 2014, 14:55 Beamer
 
UHD wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 14:52:
Beamer wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 14:09:
If one were to read the actual "Gamers are Dead" articles not written by someone trying to light a fire, that's basically what they say: "the public seems to think gamers are all misogynistic manchildren, but they aren't. Gamers are everyone. At this point, we need to kill off the 'gamer' stereotype and acknowledge that we are all play games."

If that's the case then when the hell is the big deal? Did people read "gamers are misogynistic manchildren" and immediately start flipping their shit without reading the rest? Has to be more to it than that (conspiracy theories aside).

Verno wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 14:16:
I'll let ASeven worry about his own credibility, in any case in the context of your original quote I reiterate that one group has engaged in actual censorship here and the other has not. So to me its not about two groups yelling about censorship, its about one group actually censoring another and getting appropriately taken to task for it. That's amongst other things obviously.

Fair enough then, though I'm still not convinced there's a genuine media conspiracy or campaign here.

Activists exist and will always exist; engaging negatively with them won't change that. Whatever happened to things like Child's Play which was genuinely positive and started out of spite of detractors?

If it's about journalistic integrity (as much as video game journalism can be called that), it's been touched on before, but it's more a product of the state of the industry than specific individuals being douchebags. Not to say douchebaggery doesn't exist, but there's often a reason it flourishes in some places more than others.

As far as I can tell anything beyond the original series of 'Gamers are Dead' articles have been responses to backlash. Everyone's doubling-down and nothing's really getting resolved. I guess if being angry makes you happy more power to you. I'm content with a reasonable discussion, and barring that, hyperbole.

(you being general you, not you specifically; that should be obvious in context...)

Yes, many of them did that.
Leigh also did a really, really bad job getting her point across. She was angry, and didn't properly spell out "if this pisses you off, you're probably not one of them."

Ironically, that turned a ton of people into "them."

But the editorials that followed it did a much better job explaining what they meant. By that point, people were just reading the title and adding sites to "blacklists."

Basically, Leigh Alexander lit everything on fire and laughed as she did it.
 
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10. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 6, 2014, 14:50 Beamer
 
Julio wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 14:48:
NKD wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 13:54:
Flat pricing is not fair pricing, by definition.

Interesting - to me charging each consumer the same price for the same product is fair. To do otherwise is unfair.

Says the guy living in one of the wealthiest countries in the world.
 
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17. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 6, 2014, 14:43 Beamer
 
Julio wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 14:40:
Beamer wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 12:30:
How not to get ebola: don't roll around in the blood of someone bleeding from their eyes.

Seriously, ebola is less contagious than HIV and, while it transmits via bodily fluids like HIV, it only transmits when people are bleeding out their orifices. It's pretty easy to avoid in first world countries.

According to the CDC, you can get it from someone sneezing, coughing, or their sweat. Even shaking hands with them can give it to you. Touching a surface several hours after someone who has it can also give you ebola.

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html

Yup, but sneezing and coughing aren't symptoms, and they basically need to sneeze or cough while licking your eyeball. Plus, again, by the time someone is contagious they're bleeding out the anus. They're most likely not walking around your home licking your kitchen counter.
 
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8. Re: gjbloom@yahoo.com Oct 6, 2014, 14:26 Beamer
 
ColBlister wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 14:17:
Beamer wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 12:19:
When the average American household earns $40k, and the average Russian household income is $17,000 per year, there's bound to be pricing differences between regions, as there's pricing differences between all goods across regions.

Not all goods. In fact, most goods are priced beyond the buying power of the less wealthy. There's just no way the average Bangladeshi will ever afford a Bugatti Veyron, and Bugatti isn't marketing a cut-rate Veyron to sell to the less well-heeled.

By offering discounted pricing in less-affluent markets, software manufacturers are revealing that they are able to make a profit at this lower price. This implies they're charging a higher price in more affluent markets because that's what they believe those suckers are willing to pay.

Bugatti's aren't very good comparisons, though. Let's break goods into three categories:

1) Goods produced locally, like bread and milk. These vary with currency inflation. They're much more expensive in the US than in cheaper countries
2) Goods produced externally and imported. These vary much less so. In some cases, like Brazil, it's due to tariffs, but usually it's due to simple costs to produce. A Bugatti will cost VW hundreds of thousands apiece, and that does not change when it crosses country lines
3) Digital goods. These have no variable costs associated with them. It costs a lot to make the game, but next to nothing to sell it. So, in essence, anything you make is a bonus. The games are typically made in the US and budgeted against US sales prices. In other countries, these prices can't be justified, and people would just pirate, so you're looking to be low enough to get them to not pirate. It can only be a small percentage of their wages, again, similar to the US

If you want it to be flat, you're either looking at every game being dirt cheap, and budgets will reflect this, or every game being expensive, and no one outside of the US, Europe, Japan and Australia will ever pay for a game.

Because you're wrong, they are NOT making a profit at those prices. They are making a profit in the US, Europe, Japan and Australia. They are just making bonus money in those other countries. Again, because distribution costs are low and there really are no variable costs involved - so it's a choice between selling for very little (and making a few extra bucks) or just letting the product be pirated in those regions.
Sorry, your analysis doesn't hold up.
 
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51. Re: etc. Oct 6, 2014, 14:09 Beamer
 
UHD wrote on Oct 6, 2014, 13:39:

Kind of, it reads really awkward. "This is why we need to educate and spread awareness that not all gamers are misogynistic manchildren" is probably closer to the truth, or at least the intent. The last bit is creative license on my part, change to suit your needs.

If one were to read the actual "Gamers are Dead" articles not written by someone trying to light a fire, that's basically what they say: "the public seems to think gamers are all misogynistic manchildren, but they aren't. Gamers are everyone. At this point, we need to kill off the 'gamer' stereotype and acknowledge that we are all play games."
 
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15. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 6, 2014, 12:30 Beamer
 
How not to get ebola: don't roll around in the blood of someone bleeding from their eyes.

Seriously, ebola is less contagious than HIV and, while it transmits via bodily fluids like HIV, it only transmits when people are bleeding out their orifices. It's pretty easy to avoid in first world countries.
 
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