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News Comments > Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare Trailer
16. Re: Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare Trailer Oct 20, 2014, 12:04 Beamer
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Oct 20, 2014, 07:25:
hmmm...I own all of them except Ghosts (a huge failure of a game) - and maybe I am getting old as well...as I didn't see ANYTHING in that trailer that would make me want to spend my money on it....

I still say Ghosts was hands down the best single player since the original MW. No infinite spawning, etc.
But the multiplayer was worthless and terrible. Outside of the dog. People mock the dog here all the time, but the dog was an absolute blast in multiplayer. The bots in multiplayer were solid, too. But the maps and perks were so dull.
 
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News Comments > Morning Safety Dance
14. Re: Morning Safety Dance Oct 20, 2014, 12:03 Beamer
 
Xil wrote on Oct 20, 2014, 11:53:
nin wrote on Oct 20, 2014, 09:10:
Beware: Never Download “Codecs” or “Players” To Watch Videos Online.

Amazed people still do that shit.


you got to admit some of the pages out there are wel made -as in doing a good job to confuse people with popups and buttons and stuff..... people want to watch something, see a popup with stuff, you want to watch click yes...... I can see it happen

Yeah, I was trying to download an application to tell me precisely what was using my RAM in a better way than Task Manager a few months ago and the shady site hosting the file was one of those ones that would have a 15 second countdown then pop up "click here to download." Same thing downloading sites have done for ages. Usually, though, they also pop up the download. This one popped up a download link for a Downloader, not the actual program I wanted - I had to click the link for the program I wanted.

Sneaky. And also why I so rarely bother downloading any applications from small devs anymore. If they aren't hosting themselves, then there's a good chance it's on a shady downloading site. Hell, even CNet's Download.com has been shady for at least, what, 10 years? 12? Trying to get you to install Ask.com for every single thing you download?
 
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News Comments > Sunday Interviews
17. Re: Sunday Interviews Oct 19, 2014, 17:02 Beamer
 
PropheT wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 16:49:
Beamer wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 16:25:
Except she's not trying to censor anything or force anything or ban anything. She's not trying to pass legislation and not trying to outlaw anything.

Bullshit. 'We're Going to Fix This' very pointedly means 'We're Going to Fix This In the Image I Deem Fit' and you and everyone else who's ever read anything she's written knows it.

You don't have to have veto power to get things banned these days, you just have to raise enough of a stink to sway the mob in your favor. It's not a protest for legal action, it's a call to arms for a witch hunt... it's worse than Jack Thompson, because nobody with a clear mind and conscience is going to have to examine facts and succeed with a vote on this. You either go with what she does or get declared a misogynist witch for not supporting her and her witch hunt.

Fixing something doesn't mean censoring or forcing or banning. It means making people realize how what they're doing is lazy and could be made better without much effort.

And I still don't see how her image of "more deep and thought out roles for women" is a controversial image to aspire to.
 
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News Comments > etc.
60. Re: etc. Oct 19, 2014, 17:00 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 16:54:
C'mon guys, really. Do you really think it's just because we can't understand English. REALLY? NKD is obviously an intelligent and moderate poster. Now all of a sudden he lacks basic reading comprehension skills or had trouble with basic English?

Tell me you never heard anyone say "This is why I hate Christianity" when that awful Westboro Baptist Church would make the news. Or that you never heard someone bashing Muslims after 9/11. All members of the Tea Party are racist homophobes, haven't you heard? It is a natural tendency for people to generalize based on what is presented as the face of a culture or movement. It happens all of the time. Sly people will make use of this when trying to garner sympathy for their side and discredit the opposition. That is precisely what people are doing here, and it is so obvious I can't believe that some people don't see it.

They don't have to claim that they feel threatened by everyone for that to be the narrative. By his wording "a perceived threat from Gamersgate" NOT a perceived threat by a few individuals - is clearly meant to discredit an entire movement, not point out that there are a few loonies within it.

I'd hope self-identifying as a gamer is something seen more as a choice than religion.

And you're saying "all members of the Tea Party." But that has "all." Gamers are literally sending death threats to Anita Sarkeesian. Gamers are literally shitting all over Twitter saying women are ruining games.

These are factual statements. It doesn't mean all gamers. And "gamer" isn't really a protected class and I think a lot of people find it odd that some view it similarly to religion.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Interviews
11. Re: Sunday Interviews Oct 19, 2014, 16:37 Beamer
 
Dmitri_M wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 16:37:
Beamer wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 16:25:
Dmitri_M wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 16:19:
Jack Thompson 2? Except without the conservative white male baggage much easier for the press to get on board.

Except she's not trying to censor anything or force anything or ban anything. She's not trying to pass legislation and not trying to outlaw anything.

She even points out in this very interview that games can be part of a pattern and still be wonderful and engaging and fun.

Relax crusader

This makes absolutely no sense. You're in here posting about how someone is Jack Thompson. That's a crusade that makes zero sense. Again, she's never even demanded video games change. She's asking developers to realize the lazy things they're doing and be better.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Interviews
9. Re: Sunday Interviews Oct 19, 2014, 16:33 Beamer
 
ASeven wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 16:32:
Beamer wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 16:25:
Dmitri_M wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 16:19:
Jack Thompson 2? Except without the conservative white male baggage much easier for the press to get on board.

Except she's not trying to censor anything or force anything or ban anything. She's not trying to pass legislation and not trying to outlaw anything.

She even points out in this very interview that games can be part of a pattern and still be wonderful and engaging and fun.

Except she personally shut down Thunderfoot's twitter account. That, Beamer, is real censorship, shutting a voice down, not removing ads. That's your idol right there, using censorship when she seems she can get away with it.

She reported Thunderf00t. She did not shut him down. She reported the things he said and Twitter deemed him a repulsive enough piece of shit with a long enough history of being a repulsive piece of shit that they no longer wanted him as part of their service. How is that different than someone hitting the "Report" button here and getting Space Captain banned? How is that different than sending advertisers an email demanding they pull the funding that keeps a site in business?

Again, Thunderf00t has no history of giving a shit about video games, but he had previously been fired from his job as a blogger for being misogynist. He has a history of losing things because he says awful, terrible crap. Just like Space Captain. This is another example of it.
 
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News Comments > etc.
57. Re: etc. Oct 19, 2014, 16:32 Beamer
 
Quboid wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 16:29:
NKD wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 15:36:
Quboid wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 15:02:
Yes you did. You implied they were claiming to feel threatened by everybody who is concerned about how game journalists go about their business, which you very clearly are.

They wrote that line because they have been receiving threats, and because that is pertinent to the editorial and to the specific point that was being made. They didn't imply otherwise, you inferred the wrong thing and then implied that it applied to you when it didn't, i.e. you made the same mistake that is behind most of the recent GamerGate outcry.

They said they were scared. They said they perceived GamerGate was a danger to them and their families. They literally said that. They didn't imply it, nor did I infer anything. It's what they fucking said. I don't see how they could be more clear in what they are saying.

That doesn't mean every member of GamerGate. This is basic English; "GamerGate presented enough of a perceived danger" means that they think the danger comes entirely from GamerGate, it does not mean that they think the entirety of GamerGate is a danger.

I swear this whole argument keeps coming back to this basic English problem.

"Australians eat Vegemite" doesn't mean all Australians eat vegemite.
"Brazilians like soccer" doesn't mean all Brazilians like soccer.
"Americans eat too much fast food" doesn't mean all Americans eat fast food.
"Gamers are lashing out in creepy misogynist ways" doesn't mean all gamers are doing this.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Interviews
7. Re: Sunday Interviews Oct 19, 2014, 16:25 Beamer
 
Dmitri_M wrote on Oct 19, 2014, 16:19:
Jack Thompson 2? Except without the conservative white male baggage much easier for the press to get on board.

Except she's not trying to censor anything or force anything or ban anything. She's not trying to pass legislation and not trying to outlaw anything.

She even points out in this very interview that games can be part of a pattern and still be wonderful and engaging and fun.
 
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News Comments > etc.
43. Re: etc. Oct 19, 2014, 02:14 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 11:40:
Numinar wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 11:22:
Do you feel guilty? I don't. I can identify as a gamer and know those articles were not talking about me.

I can identify as a gamer, know they're not talking about me and still be annoyed at the constant sermons and biased editorials.

So yeah, complain that they don't represent you. Subscribe to an outlet or start you own that does.

Sure and I suspect that will be the result of whats happened here. That logic works both ways too. 'if you want more games with women in them then go ahead and make them, no one is stopping you'.


I can be a gamer, know they're not talking about me, and be annoyed at the total morons doing and saying things that keep necessitating these kinds of articles.
 
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News Comments > etc.
132. Re: etc. Oct 18, 2014, 18:22 Beamer
 
Dmitri_M wrote on Oct 18, 2014, 17:56:
Beamer wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 20:12:
Prez wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 20:04:
Yeah, you are right -it was Escapist, not Gamasutra. My mistake.

...one that has a lovely "GIRLS!" section and runs regular articles on hot female teachers sleeping with students.

Not surprisingly, they're considered one of the few "pro-GG" sites.

See, this is what I don't get. So if you have a site geared towards gaming males, and you show images of the beautiful female form, "naturally" you are pro Gamergate, and by extension, misogynist. I cannot get that logic. I don't find it to be sexist that guys like seeing images of gorgeous women, any more than I view seeing my hundreds of female Facebook friends pass around images of mostly naked strapping men as sexist. I view it as human.

EDIT: And before anyone asks, I have hundreds of female Facebook friends because I work in animal rescue which for reasons I won't go into is predominantly female (we are talking by a factor of 20 to 1 by my estimation), and I network with rescues across the country.

It is human. Absolutely.
But, again, things come down to trends. Someone telling one racist joke isn't necessarily a racist. Someone telling many racist jokes almost definitely is.

Are you equating love of the female form to racism?

Misogyny to it, yes. A penchant for treating women like meat is misogyny. It's accepted misogyny, institutionalized, but still the same. See: Discussions on booth babes.
 
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News Comments > etc.
125. Re: etc. Oct 18, 2014, 03:24 Beamer
 
Prez, I'd also like to formally say, I apologize for when I was a dick to you in the past. I can't say you never deserved it, because I don't remember why, but I can say you probably didn't. I was probably just being entirely a dick. We don't see eye to eye on everything, but you clearly put thought into things and I have a ton of respect for it.  
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News Comments > etc.
120. Re: etc. Oct 17, 2014, 20:13 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 19:40:
Beamer wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 19:33:
None of this has anything to do with anything we were discussing.
Thanks for trying. Everyone agrees Sam Biddle is a moron. Everyone thinks the people favoriting it were idiots. Only you are getting angry at people saying he isn't a games journalist.
Actually it has plenty to do with what we're discussing. He is a journalist, he is a member of gawker. No one is disputing that. What you're failing to catch is that other "game journalists" retweeted it, and marked it as a favorite. Not rocket surgery. Yep they are idiots for doing so, but this reflects directly on them now. That means there's at least 5 other major sites where people also believe that this is acceptable.

Strange, but I don't seem to be angry at anything. Actually I just had a great breakfast for supper. AKA french toast, and am in quite a good mood.

Julio was proud because a game journalist was taken down.
Except he wasn't a game journalist.

Please reread the conversation you entered into because you're quoting it but not at all getting what was being said.
 
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News Comments > etc.
119. Re: etc. Oct 17, 2014, 20:12 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 20:04:
Yeah, you are right -it was Escapist, not Gamasutra. My mistake.

...one that has a lovely "GIRLS!" section and runs regular articles on hot female teachers sleeping with students.

Not surprisingly, they're considered one of the few "pro-GG" sites.

See, this is what I don't get. So if you have a site geared towards gaming males, and you show images of the beautiful female form, "naturally" you are pro Gamergate, and by extension, misogynist. I cannot get that logic. I don't find it to be sexist that guys like seeing images of gorgeous women, any more than I view seeing my hundreds of female Facebook friends pass around images of mostly naked strapping men as sexist. I view it as human.

EDIT: And before anyone asks, I have hundreds of female Facebook friends because I work in animal rescue which for reasons I won't go into is predominantly female (we are talking by a factor of 20 to 1 by my estimation), and I network with rescues across the country.

It is human. Absolutely.
But, again, things come down to trends. Someone telling one racist joke isn't necessarily a racist. Someone telling many racist jokes almost definitely is.
 
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News Comments > etc.
116. Re: etc. Oct 17, 2014, 19:33 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 19:25:
UHD wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 18:35:
It means they agreed with it. It doesn't mean Sam Biddle is a gaming journalist. You can agree with someone without being a part of their clique. The world is not that black and white.
So you're telling me that said "journalists" agree that bullying is a good thing? You're also telling me that in "anti-bullying month" we have this swath of journalists who don't have the optics to see why this is bad. And you're also telling me that these are the people support what many kids in school suffered through and want to do it again.

You know what this seems like? The bullies simply grew up, and got jobs as "social advocates" and "journalists" because the only thing they know how to do is bully people. Well taking a page out of their book, this means that the entire anti-gg segment supports bullying.

None of this has anything to do with anything we were discussing.
Thanks for trying. Everyone agrees Sam Biddle is a moron. Everyone thinks the people favoriting it were idiots. Only you are getting angry at people saying he isn't a games journalist.
 
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News Comments > etc.
113. Re: etc. Oct 17, 2014, 18:56 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 18:22:
Beamer wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 17:41:

Sam Biddle is a moron, but he's a moron that has absolutely nothing to do with games or gamers. He deserves to be endlessly bashed for saying dumb things, but Julio is being a jackass if he thinks that Sam Biddle writes for a game site. He does not. He writes for a gossip site.
Oh? I guess that's why when you look at the tweets, you see all of those "game journalists" retweeting it and favoriting the pro-bullying message right?

And were their ad campaigns removed for it?
No.

I really don't understand what you're arguing. Julio gleefully said something about removing all the advertising from those evil "game" sites, and I pointed out that Sam Biddle does not represent any game sites, and you're, what, arguing that?

I'm certainly not defending Sam Biddle. Just stating that, factually, he is not a game journalist and, anecdotally, very few game sites are running any anti-GG articles or commentary.
 
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News Comments > etc.
112. Re: etc. Oct 17, 2014, 18:54 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 18:17:
Beamer wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 16:37:
As I keep pointing out, game sites have been quiet since the "gamers are dead" articles and that was about 8 weeks ago.

Well there was that abysmal piece (I think it was on Gamasutra) "Here are the opinions of 8 female developers who didn't give there names but you trust me don't you?" followed by page after page of melodrama, scorn, and condescension...

The Escapist has been one of the few sites that keeps running articles. Its founder also had an interview with Adam Baldwin about GamerGate on one of his other sites, one that has a lovely "GIRLS!" section and runs regular articles on hot female teachers sleeping with students.

Not surprisingly, they're considered one of the few "pro-GG" sites.
 
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News Comments > etc.
108. Re: etc. Oct 17, 2014, 17:41 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 17:12:
Beamer wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 16:37:
That douche isn't from a gaming site and Mercedes didn't pull it from a gaming site. He's from a "silicon valley gossip" site.
As I keep pointing out, game sites have been quiet since the "gamers are dead" articles and that was about 8 weeks ago.
Actually he is, so is the EIC. The gawker brand includes gaming on a variety of their satellite sites.

Yes, Gawker owns game sites. He is not an employee of any of them, though. He solely writes for Valleywag.

It's like how Rupert Murdoch owns The Wall Street Journal and The New York Post, but they're not the same and the editor of one doesn't write for the other, right?

Sam Biddle is a moron, but he's a moron that has absolutely nothing to do with games or gamers. He deserves to be endlessly bashed for saying dumb things, but Julio is being a jackass if he thinks that Sam Biddle writes for a game site. He does not. He writes for a gossip site.
 
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News Comments > etc.
105. Re: etc. Oct 17, 2014, 16:37 Beamer
 
Julio wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 16:35:
ASeven wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 14:52:
Allegedly Mercedes Benz has just withdrawn their ads from Gawker Karma's a bitch.

Glad to see it, looking forward to seeing those "gaming" sites wither from treating gamers like crap. Mercedes is making the right move here.

That douche isn't from a gaming site and Mercedes didn't pull it from a gaming site. He's from a "silicon valley gossip" site.
As I keep pointing out, game sites have been quiet since the "gamers are dead" articles and that was about 8 weeks ago.
 
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News Comments > etc.
101. Re: etc. Oct 17, 2014, 13:41 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 13:16:
Can you link me?

So now you want ME to become ASeven?

Just kidding; I actually like when people dig up different links so I can read what goes on on both sides. Basically I'm saying that the Sarkeesian videos were the shot that ended the "Cold War" between gamers and the press and turned it into a full on battle. I only focus on her because of how the press falls over themselves holding her up as their champion. My beef is now and always has been with the press; I really don't care about Sarkeesian as she is herself admitted she is not a gamer (despite lying about it).

HA! I'd never ask that, Prez.
What I meant by "being ASeven" is posting outside articles that don't have much specifically to do with the discussion at hand and adding little to no actual commentary about what they're saying.

Most of what I see when people say "everyone is doing this!" are links to some random jackass on Twitter saying all gamers that either do or do not support gamergate are ISIS/Hitler/Communists/Tea Partiers/etc.
 
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97. Re: etc. Oct 17, 2014, 13:14 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 13:11:
Beamer wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 12:24:

Who is saying "oh my god the urgency, we need to do this now?"

The press

Beamer wrote on Oct 17, 2014, 12:24:
or even "you people are awful?"

The press. In truth Anita Sarkeesian's video's wouldn't be getting the attention they have been but for the overly complicit crusading gaming press that jumped on her bandwagon without ever mentioning the numerous serious flaws in her argument. If the same press reviewed games in the manner that it has championed Sarkeesian's poorly developed argument every game's score would be a 10 out of 10. Without the press falling over themselves putting such a dishonest and poorly qualified hipster feminist on a pedestal because she happens to be espousing the same nonsense they support she would have been largely dismissed by those who disagree with her as just another hypercritical hack who criticizes out of the usual lack of understanding of games and gaming culture.

Can you link me?
I really think it comes back to people being wholly unable to understand when people are condemning part of a group they identify with. For some reason they assume it means "all." But when it is about a group they aren't a part of, they naturally assume it doesn't mean all.

If I say the buildings in New York are tall, I don't mean all the buildings in New York are tall, or even most of the buildings in New York. But damn, there are some tall buildings in New York.
 
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