Send News. Want a reply? Read this. More in the FAQ.   News Forum - All Forums - Mobile - PDA - RSS Headlines  RSS Headlines   Twitter  Twitter
Customize
User Settings
Styles:
LAN Parties
Upcoming one-time events:

Regularly scheduled events

User information for .

Real Name .   
Search for:
 
Sort results:   Ascending Descending
Limit results:
 
 
 
Nickname Beamer
Email Concealed by request - Send Mail
ICQ None given.
Description
Homepage None given.
Signed On Jan 9, 2003, 00:22
Total Comments 13002 (Ninja)
User ID 15739
 
User comment history
< Newer [ 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 ] Older >


News Comments > Op Ed
53. Re: Op Ed May 23, 2014, 01:56 Beamer
 
Creston wrote on May 22, 2014, 22:44:
Beamer wrote on May 22, 2014, 19:04:
They can do better. We should expect our companies to do better. But, for whatever reason, while this board is very quick to make all kinds of demands that corporations do everything better, those same people are equally quick to defend them whenever it turns to race, gender or sexuality.

Yeah, I'm going to put "NINTENDO ONLY HAS 'WHITE' CHARACTERS IN THEIR GAMES!" as approximately #93,478 on the list of "Shit corporations have to improve."

But hey, keep fighting the good fight. I'm going to focus more on US corporations trying to fucking rape the internet into oblivion.

Just because something isn't terribly significant and is low hanging fruit means we need 60 posts about how stupid it is?

Creston, you're a smart guy. You see what happens whenever race and gender come up in this forum as well as I do. You can really deny that games have an issue? It sets many here absolutely frothing at the mouth in ways that Jack Thompson always failed to do.
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Op Ed
48. Re: Op Ed May 22, 2014, 20:40 Beamer
 
Suppa7 wrote on May 22, 2014, 20:27:
Beamer wrote on May 22, 2014, 19:04:
They can do better. We should expect our companies to do better. But, for whatever reason, while this board is very quick to make all kinds of demands that corporations do everything better, those same people are equally quick to defend them whenever it turns to race, gender or sexuality.

That's because we're talking about escapism here, we're not talking about some little old lady being pushed out of her apartment or being discriminated against. We're talking about FUCKING FICTIONAL CHARACTERS IN FICTIONAL WORLDS. Yes having more white/brown/asian/whatever models is going to change the world... Not.

People like you need to get a fucking clue, 99% of people of all colors and creeds give not one fuck about sex/race/gender in videogames. That tells you all you need to know about the race/sex/gender weirdo's on the internet broadcasting their extreme minority opinion.

"It's just fiction" is a funny argument to make. Is fiction not a reflection of society? If America is 12.5% black, and even more Asian and Hispanic, yet TV is 90% white, should we say "it's just fiction?"

No. That's lunacy. And it's you defending racism.
Sorry, integration matters, even in fiction. Yes, it's true that white people are far less likely to watch black people than vice versa, so what makes business sense is to stick with wealthy, affluent white people in sitcoms. But that just enforces the status quo. People need to adjust to things, and you want your entertainment to help lead that.

"People like you" is also funny. And arguing "it's just videogames" is also funny. But, looking at your posting history, it's full of removed posts, weasel words, and a weird superiority where you constantly call everyone else, and everything else, "stupid."
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Op Ed
46. Re: Op Ed May 22, 2014, 19:04 Beamer
 
I'm sorry, I still find it odd to cop out to "but it'd be a token character!"

Was Brock in Pokemon a token character?
Was Barrett in FF7?
Anthy in RGU?

I don't think anyone is asking for a token character. People are asking that there just be some diversity. It seems that many here think that "darker skin" inherently means "token character," which itself should kind of show some of the problem of having so many white-washed characters, no? An entire group of gamers on this board seem to struggle to conceive a way Nintendo could create a darker skinned character that isn't a token.
Everyone gets that Japan is almost exclusively Japanese, but Nintendo games aren't exclusively sold in Japan, and the whole "we're reflecting our own culture, solely" excuse doesn't fly very well in 2014. It may for a small company that doesn't know any other culture, but, again, Nintendo is one of the largest, broadest companies in this industry.

They can do better. We should expect our companies to do better. But, for whatever reason, while this board is very quick to make all kinds of demands that corporations do everything better, those same people are equally quick to defend them whenever it turns to race, gender or sexuality.
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Gooseman Outs Half-Life 3 and L4D3 Development?
3. Re: Gooseman Outs Half-Life 3 and L4D3 Development? May 22, 2014, 17:08 Beamer
 
jacobvandy wrote on May 22, 2014, 16:58:
He's right, it isn't news. We've had much more informative leaks in the past several years...

Gooseman left Valve in, what, 2006?
With Valve, it's impossible to tell if he has current contacts or is just remembering work nearing a decade old, haha.
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Op Ed
26. Re: Op Ed May 22, 2014, 13:39 Beamer
 
scarlet wrote on May 22, 2014, 13:36:
one-sided opinions on the global warming/climate change/[new meme] climate disruption front for a long time)

http://i.imgur.com/8YbZ8cv.jpg
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Op Ed
24. Re: Op Ed May 22, 2014, 13:23 Beamer
 
I'm going to bow out, as no one really cares what I have to say, I'll just continue to point out how weird I find it that people get so defensive when an improvement is brought up that involves something not exactly what they are.

Just ask yourselves if something is an improvement. You don't need to be defensive. Just ask yourself if things can be improved. If yes, why do you get so angry when people suggest these improvements?
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Op Ed
18. Re: Op Ed May 22, 2014, 12:58 Beamer
 
descender wrote on May 22, 2014, 12:56:
Which of these franchise characters have been created since "diversity" awareness even became a public issue? None of them?

How many other companies are making games with minority protagonists for Nintendo to include in their brawl mash-ups? *crickets*

You know, I could see how this could be improved...

Oh wait, Nintendo actually already provided this improvement by adding "mii's" that you can design to look however you want, and play with them!

If an african video game company started releasing games with all-black casts... would that be more or less racist? Would Nintendo be obligated to include their characters in their games simply because they exist?


EDIT:
Dear Ars,

Fuck off.

Signed.

I knew someone would bring up the whole "if an African video game company..." argument. Because, you know, comparing a long-established global, multinational, hundreds-of-billions-of-dollar video game empire to a small African company is perfectly valid. You should have the same expectations between them.
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Op Ed
17. Re: Op Ed May 22, 2014, 12:57 Beamer
 
Henry Dorsett wrote on May 22, 2014, 12:25:
Beamer, I think I speak for most of us when I say that you really need to screw off. Nobody cares. The Japanese make mostly Japanese characters because, SURPRISE, they're in a culture which is almost entirely Japanese. If you have a problem with that, why not fly over there and picket outside Nintendo's home office? Surely that would make them aware that there are other cultures better than arguing with the rest of us.

Again, this is just a defense of status quo. You're even annoyed that I'm telling you there may be a problem.

And I'm not trying to get much from you. Would Nintendo be more inclusive if they had even one minority character?
Yes.
Is being more inclusive a good thing, especially from an 800lb gorilla in the industry?
Yes.

So I can't understand why white males, and it's almost always white males, get so uppity whenever someone says "you know, they really should take some steps towards being more inclusive. It'd probably better round them out, help them appeal to more people, and just help progress society a bit more away from the whole 'white=good' thing we've got going on."
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Op Ed
13. Re: Op Ed May 22, 2014, 12:24 Beamer
 
descender wrote on May 22, 2014, 12:20:
They are cartoon video game characters! If "race" is all you can think of when you look at them then a racist is probably what you are.

I wouldn't waste too much time defending an article that white-washes (see what I did there) a few giant reptile/lizards, a green dinosaur with a tongue longer than it's body, a guy wearing a mask that spits bullets, and other racially un-identifiable characters as "all white". As if saying that "all white people are the same" is any less racist than what the article is complaining about in the first place.

Imagine the outcry if the "evil counterparts" Wario and Waluigi were black guys with afro's? Or if all of the Bowser kids had squinty eyes to resemble asians? How would including identifiable racial stereotypes in games be LESS racist than not referencing or including "race" at all?

As far as people "identifying" with the protagonists they are playing... that's just splitting hairs and not something I would believe has ever swayed someone from playing a video game. Do you always "role-play" the race of the person that you are playing? Then you are probably a racist!

Maybe the need to self-identify with the mass-murdering psychopaths we play in video games IS the actual problem.

Or maybe this is more weird defensiveness from someone told something he's used to could be improved in some way, resulting in that person going on a weird rant rather than say "y'know, I can see how this could probably be improved."
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Op Ed
11. Re: Op Ed May 22, 2014, 12:08 Beamer
 
mch wrote on May 22, 2014, 12:03:
Beamer wrote on May 22, 2014, 11:53:
mch wrote on May 22, 2014, 11:39:
Beamer wrote on May 22, 2014, 10:25:
You guys sure love status quo.

Rolleyes

A fantastic contribution to the thread.

edit: you're not worth the time.

Because it was a deep-thought defense of racial exclusion?
"Everything can be just white people and that's fine. There's no reason to ever embrace the fact that our world, and even just our country, is more than just light-skinned people. That darker skinned people are not only excluded from most media but, in many cultures, the darker skinned they are the more shunned they are, is fine, really. There's no need for anyone to ever worry about making small strides towards changing this, and anyone questioning whether they should deserves to be openly mocked. Status quo!"

Yes, it's a straw man, but when you sit here and say "It's how it's always been, it's fine, stop finding arguments," which is what the posts prior to yours said, this is how it comes across. It's people literally defending status quo by explaining why it exists. Why it exists isn't an excuse to have it continue, or totally avoid a discussion about its impact and whether it should continue.
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Op Ed
9. Re: Op Ed May 22, 2014, 11:53 Beamer
 
mch wrote on May 22, 2014, 11:39:
Beamer wrote on May 22, 2014, 10:25:
You guys sure love status quo.

Rolleyes

A fantastic contribution to the thread.


It's amazing to come into this topic and see a bunch of white guys explain why this isn't an issue. But, mostly, they're just explaining why it happens and assuming that, since it isn't overt racism there's absolutely no reason to ever change anything, because everything is good. Racism and racial exclusion only matters when it's intentional!

Except, elsewhere on this board, we've had people often say they can't play as female characters because it breaks their immersion. At least one guy also said he can't play as non-white or non-males because he's a white male and he can't get into a game because he's a white male.

So why is it ok to keep excusing Nintendo and saying "it's their culture, white beings have no race!" and not just say "well, they do this because of their culture, but video games impact a much more diverse culture than their own, and with regions like South America growing rapidly, and with the United States being such a major market and increasingly less white, it would probably be nice of them to include characters that others can identify with."

I mean, the whole "it's anime" argument falls a bit short when so many anime shows have darker skinned supporting characters.
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Op Ed
3. Re: Op Ed May 22, 2014, 10:25 Beamer
 
You guys sure love status quo.  
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Out of the Blue
36. Re: Out of the Blue May 20, 2014, 21:34 Beamer
 
None of that made much sense. When you resort to baby talk, you've lost. No one ever said your teeth were guaranteed to fall out. More straw men.  
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Out of the Blue
34. Re: Out of the Blue May 20, 2014, 21:04 Beamer
 
I'm sure you have a rock that keeps lions away, too. It must work, as you have no lions near you, right?  
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Morning Consolidation
16. Re: Morning Consolidation May 20, 2014, 19:27 Beamer
 
HorrorScope wrote on May 20, 2014, 19:26:
Beamer wrote on May 20, 2014, 13:44:
These things make for great adult party games, with non-gamers really liking it. But this was true for the Wii, too. How long does that last? A few nights? And then what? And how many new ideas could have come forward with the new, more powerful Kinect? We had dancing, we had a few party games, would anything monumentally different come out that would get those non-gaming friends interested in trying again?

Right. And that sort of sounds attractive until you really find out adult friends don't typically really want to do this all that often. I've never really had a friend asking to come over to play, sort of we steer them towards it while onsite, have some fun, but never anything requested.

Drinking, movies, bar, dinner, table top game, camping, trip... that's about it for adult couples entertainment. Generally.

Like I said, it lasts a few nights.
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Out of the Blue
29. Re: Out of the Blue May 20, 2014, 16:32 Beamer
 
nin wrote on May 20, 2014, 16:29:
DukeFNukem wrote on May 20, 2014, 16:27:
nin wrote on May 20, 2014, 15:54:
DukeFNukem wrote on May 20, 2014, 15:32:
But he said h2o is poisonous. How does over-hydration qualify as a poisonous substance? That's the part I am having a problem understanding.

poisonous - a substance with an inherent property that tends to destroy life or impair health.

I don't think there are inherent properties in water that destroy life, therefore, classifying it as poison seems somewhat silly. But whatever floats your boat. It would be akin to saying since floods kill people it follows that water is poisonous. Are we starting to see the crazy of the comment that water is poisonous? If not I can give more examples.

Seeing as your own quote says "impair health" I think you answered your own question.


Umm, there was a reason I posted the whole sentence and not just two words of the sentence. If you guys wanna play word games knock yourself out. I never in my life heard of water(h2o) being classified as a poison. I never seen on my bottle of nestle water a number for a poison control center. But I'll look again just in case you guys know something I don't. I think we are using the word 'poisonous' just a lil bit too liberally here.

Keep moving those goal posts, it's cool...


He's been doing it at the start. In one post he created the strawman of fluoride increasing IQs. The study says it has no effect on IQ, not that it increases IQ, but hey, why look at facts when you can keep changing the argument you make?
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Out of the Blue
28. Re: Out of the Blue May 20, 2014, 16:31 Beamer
 
Vitamins always have overdose warnings. I guess they're poison.

Anyway, water is a poison under this definition:
a substance that is capable of causing the illness or death of a living organism when introduced or absorbed.

Water is capable of killing you. This makes it a poison. Everything can kill you if ingested in too heavy an amount.



Whatever, you keep avoiding fluoride, your dentist will appreciate the additional fees he collects from you. I mean, given that we actually have empirical proof that there's a higher tooth decay rate in municipalities without fluoridated water than with fluoridated water.
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Out of the Blue
17. Re: Out of the Blue May 20, 2014, 14:29 Beamer
 
DukeFNukem wrote on May 20, 2014, 14:26:
h2o is poisonous huh? Thanks, I didn't realize that either. So fluoride good for increasing my IQ. h2o poisonous to the body. Got it. Hey, thanks guys. *cough, cough*. I appreciate it.

Ok, we may have to go from "that post is idiotic" to "that poster is so horribly misinformed that no one should read what he says."

Yes, water is poisonous. Don't you remember that woman who died a few years ago chugging water to win a car from a radio station? Here's a Wikipedia article on how, exactly, water kills you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

The key quote:
Water, just like any other substance, can be considered a poison when over-consumed in a specific period of time. Water intoxication mostly occurs when water is being consumed in a high quantity without giving the body the proper nutrients it needs to be healthy.

 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Morning Consolidation
11. Re: Morning Consolidation May 20, 2014, 13:44 Beamer
 
SpectralMeat wrote on May 20, 2014, 13:34:
Beamer wrote on May 20, 2014, 13:27:
What we lost is any potential for the Kinect to do something useful.

Now, what we can debate is how much potential existed. I'm going with "next to none." I'm guessing most people here think it was actually none, but I think we need to give it the benefit of the doubt and say it shifted from 1,000,000:1 to something more akin to infinity:1.
There was some benefits but not for the Blues News crowd for sure. My kids love to play some Kinect games and it is always fun for them when friends come over.
Problem is the Xbox is not a console for the kids, it is aimed towards the adults, so I am having a hard time justifying the cost when you can get a Nintendo console with similar functionality a shit ton of kids games and the console is much cheaper.

I had a free Kinect for the 360. Kinect Adventures was fun for a game night or two. Dance Central lasted longer, though it was impossible to use their damn menu system - it would take longer to get into a game mode than to play.

These things make for great adult party games, with non-gamers really liking it. But this was true for the Wii, too. How long does that last? A few nights? And then what? And how many new ideas could have come forward with the new, more powerful Kinect? We had dancing, we had a few party games, would anything monumentally different come out that would get those non-gaming friends interested in trying again?

I still haven't seen anyone announce anything that makes me think "yes."
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
News Comments > Out of the Blue
15. Re: Out of the Blue May 20, 2014, 13:31 Beamer
 
nin wrote on May 20, 2014, 13:26:
DukeFNukem wrote on May 20, 2014, 12:21:
Fluoride...it does a brain good. LOL. Oh but wait, it says on my toothpaste to call a poison control center if swallowed? Oh well, the study says it makes me smarter. So it must be.

Do you honestly think the concentration is the same between toothpaste and water?


How insanely stupid. Even water is poisonous, if you have enough of it. The fatal amount of fluoride to a child a 45 pound child (and, remember, the warning on the labels is about children under 6, not adults) is 4 tubes. In fact, in the US, only two children have been seriously injured from fluoride overdoses, and there have been zero fatalities.
 
-------------
Music for the discerning:
http://www.deathwishinc.com
http://www.hydrahead.com
http://www.painkillerrecords.com
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
13002 Comments. 651 pages. Viewing page 22.
< Newer [ 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 ] Older >


footer

.. .. ..

Blue's News logo