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News Comments > etc.
18. Re: etc. Nov 27, 2014, 11:07 Beamer
 
This is weird. So many "I don't care about how they treat their employees if the products still suck" posts.

Duh.

But those two things have nothing to do with each other.
 
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News Comments > Assassinís Creed Unity Free DLC Offered; Season Passes Discontinued
10. Re: Assassinís Creed Unity Free DLC Offered; Season Passes Discontinued Nov 26, 2014, 22:17 Beamer
 
mellis wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 21:02:
nin wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 19:59:

I suspect they're trying to avoid the EA route of getting a class action lawsuit (BF4 last fall). Not that the lawsuit hurt them, but it did get their shareholders attention.

You can bet they're not giving away AAA $60 titles out of the kindness of their hearts.



They're not based in America, so class action isn't really a big concern for them. Litigating a French company would be expensive. It really does look like a genuine gesture to make things right. Can't fault them for that, even if Assassins Creed Unity will still be a bag of crap, patched or not.


You need to brush up on jurisdiction.

And nin is wrong, anyway. The BF4 class action lawsuit wasn't from consumers, it was from shareholders. So it got consumers' attention.

Again, it was NOT consumers suing for a game being buggy. That lawsuit will not go anywhere which is why it does not happen. It was shareholders suing because they said the company kept talking about how great the game was, raising the stock, but the stock then fell because the game wasn't great.

And that lawsuit was tossed out as "puffery." It did them no harm.
 
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News Comments > Far Cry 4 Patch
20. Re: Far Cry 4 Patch Nov 26, 2014, 21:31 Beamer
 
Quinn wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 20:54:
Slick wrote on Nov 24, 2014, 23:39:
i liked this game better when it was called FarCry 3


Finally, someone who sees reason while others call it the fucking Game of the YEAR! Compare Far Cry 4 with Far Cry 3. Now compare Dragon Age: Inquisition with Dragon Age II. Maybe now you see where I'm standing.

It's the same shit as Far Cry 3. Same engine, same gameplay, same models, same animations, same detection meter. Same game. Just a new map, story, weapons, animals and a roflolcopter that obviously blinds people from some objective fact here.

Again: Think Far Cry 3. Think Far Cry 4. Think DA2. Think DA:I.

GOTY. *scoffs* You people singlehandedly proof games like DA:I and (presumably) The Witcher 3 just aren't worth the effort.

Stop being a dink. Absolutely no one is saying "this isn't at all like Far Cry 3."

You use the word "objective." You ignore that half the things you said are "subjective." Like, you know, someone calling it "fucking game of the year."

It's a really fun game. Honestly, people regularly want more of the same. It isn't a big surprise. When a game is really, really good, the first sequel not varying very much is usually not a huge problem. Skyrim was basically the same thing as Oblivion and people loved it. Majora's Mask was basically the same thing as Ocarina of Time and people call it a classic.

It's only bad when it's done repeatedly (like 7 Zeldas over at least 3, if not 4, console generations recycling gameplay and animation) or if it doesn't correctly build on the prior game (Terror from the Deep adding unnecessary, dull complications to UFO Unknown.)

It's just odd that you go with "objective" then decry people making subjective statements. You dislike the game. Seems the common opinion is "this is just like Far Cry 3 but better, and I loved Far Cry 3 so I love this!"

Sorry if you feel left out yet oddly superior.
 
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News Comments > Steam Autumn Sale
56. Re: Steam Autumn Sale Nov 26, 2014, 20:09 Beamer
 
I barely game these days, either. I'll often go months without gaming. Part of it is possibly just that my computer desk is too tall, but most of it is that my current job has me in front of the computer 8 hours a day. I work 10 or 11, but I'm staring at two monitors for 8.

So I spend my free time either reading or going out to bars/restaurants. If I'm home I'll screw around online, but in short bursts. On the west coast, though, the internet tends to die between 8 and 9 as the rest of the country goes to sleep, so the internet gets dull then, anyway.

But man, FC4. Spent so long playing on Saturday afternoon that, when I stopped, my tailbone hurt. It had to be a solid 4 hour go.

Also, if I had a decent laptop that could play XCOM decently I'd probably do more gaming on the couch with something on in the background. I don't watch much TV, but I'd happily veg like that. I don't see much point in buying a decent laptop, though. I need my work one everywhere I travel, so it would be a laptop just for use in my apartment, and my desktop is more powerful and spending $1000 on a new desktop makes more sense than spending that on a laptop.
 
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7. Re: etc. Nov 26, 2014, 17:56 Beamer
 
Orogogus wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 17:42:
Beamer wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 17:26:
Psychopathic?

Right, because that's going to produce a ton of meaningful discussion.
Well, as others have mentioned here in the past, EA has come a long way from EA Wife and has repeatedly earned "Best Places to Work" awards.

But I will just assume most here think those are bought.
 
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5. Re: etc. Nov 26, 2014, 17:26 Beamer
 
WaltC wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 16:56:
Yea, too bad EA has such a hard time understanding what makes a great computer game, though. If the company stopped focusing on meaningless garbage like "LGBT" (& and other bizarre psychopathic human rituals) it might actually make great games regularly instead of on the current "fluke" basis. When EA succeeds (DA 1 & 3), invariably, it is despite itself--despite its best efforts to do the opposite. EA has some competition closing in on its decrepit inanity, however: Ubisoft isn't far behind, and in some instances seems bent on becoming just as idiotic a gaming publisher as EA.

Psychopathic?
 
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News Comments > Steam Autumn Sale
6. Re: Steam Autumn Sale Nov 26, 2014, 14:40 Beamer
 
Great. Now I own Goat Simulator.
Which is the same price as Gods Among Us, which seems like a way better value, but forget playing fighting games on my PC when I have a 58" TV.

Probably will be my only buy. I have too many things to go through. When I finish FC4 I need to go back and finish Wolfenstein on the 360. Then maybe finally do Dragon Age I on the 360, since I own it. Then maybe go back and finish Skyrim on the 360, since I glitched armor and made the game boring my first playthrough and never went back. Then, finally, I think I'm done with my 360 backlog (unless maybe Halo 3.5 and Halo 4, but doubtful.)

Then? Brave new worlds, my friends. I'll essentially be done with the last gen consoles and not yet interested in a new one.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
35. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 26, 2014, 14:37 Beamer
 
The car comparison really weirds me out. Cars are necessary technology for most people - it's the only way they can have employment.

Guns? Very few in this country need a gun to support themselves.

But I also find the whole "anti-gunner" term a weird one.

Anyway, I don't consider myself "anti-gunner." But it seems stupid for someone to argue that you aren't more likely to die by guns if you own a gun. It's like saying you aren't more likely to die by tiger if you own a tiger. Yes, there's a chance I may get killed by a tiger on the loose in downtown Seattle, but it's much more likely that the guy keeping a tiger under his pillow at night will be killed by it. Doesn't mean that tiger will kill him, but being regularly around something makes it more likely that that something will be involved in... something.

But it becomes increasingly hard not to be "anti-gunner" in this environment. The NRA has manipulated the dialogue so strongly for gun manufacturers, even going against things it supported years ago. It, and "gun-nutters" (which is not the same as "gun owners," but keeps in the theme of "anti-gunner") keep going on stupid "slippery slope" bullshit.

Something to remember, because it's used in this board very often: "slippery slope" is usually not a good argument and never a good reason not to do something that makes sense.

No one wants to take your guns away. People want to make it harder for you to get guns if you're the type likely to be irresponsible with a gun. And yes, I know, "but the criminals will just ignore the laws, anyway!" Yes, criminals ignore gun laws. They ignore all laws. This is what makes them criminals. We don't just throw out all of our laws because there are people out there that won't follow them.
 
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News Comments > Morning Tech Bits
15. Re: Morning Tech Bits Nov 25, 2014, 22:44 Beamer
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 21:27:
Beamer wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 20:33:
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 20:23:
Beamer wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 19:40:
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 19:08:
Beamer wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 18:29:
It amazes me how often I find people whining about "nepotism."

I mean, yes, it does happen. But most of what people whine about isn't nepotism. What Cutter said may be. That's rare in true private industry, though. Usually you hire someone that knows someone, this is true. But that isn't nepotism. Nepotism is hiring someone underqualified due to their relations. What usually happens is hiring someone that is perfectly qualified because they know someone. Hiring is hard. Of course they tend to move forward with someone personally vouched for by a good employee. A good amount of the due diligence of hiring is already done.

I've never seen it complained about here, and Cutter's example is pretty bad. But if you ever talk to people from bad law schools unable to find legal work, they all whine about nepotism and cronyism. They blame that for not getting jobs while someone just got his friend hired at his firm. No, that's just how the world works. Of course you'd rather hire an entity known to be qualified than spend time and resources looking for someone that is probably going to be no more qualified.

Getting your friend hired over someone else when both have the same qualifications is EXACTLY what nepotism is What may be OK in your 5 employee sweat-shop, is corruption when we talk about unions or mega-corporations.

Nepotism
the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs.

And how do you think you become executive or ceo at a big company or union? Not by having superior skills, but by being friends with the people that enable you to have that job who think by elevating you there they gain an advantage for THEMSELVES (at least believe so). That is the very definition of corruption. But for obvious reasons our oh so free western world doesn't like thinking or talking about this, because it would show you how corrupt capitalism is to the core. Because human nature coupled with the system in place will always gravitate towards nepotism, and nepotism will always end up fucking everyone else over.

And when we talk about Unions, then you have to ask yourself who is really represented by a leader that got put there by his friends. And not by the WORKERS he represents At least in Germany there are some Unions where members vote, but turnout is exceptionally low. Because many people do not understand what they are voting there. To them all the options are identical, so they vote not at all and let others decide.. it's how we ended up with a 3 unions for 1 company.

Remember, Unions are not to serve nepotism, they are to enable better work conditions and raising wages for it's members. And lots of Unions flat out do not do that anymore. And many work areas flat out prevent Unions from existing.

Mostly wrong.
For one, no one can hire their friends in a major corporation. Why? Two reasons:
1) The hiring process involves multiple people
2) You can rarely recommend someone that would be your direct report, and when you do, usually you are exempt from the interview

It isn't hiring someone that has the same qualifications, it's recommending someone that has the right qualifications. Again, job postings get hundreds of resumes, many of which are perfectly qualified. Sorting through them for someone that's qualified, serious about the position, and a good fit is extremely time consuming.
When someone can say "hey, I have my friend here who is qualified, wants to work here, and is perfect for the job," of course that gets listened to.

This is why every company offers thousands of dollars to recommend your friends. Not because of nepotism, but because it's proven to be the most effective way of hiring.

Here:
Nepotism - "I was just elected mayor, I'm going to assign my best friend to be dog catcher."
Not nepotism - "Hey, I see you have an opening for a marketing specialist. My old college roommate is a marketing specialist that's interested in moving here. He's got 6 years experience in the role, and currently works for XXX Corporation. Here's his resume, take a look, you'll see he fits your needs."

See the huge difference?

Both is nepotism according to it's actual definition. The difference is one of (your) morality

Ps.: I dunno if you are just arguing out of principle.. but may I direct you to read the post before the one you quoted? We talked about Unions too close to corporations, aside you literally nobody made Nepotism a main topic Cutter just gave an example for the corruption that some Unions have fallen for. But nobody was actually complaining about that being Nepotism, we talked about corruption, and what Cutter described is most definitely nepotism, and nepotism no matter in what form, is corruption when it comes down to it.

And aside that, I find it funny you bring up Nepotism in a thread that talks about the lie corporations spread that it doesn't find enough skilled workers Which is sometimes directly supported by Unions.

Aside from Cutters example, which isn't about nepotism but rather corruption... nobody made any remark or indeed "whined" about Nepotism

I'm well aware I made it the main thing. Like I said, it wasn't brought up here, it's just a pet peeve when people think that "you need to know someone / network to get hired" means nepotism. It doesn't. But even you are arguing this.


Nah, my argument is that nepotism is "the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends" I am not arguing whether that is needed to get hired in rank and file jobs, but it is a fact that is how the top tier (executive) jobs are assigned. They not running through the same processes as normal job interviews. And specially managers are not getting a job for their "skills" they are getting a job over their connections.

Your definition being so far apart from the actual meaning (where I come from) of nepotism that it made me argue my point.

Executives are rarely via nepotism, either. I've been on the teams for executive search for one of the largest retail chains in North America. We hire an outside recruiter, because you can't just post "General Manager / CEO - 600 store chain" on Monster.com. You go to a recruiter. The recruiter uses LinkedIn, "About Us" pages on similar companies, and her own network. She brings people in. It isn't tapping Bob who your current CEO has drinks with on the shoulder.

And yes, the new GM will probably bring in one or two of his own people, but at that point you probably have a team you want with you. I'm only middle management and I have a kid I'll lure anywhere I go with huge promotion incentives. It isn't that I'm friends with him, I never even hang out with him outside of work. It's that his skillset and personality work perfectly with mine, I know he's incredibly competent, and I know he trusts me.
 
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News Comments > Morning Tech Bits
13. Re: Morning Tech Bits Nov 25, 2014, 20:33 Beamer
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 20:23:
Beamer wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 19:40:
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 19:08:
Beamer wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 18:29:
It amazes me how often I find people whining about "nepotism."

I mean, yes, it does happen. But most of what people whine about isn't nepotism. What Cutter said may be. That's rare in true private industry, though. Usually you hire someone that knows someone, this is true. But that isn't nepotism. Nepotism is hiring someone underqualified due to their relations. What usually happens is hiring someone that is perfectly qualified because they know someone. Hiring is hard. Of course they tend to move forward with someone personally vouched for by a good employee. A good amount of the due diligence of hiring is already done.

I've never seen it complained about here, and Cutter's example is pretty bad. But if you ever talk to people from bad law schools unable to find legal work, they all whine about nepotism and cronyism. They blame that for not getting jobs while someone just got his friend hired at his firm. No, that's just how the world works. Of course you'd rather hire an entity known to be qualified than spend time and resources looking for someone that is probably going to be no more qualified.

Getting your friend hired over someone else when both have the same qualifications is EXACTLY what nepotism is What may be OK in your 5 employee sweat-shop, is corruption when we talk about unions or mega-corporations.

Nepotism
the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs.

And how do you think you become executive or ceo at a big company or union? Not by having superior skills, but by being friends with the people that enable you to have that job who think by elevating you there they gain an advantage for THEMSELVES (at least believe so). That is the very definition of corruption. But for obvious reasons our oh so free western world doesn't like thinking or talking about this, because it would show you how corrupt capitalism is to the core. Because human nature coupled with the system in place will always gravitate towards nepotism, and nepotism will always end up fucking everyone else over.

And when we talk about Unions, then you have to ask yourself who is really represented by a leader that got put there by his friends. And not by the WORKERS he represents At least in Germany there are some Unions where members vote, but turnout is exceptionally low. Because many people do not understand what they are voting there. To them all the options are identical, so they vote not at all and let others decide.. it's how we ended up with a 3 unions for 1 company.

Remember, Unions are not to serve nepotism, they are to enable better work conditions and raising wages for it's members. And lots of Unions flat out do not do that anymore. And many work areas flat out prevent Unions from existing.

Mostly wrong.
For one, no one can hire their friends in a major corporation. Why? Two reasons:
1) The hiring process involves multiple people
2) You can rarely recommend someone that would be your direct report, and when you do, usually you are exempt from the interview

It isn't hiring someone that has the same qualifications, it's recommending someone that has the right qualifications. Again, job postings get hundreds of resumes, many of which are perfectly qualified. Sorting through them for someone that's qualified, serious about the position, and a good fit is extremely time consuming.
When someone can say "hey, I have my friend here who is qualified, wants to work here, and is perfect for the job," of course that gets listened to.

This is why every company offers thousands of dollars to recommend your friends. Not because of nepotism, but because it's proven to be the most effective way of hiring.

Here:
Nepotism - "I was just elected mayor, I'm going to assign my best friend to be dog catcher."
Not nepotism - "Hey, I see you have an opening for a marketing specialist. My old college roommate is a marketing specialist that's interested in moving here. He's got 6 years experience in the role, and currently works for XXX Corporation. Here's his resume, take a look, you'll see he fits your needs."

See the huge difference?

Both is nepotism according to it's actual definition. The difference is one of (your) morality

Ps.: I dunno if you are just arguing out of principle.. but may I direct you to read the post before the one you quoted? We talked about Unions too close to corporations, aside you literally nobody made Nepotism a main topic Cutter just gave an example for the corruption that some Unions have fallen for. But nobody was actually complaining about that being Nepotism, we talked about corruption, and what Cutter described is most definitely nepotism, and nepotism no matter in what form, is corruption when it comes down to it.

And aside that, I find it funny you bring up Nepotism in a thread that talks about the lie corporations spread that it doesn't find enough skilled workers Which is sometimes directly supported by Unions.

Aside from Cutters example, which isn't about nepotism but rather corruption... nobody made any remark or indeed "whined" about Nepotism

I'm well aware I made it the main thing. Like I said, it wasn't brought up here, it's just a pet peeve when people think that "you need to know someone / network to get hired" means nepotism. It doesn't. But even you are arguing this.

 
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News Comments > Morning Tech Bits
11. Re: Morning Tech Bits Nov 25, 2014, 19:40 Beamer
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 19:08:
Beamer wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 18:29:
It amazes me how often I find people whining about "nepotism."

I mean, yes, it does happen. But most of what people whine about isn't nepotism. What Cutter said may be. That's rare in true private industry, though. Usually you hire someone that knows someone, this is true. But that isn't nepotism. Nepotism is hiring someone underqualified due to their relations. What usually happens is hiring someone that is perfectly qualified because they know someone. Hiring is hard. Of course they tend to move forward with someone personally vouched for by a good employee. A good amount of the due diligence of hiring is already done.

I've never seen it complained about here, and Cutter's example is pretty bad. But if you ever talk to people from bad law schools unable to find legal work, they all whine about nepotism and cronyism. They blame that for not getting jobs while someone just got his friend hired at his firm. No, that's just how the world works. Of course you'd rather hire an entity known to be qualified than spend time and resources looking for someone that is probably going to be no more qualified.

Getting your friend hired over someone else when both have the same qualifications is EXACTLY what nepotism is What may be OK in your 5 employee sweat-shop, is corruption when we talk about unions or mega-corporations.

Nepotism
the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs.

And how do you think you become executive or ceo at a big company or union? Not by having superior skills, but by being friends with the people that enable you to have that job who think by elevating you there they gain an advantage for THEMSELVES (at least believe so). That is the very definition of corruption. But for obvious reasons our oh so free western world doesn't like thinking or talking about this, because it would show you how corrupt capitalism is to the core. Because human nature coupled with the system in place will always gravitate towards nepotism, and nepotism will always end up fucking everyone else over.

And when we talk about Unions, then you have to ask yourself who is really represented by a leader that got put there by his friends. And not by the WORKERS he represents At least in Germany there are some Unions where members vote, but turnout is exceptionally low. Because many people do not understand what they are voting there. To them all the options are identical, so they vote not at all and let others decide.. it's how we ended up with a 3 unions for 1 company.

Remember, Unions are not to serve nepotism, they are to enable better work conditions and raising wages for it's members. And lots of Unions flat out do not do that anymore. And many work areas flat out prevent Unions from existing.

Mostly wrong.
For one, no one can hire their friends in a major corporation. Why? Two reasons:
1) The hiring process involves multiple people
2) You can rarely recommend someone that would be your direct report, and when you do, usually you are exempt from the interview

It isn't hiring someone that has the same qualifications, it's recommending someone that has the right qualifications. Again, job postings get hundreds of resumes, many of which are perfectly qualified. Sorting through them for someone that's qualified, serious about the position, and a good fit is extremely time consuming.
When someone can say "hey, I have my friend here who is qualified, wants to work here, and is perfect for the job," of course that gets listened to.

This is why every company offers thousands of dollars to recommend your friends. Not because of nepotism, but because it's proven to be the most effective way of hiring.

Here:
Nepotism - "I was just elected mayor, I'm going to assign my best friend to be dog catcher."
Not nepotism - "Hey, I see you have an opening for a marketing specialist. My old college roommate is a marketing specialist that's interested in moving here. He's got 6 years experience in the role, and currently works for XXX Corporation. Here's his resume, take a look, you'll see he fits your needs."

See the huge difference?
 
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News Comments > Morning Mobilization
8. Re: Morning Mobilization Nov 25, 2014, 19:35 Beamer
 
Porn-O-Matic wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 19:11:
Who cares about a mobile game? This is why I still play GTA 4. I wrote my own mod for the game that gives me cash every time I beat a fag to death with the baseball bat. LOL!!! (I still get money for shooting them, but not as much, unless it's a head shot.) The baseball bat is so much more satisfying anyway...

You're a charming individual that's a boon to any community you join.
 
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9. Re: Morning Tech Bits Nov 25, 2014, 18:29 Beamer
 
It amazes me how often I find people whining about "nepotism."

I mean, yes, it does happen. But most of what people whine about isn't nepotism. What Cutter said may be. That's rare in true private industry, though. Usually you hire someone that knows someone, this is true. But that isn't nepotism. Nepotism is hiring someone underqualified due to their relations. What usually happens is hiring someone that is perfectly qualified because they know someone. Hiring is hard. Of course they tend to move forward with someone personally vouched for by a good employee. A good amount of the due diligence of hiring is already done.

I've never seen it complained about here, and Cutter's example is pretty bad. But if you ever talk to people from bad law schools unable to find legal work, they all whine about nepotism and cronyism. They blame that for not getting jobs while someone just got his friend hired at his firm. No, that's just how the world works. Of course you'd rather hire an entity known to be qualified than spend time and resources looking for someone that is probably going to be no more qualified.
 
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4. Re: Morning Consolidation Nov 25, 2014, 11:25 Beamer
 
nin wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 11:17:
SpectralMeat wrote on Nov 25, 2014, 11:15:
It's not like this is their first Halo game they release.
I don't understand how an established dev studio like this can be so incompetent.

A lot of shit got pushed out to meet release dates. AC, Driveclub, Halo. I would expect similar issues with Teh Crew as well...


It doesn't sound like that was the issue with AC. The complaints about AC seem less about bugs, though they're there (and look hysterical), and more about the gameplay just being dull. In other words, design decisions. Sure, that is a function of release date, but not of being pushed out the door. They intentionally had a reduced feature set in order to make a game for an entirely new platform/engine in a shortened window. All the polish in the world couldn't save it.

Halo, Driveclub, FC4, all have polish errors that are just due to not having another 6 weeks of dev time.
 
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9. Re: Far Cry 4 Patch Nov 25, 2014, 01:36 Beamer
 
Slick wrote on Nov 24, 2014, 23:39:
i liked this game better when it was called FarCry 3


Sounds like someone hasn't experienced the joys of hunting rhino from a gyrocopter. The first sign is overturned cars. You follow that path of destruction to the rhinos. You'll throw some grenades at them, but not take them out, so you'll try to get low to finish them off with your sidearm. Rookie mistake. The gyrocopter isn't the most precise mode of transportation, so after smacking into a tree you bounce low enough for the rhino to knock you out of the air.
 
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7. Re: Far Cry 4 Patch Nov 24, 2014, 23:32 Beamer
 
Helpful thing I learned today - if you hit a mask with a mortar, it counts as collecting it.  
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30. Re: Gatherings & Competitions Nov 24, 2014, 18:35 Beamer
 
I haven't seen an single person "demand" they kick him out.

But it's really nice that some jackass is defending the right to tell people you're going to rape them without being kicked out of Starcraft games.

This guy has the most insane, juvenile, privileged, and dumb priorities.
 
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23. Re: Gatherings & Competitions Nov 24, 2014, 17:14 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 24, 2014, 17:11:
Beamer wrote on Nov 24, 2014, 16:15:
kind of like grapefruit and peanut butter.

You say that like it's a bad thing.


I almost went steak and peanut butter, but I've had that (sort of) and it wasn't half bad (also sort of.)
 
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20. Re: Gatherings & Competitions Nov 24, 2014, 17:02 Beamer
 
And I apologize, I know it's over the line, it's just amazing to me that someone is using "principled stand," "speech police," and making slippery slope and misguided freedom of speech arguments over a Starcraft tournament kicking a guy out for sending a Tweet to a female competitor that he was going to rape her.

This is what our society is now - men desperately afraid that their "right" to tell women they're going to rape them without fear of being kicked out of a video game tournament will disappear.
 
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19. Re: Gatherings & Competitions Nov 24, 2014, 16:56 Beamer
 
Yeahyeah Yeah wrote on Nov 24, 2014, 16:40:
Maybe I would, and maybe I wouldn't. Maybe I'd take a principled stand.

Principled stand?
Jesus. Jesus. Seriously. A principled stand against someone threatening to rape. This isn't someone being asked to sit in the back of the bus, this is someone making a rape comment.

If you ran a business, would you pull down posters celebrating feminism or decrying sexism if some of your customers said they felt uncomfortable?

So promoting equality is the same as threatening to rape.
Principled stand, dude.

Maybe you should look it up, since you apparently are unaware of what a fallacy is.

Uh... que?
If 'X is going to destroy you' in the context of an FPS game makes you shudder and cry, I'm likely going to tell you to relax.

That is NOT what it said. Now you're making nice strawmen. Yet somehow I'm the one that doesn't know what a fallacy is.

Do you remember the part where I said that just because I disagree doesn't mean I'd force them to change?

I never said you were forcing them to change, I said you didn't like what they did. You dislike it. No one is asking this guy to not play Starcraft, they're telling him he can't in their tournament. No one is asking you to leave BluesNews, they're putting you on ignore.

Like I said, Beamer - you seem to have a problem telling the difference between 'I disagree' and 'I want to force you to change'.

Sounds like Gamergate.


Yes, it is speech policing. It doesn't magically become something else just because you like the instance of it. Some speech policing is good. Sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's grey area.

Wait, didn't you say you're against speech policing? But sometimes it's good?

Keep on truckin', True Believer.

I don't even understand what pronoun "True Believer" is supposed to mean, but fuck, it's coming from a guy that says he wants to take a "principled stand" to defend some guy's right to stay in a Starcraft tournament despite telling a female competitor he was going to rape her.
Your own words, "principled stand" sounds like some kind of "True Believer" bullshit.

It's nice, though, that I know I can call you a complete moron without you hitting that "report" button, because that would be speech policing.
 
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