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News Comments > MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed
89. Re: MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed Sep 15, 2014, 17:44 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 17:29:
For the record Cutter said this is one of the most idiotic business moves he has ever seen by a company (paraphrasing), and I am inclined to agree. This is beyond ridiculous - it's just obscenely and surreally absurd. He also made mention of "Ballmer Junior" making the same retarded decisions as his "daddy".

Facebook paid about $32 per active user of Whatsapp, a product with 0 revenue.
Microsoft paid about $50 per active user of Minecraft, a product with significant revenue.

There are a few big differences:
1) One is a messaging platform, and those tend to be longer lived than games
2) The other has a more affluent userbase, meaning it's more willing to invest money

Microsoft claims this deal will pay for itself by the end of 2015. I don't doubt that much. Minecraft made $350 million last year, and from what I understand the bulk of that was made later in the year and came from server rentals. On top of this, Minecraft revenue has grown each year.
And Mojang has made no attempt to monetize.

I know that "monetization" is a dirty word, but frankly, there's so much room here. I installed Minecraft again on Saturday and looked for mods. If you google "minecraft mods" you get dozens of hits, but most of the pages look like they'll install viruses. The programs you have to download have installers that look like viruses, and they download from sites that try to install their own downloader that is almost definitely a virus.

Basically, I'm assuming any casual Minecraft fan has tons of viruses.

But look at Valve. Seriously, look hard at Valve. They are making money hand over fist selling mods for 3 games. They also have free mods for those games. The community is making enormous money selling these mods. I rarely hear loud complaints about these sales, usually people just seem to enjoy it. It's fostered a big community. Hell, I actually know a guy here that worked at a major studio on a major series discussed here regularly that quit his job and moved across the country because he realized he could more than double his income selling DOTA2 stuff.

This would be great for Minecraft. A consolidated storefront with no worry about viruses, making it easier to find and load mods, and still with the majority of things being free, but not everything.
If Minecraft brought in $350 last year, it isn't hard to imagine a mod marketplace similar to the Hat Marketplace could triple that, is it?

We'll see if it's stupid. Frankly, I don't think we'll truly know that it was. Either this is a huge success, or Microsoft fucks it up. But the price wouldn't be stupid if they fuck it up, it's their management.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
31. Re: So why do publishers keep doing it? Sep 15, 2014, 16:58 Beamer
 
mag wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 16:55:
Creston wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 16:36:
UHD wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 16:04:
so which is it?

I am always right. Cutter isn't. This is an important detail to remember.

Not that it really matters, at this point it's personal curiosity, but to be honest it's more interesting than gamergate.

True.

Cutter is probably consider a larger group of regulars than I am. Most of the guys who have been here the longest are pre Gen X, but then again, since Blue was formed in... what... 1998? they would have to be, since I doubt many five year olds were posting here when it first started.

Gen X is ~1960 to ~1980. The youngest Gen Xers were 18 in 1998. Millenials are ~1980 to 2000. The oldest Millenials are in their thirties now.

/31-year-old Millenial.

And it's far from being the first named generation, as implied below. Obviously we had the Baby Boomers, but also the Silent Generation, Greatest Generation and Lost Generation.
 
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News Comments > MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed
82. Re: MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed Sep 15, 2014, 16:54 Beamer
 
BobBob wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 16:49:
Beamer wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 15:31:
Guys, I don't think Cutter thinks much of this, but I'm not sure.

Do you have a collection of Cutter posts hanging on your dimly lit basement walls?

You know that, if you click on someone's name, it gives you their posts in descending order by date. When someone has 4 posts in their past 30 about a topic, it's easy to cull together.

You can also enter a term and sort. Sadly, you can't link to a saved search.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
29. Re: So why do publishers keep doing it? Sep 15, 2014, 16:40 Beamer
 
Creston wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 16:33:
Beamer wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 15:55:
There's no industry where customers hate the workers so much, either.

Hmm, I'd doubt that. How much love do you think the car industry is getting these days, especially the likes of GM with its 30+ million recalls in 2014? I doubt people are singing their praises, but at least GM doesn't publish articles entitled "ALL MY FUCKING CUSTOMERS ARE PIECES OF SHIT!"

Again, Notch actually cites in his "Why I am Leaving Minecraft" letter the hate that he got on Twitter for something that didn't even happen.

Notch can do whatever he wants to do. The guy made out like the biggest fucking bandit ever, so good for him, but I wonder why all these delicate snowflakes hang out on the social media equivalent of the bottom of the cesspool if they get upset over what's being put on it.

Hint, Twitter Users: You don't have to use it. It's not mandatory. Your life will remain literally exactly the same if you just stop using it.

Has anyone emailed any random engineers of GM and told them to die in a fire? I mean, their customers have actually died in fires, but I don't think that they're getting that kind of hatemail. More to the point, I don't think they're getting that kind of hatemail for simple things like deciding the door lock switches should be matte instead of chrome, let alone for, you know, causing people to actually die in fires.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
24. Re: So why do publishers keep doing it? Sep 15, 2014, 15:55 Beamer
 
Creston wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 15:00:
Because FUCK YOU, that's why.

Seriously, how does anyone not understand this fairly simple concept yet? There is no industry which hates its customers more than the games industry, unless being a crackwhore can be called an industry.

You are a wallet to a games publisher, not a customer. Every penny they can beg, plead, cajole, steal or plain blackmail out of you is bonus.

There's no industry where customers hate the workers so much, either.

Again, Notch actually cites in his "Why I am Leaving Minecraft" letter the hate that he got on Twitter for something that didn't even happen.
 
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News Comments > MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed
76. Re: MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed Sep 15, 2014, 15:31 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 15:15:
MS will trash this like they do everything else. What a waste of money.

Cutter wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 11:13:
I don't know if this is the dumbest deal in modern history but it's certainly a strong contender. Reminds me of the Dumb song from South Park's Mormon episode.


Cutter wrote on Sep 14, 2014, 17:37:
In my 40+ years on this planet I've seen some really dumb shit, but this is actually literally up there as one of the dumbest I've ever seen. Welp, there you go MS investors. Kiss 2.5 billion away that you should have demanded as dividends instead. I'm sure as this further erodes your stock value you can thank Ballmer Jr., er Nutella for that.


Cutter wrote on Sep 14, 2014, 17:35:
There ya go, Notch was human all along. Just another flawed hypocrite like the rest of us. There are some people throughout history who never caved, but you can most of those in the hundreds. Which is pretty sad when you measure it against the billions of us who have existed.

Shit man, I'd easily sell out for that sort of bank. Then again, I never pretended I wouldn't like he did either.

Guys, I don't think Cutter thinks much of this, but I'm not sure.
 
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News Comments > MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed
75. Re: MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed Sep 15, 2014, 15:28 Beamer
 
BobBob wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 14:43:
Beamer wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 14:16:
The big difference is that the PayPal team were entrepreneurs looking to be important and looking to be rich. Notch is looking to just be a quiet guy that works on his hobbies.

He now has an enormous amount of money in which to do that, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him to something with it, but I think he'll be quietly funding from a distance.

Quietly funding innovative start-ups should provide the same results - helping people, creating new companies and creating new jobs.

Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel#Angel_investor_and_venture_capitalist

I still think that's not far enough removed. I think he'd start a VC, but not run it. Just fund it. In other words, fund the ones funding. I don't think he wants to even be in the decision making process.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
12. Re: Out of the Blue Sep 15, 2014, 14:40 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 14:32:
Was out in the sun all day yesterday. Had on a hat and long sleeved shirt, and put on sunscreen in the morning, but forgot to reapply at lunch. Tops of hands are a bit seared today.

Could be worse. I had on a striped shirt yesterday. The white stripes let sun through, the dark stripes did not.

My shoulders now have a very nice burn pattern.
 
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News Comments > MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed
63. Re: MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed Sep 15, 2014, 14:16 Beamer
 
BobBob wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 14:13:
Consider following the footsteps of the founding PayPal team: take the money, create new companies and new jobs; innovate to help people.

The big difference is that the PayPal team were entrepreneurs looking to be important and looking to be rich. Notch is looking to just be a quiet guy that works on his hobbies.

He now has an enormous amount of money in which to do that, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him to something with it, but I think he'll be quietly funding from a distance.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
18. Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 14:04 Beamer
 
Also, if the complaint is that there's no ethics in game journalism and it's tainted, why is there so much talk of "SJWs?" Most being mentioned aren't in the media, and games journalism ethics deals more with how they choose to cover companies and what perks they get, not what editorials they do.

Again, it rings very hollow. All this "SJW" talk is about women, not about journalism, since so many singled out are not in any way, shape or form involved in games journalism.

It's so weird that people think this is about ethics in journalism when very few comments are even tangentially related to it. I mean, hell, ASeven just linked to some lengthy image (STOP WITH THE LENGTHY IMAGES FOR GODSSAKE!) about feminism. Yet #gamergate is about journalism, not vaginas, right? Right?!
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
17. Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 14:02 Beamer
 
ASeven wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 12:34:
Here's a friendly reminder about the differences between SJW "feminists" and real feminists.

This loses by having the very first "real feminist" it mentions being a woman famous for writing a book about how feminism hurts men.

Seriously. Stop putting fucking "real" in front of things that agree with you. "Real gamers" do this. "Real fans" do that.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
16. Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 14:01 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 12:01:
Beamer wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 11:18:

There's outrage now over something more minor, and the outrage is rarely very far from words about some woman's sexuality, which is why people argue. The anti gamers-gate aren't people that say "Video game 'journalism' is without problems" it's people saying "seriously, all your whining about journalism seems to be masking something else."

Why else would Anita Sarkeesian be so heavily mentioned? She's not a journalist.
Yep that's why anita went right off the bat making it about sexuality, femnism, and going right out into la-la land to make shit up to suit their agenda.

If #gamergate is just about journalism, why is Anita even factoring in? Why are people addressing her at all? She's not a journalist.
 
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News Comments > MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed
55. Re: MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed Sep 15, 2014, 13:37 Beamer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 13:33:
jdreyer wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 13:23:
They probably have a no compete for a "block based building game" or something, but it sounds like they're not even interested in doing that.
Not that you were saying otherwise, but why would they? Kind of, "been there, done that" territory...

Regardless, Notch says that anything he does that even has a possibility of getting big will be abandoned immediately.

Seems he really has no interest in ever being in the spotlight again.
 
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News Comments > MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed
44. Re: MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed Sep 15, 2014, 12:49 Beamer
 
MindStalker3 wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 12:45:
ItBurn wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 10:24:
"There’s no reason for the development, sales, and support of the PC/Mac......versions of Minecraft to stop"
What? There are MANY reasons to stop the development if Microsoft owns it. There's no way Microsoft would release a game for PS3-4... Explain this to me.

The "game" can and will never recoup the 2.5Billion spent. Buying Minecraft is all about buying the IP and possibly the ecosystem. First comes the marketing, Minecraft Movie, Minecraft plushies, etc, etc all of which will make tons of money. Then comes the ecosystem, no more lauchers, it will be Microsoft's store that you buy or obtain skin packs, maps, mods, etc. They don't care if your running on Apple or PS4, its their game and Microsoft will make a cut from every skin pack bought. Most likely they will make a cut from all the Minecraft videos on youtube as well. The ecosystem is huge, they would be hurting themselves to limit it.


All that out-of-game stuff exists.

But you're right about the store. There's no good argument for why TF2, DOTA2 and CS:GO successfully have a huge store, and for at least two of those games modding, and Minecraft can't. If Microsoft emulates what Valve has done, I don't think the community would be up in arms. The people that make the mods decide what is free and what isn't and take a chunk of the profits themselves.

 
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News Comments > MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed
37. Re: MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed Sep 15, 2014, 12:11 Beamer
 
Flatline wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 11:29:
Beamer wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 11:03:
Interesting, what Notch is basically saying is that, when the Minecraft EULA thing came out, people were dicks to him. Then he watched the Phil Fish video and saw how much they love being dicks to Phil Fish (who is, himself, a dick.)

So he sold his studio.


I get it, it's fair. Minecraft became bigger than Notch, and with that happening, it made Notch bigger than Notch feels Notch is. But getting $2.5 billion dollars won't change that. If Microsoft fucks things up, Notch will be blamed. If Notch makes some small shitty game he enjoys making but few enjoy playing (because it's the kind of small, shitty game he enjoyed making), people will call him an idiot on Twitter. That spotlight is on him for an extremely long time.

If Notch is the majority shareholder I guess he got close to a billion dollars from the deal.

With that kind of money he could completely change his identity, buy a private staffed island, run fiber out to it from wherever, and still have like half a billion dollars left over to live on while he just... did stuff.

I think he'll survive if MS fucks this one up.

More accurate - he can now fund Psychonauts 2 without worrying.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
8. Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 11:32 Beamer
 
Actually, getting into it, there are many reasons why this doesn't feel like it's truly about journalism.

1) Frankly, the ethics that brought this up seem trivial compared to plenty of other things brought up previously

2) And, the discussion is rarely about the ethics. Hell, nearly everyone here on Blues claiming to be done with Kotaku or RPS aren't done because they feel it's doing underhanded reviews, but because it's done articles about females in gaming

3) And then you have people like Julio, who gleefully make never ending references to "burgers and fries," which would imply that he's not very interested in anything beyond a woman having sex

4) What happened to those men that had sex? Zoe's name keeps figuring in, giving her infinitely more press than she's had before, but what about the other guys? Can anyone even name more than 3 sites she had sex with without looking it up?

5) Then look at two of the people leading the charge of #gamersgate and getting so much support:
Adam Baldwin, who I doubt has ever read a video game review or been to a video game site, but has plenty of tweets about how feminism is awful, &
Milo from Breitbart, who actually said he finds the idea of any grown man playing video games sad, yet has also led plenty of discussions on how awful feminism is
These to keep taking the lead on how bad games journalism is, but have no history of giving a shit about gamers (again, Milo wrote an article over the summer saying all adults playing games are pathetic, not even referencing some vague "gamer" culture), and have a long history of hating feminism.


But yes, it's absolutely about journalism in an industry based around getting you to buy consumer products.
I get that, for some people here, that's what it is about. But it didn't start that way, and certainly isn't for everyone. Even ASeven, who has certainly led the charge here (if you can call endless MSPaint images that are about as easy to follow as a Dr. Bronner's label "leading") started with endless posts about what a hypocrite Zoe Quinn was for all her "feminism" before slowly turning it into complaints about journalism.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
6. Re: Op Ed Sep 15, 2014, 11:18 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 15, 2014, 10:48:
Former journalist speaks out on corruption "in gaming journalism" Yet another ex-gaming journalist speaks out on corruption.

One thing I've noticed in all of this is that the vast majority against GG are millennials. Who take whatever is dropped in front of them as the gospel truth. This is especially true of the third wave feminism, and current round of sjw's who seem to have leadership that goes off and on with the belief that those following only need to "listen and believe." Strange, we used to call those cults.

The vast majority for it are millenials, too. For godssake it's about games. Who is most obsessive about games?

Young people!

And no one denies that there's an issue with game journalism. I posted a link a ways back about a GamePro article describing all the awesome bullshit they got to preview Black Ops, including helicopter rides in Hawaii.
But there was no outrage then.

There's outrage now over something more minor, and the outrage is rarely very far from words about some woman's sexuality, which is why people argue. The anti gamers-gate aren't people that say "Video game 'journalism' is without problems" it's people saying "seriously, all your whining about journalism seems to be masking something else."

Why else would Anita Sarkeesian be so heavily mentioned? She's not a journalist.
 
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News Comments > MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed
18. Re: MS/Mojang $2.5B Deal Confirmed Sep 15, 2014, 11:03 Beamer
 
Interesting, what Notch is basically saying is that, when the Minecraft EULA thing came out, people were dicks to him. Then he watched the Phil Fish video and saw how much they love being dicks to Phil Fish (who is, himself, a dick.)

So he sold his studio.


I get it, it's fair. Minecraft became bigger than Notch, and with that happening, it made Notch bigger than Notch feels Notch is. But getting $2.5 billion dollars won't change that. If Microsoft fucks things up, Notch will be blamed. If Notch makes some small shitty game he enjoys making but few enjoy playing (because it's the kind of small, shitty game he enjoyed making), people will call him an idiot on Twitter. That spotlight is on him for an extremely long time.
 
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News Comments > MS to Reveal $2.5B Mojang Deal Tomorrow?
24. Re: MS to Reveal $2.5B Mojang Deal Tomorrow? Sep 14, 2014, 13:15 Beamer
 
This isn't for Xbox, this is for Windows.


Anyway, it inspired me to reinstall it. Maybe I'll play with mods this time. Map mod? Done! Any suggestions for mods?
 
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