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News Comments > Valve Apologizes as Hatred Greenlight Campaign Returns
52. Re: Valve Apologizes as Hatred Greenlight Campaign Returns Dec 17, 2014, 12:18 Beamer
Creston wrote on Dec 17, 2014, 12:16:

That said, this will be the new pissing boy for everyone with an axe to bear against gaming in general.

Which is really the primary (only?) argument I've had against this game. The value it adds isn't worth the shitstorm it'll bring. Which doesn't mean I don't think the devs should be allowed to make it, it just means I think they're a bunch of assholes ruining everything for everyone else without really adding anything meaningful or interesting. At least the prior whipping boys like MK and GTA did that.
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News Comments > Valve Apologizes as Hatred Greenlight Campaign Returns
51. Re: Valve Apologizes as Hatred Greenlight Campaign Returns Dec 17, 2014, 12:17 Beamer
Zyrxil wrote on Dec 17, 2014, 11:19:
There is no difference in the amount of violence in this game compared to any other shooter being published today. The only notable part is that it is presented in as tasteless a manner as possible for shock value.

But if games are art, doesn't context matter?
And if context is meaningless, how can you claim games are art?
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News Comments > Valve Apologizes as Hatred Greenlight Campaign Returns
30. Re: Valve Apologizes as Hatred Greenlight Campaign Returns Dec 17, 2014, 10:32 Beamer
Julio wrote on Dec 17, 2014, 09:30:
Valve has taken the right approach on this, if they wanted to censor games they'd also have to take down GTA. And they wouldn't want to have to do that.

God. Video gamers are so obsessed with "censoring" and "freedom" today with no clue what it means.

Valve saying "we will not publish this" is NOT censorship.
Valve putting it on steam but changing all the people to aliens would be. Or making blood green. Or forbidding anyone from making the game.
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News Comments > Evening Metaverse
4. Re: Evening Metaverse Dec 17, 2014, 00:29 Beamer
On the plus side, Comcast just doubled the speeds of all their internet tiers here. I went from getting 55mps to 126mbps. Up is still 11mbps.

I'll very happily take it.
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
2. Re: Evening Tech Bits Dec 16, 2014, 23:32 Beamer
I refer to Echo as my Pringles alarm clock.  
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News Comments > Into the Black
9. Re: Into the Black Dec 16, 2014, 23:15 Beamer
jdreyer wrote on Dec 16, 2014, 00:38:
Cutter wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 21:41:
Well good thing they're only speaking for Wired, and not the rest of us.

Yeah, true, but I agree with them. What was the last good R Scott movie? American Gangster? And before that, Kingdom of Heaven (director's cut, of course). When was the last time he had two in a row? 15 years ago?

I'm going with Gladiator, honestly, though I didn't see either you mentioned. Didn't look worth the run time.
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News Comments > Hatred Gets Steam Redlight
24. Re: Hatred Gets Steam Redlight Dec 15, 2014, 23:08 Beamer
Sepharo wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 23:05:
Nobody in here mentioned a Freedom of Speech issue except the people who came in here to disabuse the thread of a misconception that didn't happen. Sigh.

Of course Valve has the right to ban whatever it wants from its store but that doesn't mean we have to be happy with it. I would have hoped that Valve would stay far away from playing moral police with creative work. It's also very hypocritical to continue selling Postal 1, 2, and 3 while banning this. Total can of worms here and a foot in the door for crusader groups against violent video games.

Note that, in Valve's statement, they say they will not publish this game.
They do not publish Postal 1, 2 or 3.

They are also not "banning" this. They're simply opting not to publish it. Choosing not to publish something is neither censorship nor banning.

It's just choosing not to be a part of something. And it's a business decision. Valve isn't trying to "protect" us, they're just looking at this as more trouble than it's worth and not worth having their name in any way attached to.
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News Comments > Hatred Greenlight Campaign
21. Re: Hatred Greenlight Campaign Dec 15, 2014, 21:32 Beamer
HorrorScope wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 20:53:
Squirmer wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 20:34:
HorrorScope wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 20:07:
I sort of like the way it looks. It isn't real, keep telling yourself that because it is true. I'm anti-real machine gun/tanks for citizens, but have no problems devastating pixels. Not sure why Steam wouldn't carry it. Do they not understand what they sell isn't real?
Doesn't matter if it's not "real". If someone made a film about a guy who runs around killing Jews because he hates Jews, and the film celebrates his hatred, it would not be picked up by any respectable distributor. But would you say it's totally fine because it's just a film and not real?

Is the game going around killing jews only? What specific group are they targeting in hatred or just everyone?

I will modify my thought though, Valve has the total right to not carry it. But the makers of the game have every right to make it and distribute it however they can. Fair enough.

I haven't seen a single person say they don't have the right to make the game.
Everyone is just saying they seem like a bunch of assholes making a shitty game that's basically clickbait in gameplay form.
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News Comments > Hatred Gets Steam Redlight
10. Re: Hatred Gets Steam Redlight Dec 15, 2014, 21:31 Beamer
Seriously. Does the "FREEDOM!" brigade understand that forcing Valve to sell this infringes on Valve's freedom?

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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
11. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 15, 2014, 20:24 Beamer
Redmask wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 20:19:
No, I think I would rather try to educate someone rather than have them live with such a misinformed view. If the time is wasted then whatever, its mine to do with as I please.

LittleMe, the steel wouldn't need to burn, it would just need to be hot enough and under enough stress to warp. Jet fuel burns at up to 1500 degrees, more than enough to cause deformation in steel supports. Why? They are carrying the weight of a massive building and are being super heated, even below their melting point of 2750 degrees they will still warp, buckle and in the case of support braces essentially fail which leads to a collapse.

The towers themselves did not collapse perfectly and I have no idea what you mean by that, you need to be more specific.

9/11 was no conspiracy, it was an act of terrorism. There are plenty of real conspiracies, there is no need to go inventing others. There are many resources by people unaffiliated with government debunking the 9/11 conspiracy claims, I suggest reading up on it and you will quickly discover that there is no real evidence or logic to support such a scenario.

You're right, but we've had these discussions here. Endlessly. People have said what you've said. And often, the conclusion is "I never thought about that before," but six months later it's "WTC7 HAD NO DAMAGE" all over again.

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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
9. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 15, 2014, 20:10 Beamer
Redmask wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 19:34:
LittleMe wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 15:14:
Cutter wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 14:35:
Yeah, welcome to 1984. When you look at all this shit that's happened since 9/11 how can you not believe it was inside job? Cui bono? Who benefits? Who benefited the most from 9/11? It sure as shit wasn't a bunch of Muslim sheepherders.

An important skill learned from a life of sheep herding is how to make metal melt from office fires when that's never happened before and also make a building mildly smoking collapse perfectly into its own footprint several hours later.

You don't think jet fuel burning in a concentrated environment can melt metal? The towers did not collapse perfectly, that's kind of ridiculous to imply considering the immense damage.

Don't. I mean, "has never happened before" is pretty obvious, right? A jetliner never hit a building before. And "collapse perfectly," I've shown at least a dozen times here a video that pretty clearly shows where the collapse started. If it was anything other than due to the impact, it would not have started at the impact. But it did. And it makes perfect sense - floors above fall and the natural weakness goes straight down.

Anyone still questioning this is just insane. Sorry, LittleMe, but it's such a weird thing to question by now.
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News Comments > Leaked Win10 Reveals Xbox App
24. Re: Leaked Win10 Reveals Xbox App Dec 15, 2014, 13:10 Beamer
Wildone wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 11:00:
I remember when there was a new windows ever 3-5 its every 6 months?!? Who the fuck updates so frequently. Im on 7 and quite happy


Windows 1.0: 1985
Windows 2.0: 1987
Windows 3.0: 1990
Windows 95: 1995
Windows 98: 1998
Windows 2000/ME: 2000
Windows XP: 2001
Windows Vista: 2007
Windows 7: 2009
Windows 8: 2012
Windows 10: 2015(?)

Which one was 6 months and not 3-5 years? 2009 to 2012, or 2012 to 2015?
Or do people just not really realize how much slower time is moving when they're in their 30s than in their teens?

If you're on 7, you're on an OS that is about to be 6 years old. That's at least two computers for most people here. That's like using Windows 98 in 2005.
I'm on 7. I like 7. I'm not going to cry about there being new versions in the 6 years since the OS I'm using was released.

6. Years. Think about 2009. Lost was the top TV show. Michael Jackson was alive. Walter Cronkite was alive. Saturn was alive. Heath Ledger was alive. Conan O'Brien was on NBC.

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News Comments > Op Ed
82. Re: Op Ed Dec 13, 2014, 14:01 Beamer
On Thanksgiving a friend of the family was telling me that she bought the game for her 11 year old son.
Her 11 year old son was there. I found out that day he kind of looks up to me (apparently he took Beats off his Christmas list because I said they were crap. I'm helping the world!)

I didn't sell him out. Didn't say not to give it to him. At 11 I was playing Mortal Kombat and loving it. GTAV is obviously significantly more mature. The super awkward strip club minigame that only an 11 year old could love. The weird racism from Trevor (which really only played out like shock value from a character looking to shock, not an actual judgment.)

At 11 I would have loved the game.
And he's already playing it at friend's houses.

When I think about the crap I watched at even younger ages.
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News Comments > Op Ed
70. Re: Op Ed Dec 12, 2014, 18:18 Beamer
Flatline wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 18:05:
Squirmer wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 17:54:
Some reviewers did mention the game's sexism at the time, though, like Gamespot, and it led to thousands of abusive comments and a reworking of Gamespot's comments system.

But more than that, yes I'm sure there's a certain amount of groupthink here, and I'm sure many critics had a great time with the game and only later started complaining about sexism. Maybe that makes them hypocritical to some extent, but it's also entirely possible to enjoy a game while disliking certain aspects of it. I don't think anyone is saying GTA5 is a bad game because it has these problems, or that nobody should play it. They just want some specific problems addressed.

I don't think losing the ability to hire prostitutes would actually hurt the game in any way. Especially since you get nothing out of it nowadays anyway.

Hiring prostitutes isn't the problem. Killing them is.

And I'm tired of people splitting split hairs. Have some guts and call them on their bullshit. You know, it's entirely possible to identify with a point of view while still disliking certain aspects of it. Right?

And oh but if only it was liking a game but not liking certain other aspects of it. If *only* the author had the guts to admit that of his industry. But see, it's not *his* problem. He and his are intellectually matured and have no need to change their opinions. It's everyone else who doesn't agree with them who need to come around.

I said I don't agree with it.
But, unlike some here, I think he's presenting a valid point of view that actual people think. And I'm not jumping to weird conclusions like assuming he's arguing that Rockstar shouldn't be allowed to make games like this.
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News Comments > Op Ed
58. Re: Op Ed Dec 12, 2014, 15:54 Beamer
Flatline wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 15:40:
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 15:37:

Where was polygon last year? That's right, giving it a 9.5/10. Fucking clickbait. Apparently Polygon has a serious misandry problem, what can Polygon do to correct this?

*fistbump* beat me to it.

I just don't get this argument, though.
One guy wrote the review, an entirely different guy wrote the Op/Ed.
A year passed between them, which is a considerable amount of time for opinions to be re-evaluated, anyway.
And it's possible for a game to be incredibly fun to play yet also have some absolutely terrible plot points that make people cringe.

Does everyone writing for a site have to share the same opinion?
Can opinions not change over time?
And can something bad in an otherwise great game not necessarily make the game not worth playing?

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News Comments > Op Ed
51. Re: Op Ed Dec 12, 2014, 14:32 Beamer
verybad1 wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 14:09:
Yeah, cause the majority of violence and inequality against women is done by hardcore videogame players!

Seriously, it's idiotic to consider the depiction of misogyny or other violence/inequality as actually being the cause or source of such.

Here's where the BS in the opinion article starts.

"Here is a game made by a company largely run by privileged, well-educated, wealthy people, and it mostly profits from portrayals of people who are none of those things."

You don't have to go out and do that shit. I too find it repulsive, but GTA:V has a lot of things to do, and the majority of them aren't killing prostitutes.

I can understand some women might be even more repulsed by that, and they don't have to buy the game and they can tell their male friends/relatives, etc that they shouldn't either and for what reason. No problem with that.

However I do have a problem with people trying to control what other people do/watch/play/etc for their own recreation so long as it is not actually causing harm.

Because I'm FAR more fucking terrified of a non free society than I am of jackasses axe-killing hookers in a videogame

Ok, you're wrong, though. At least what you quoted. Rockstar is a company largely run by privileged, well-educated wealthy people, and the games they make are largely populated by people that are none of those things. Only Michael qualifies as any of that, and even then, just wealthy and privileged.

But I also don't see how that's a huge problem. Playing people just like the people making the game gets tiresome.

However, there are plenty of studies that viewing things that are sexist/racist makes you more sexist/racist. When you see something in the media, it becomes a norm. You can't really deny that. What you can deny is the level of sexism/racism in a product.

Lastly, no one is saying we shouldn't have a free society. I really,really wish people would stop with that crap. If Disney were to make a film about black people eating watermelon or hispanic people being lazy today, it wouldn't go over well. Sure, Disney would be free to do it, in fact no one is stopping them, but people expect better from Disney. Likewise, the article is saying we should expect better from Rockstar.

No one is saying "write a law so Rockstar isn't able to do this!" they're saying "it's 2014, Rockstar shouldn't be choosing to do this." Hell, Blue even quoted the author saying that it's a free society and people should be able to buy it if they want and Rockstar should be able to make it if they want - they just shouldn't want to. they should want to make something better.
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News Comments > Op Ed
43. Re: Op Ed Dec 12, 2014, 13:50 Beamer
Slick wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 13:39:
Flatline wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 11:45:
If you'd argue that at times GTA5 can be sexist, then I'd agree with you, you'd get no argument from me. In fact, in a crime/lowlife simulator there is almost certainly going to be a negative light cast on many women. But I wouldn't immediately say "Oh the designers hate women and this game promotes hating women".

okay, so perhaps i'm not as learn'ed as some who carry around a pocket OED but to me the definition of "sexism" should not inherently concern only one sex (just as racism and prejudice are also concerned, no race or sex is implied with these word).

I'm almost through the GTA V campaign, and i gotta say, as far as a "negative light being cast", i'd say that men take the center stage. well, psychopaths take the center stage, who happen to all be men.

So how exactly is GTA sexist? because there are occasionally women in it? i'm not trying to sound cute, i genuinely do not understand how this works, or the rules going on here.

I don't think you can do much to deny that the way they handed the paparazzi missions was sexist.

I don't, though, think that the sex workers were. There were no missions designed around killing them. There was no special reward for killing them. Could you even hire them in this game? Maybe that's a bit too far into tasteless these days. It may be time to grow up there.

As others mentioned last time, the torture missions were as bad. And I cringed at mowing down a few hundred FBI/CIA/NSA agents rather than just killing the two stupid bad apples you kept doing missions for. The writing all around those missions were equally terrible.

However, the heists were a blast.
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News Comments > Op Ed
40. Re: Op Ed Dec 12, 2014, 13:39 Beamer
Task wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 13:18:
Slick wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 11:05:

even though i agree with all of that, and those are all good reasons, i don't agree with the fact that this should even be being discussed. it's censorship. the game is rated M for mature, no other media gets this treatment of freedom of expression. it's their right to make the game they want to make, and my right to play it, conversation ends there.

Oh I definitely know that, its an Adult game and marketed as such. People can buy what they want, just like someone can buy Game of Thrones will excessive Medieval violence and nudity. I would certainly not let a kid play GTA.

His point is that it's like Song of the South. I don't think many people would defend Song of the South being made today.

I don't think it's an unfair point, but not for the reason he's making it. So much of the sensibilities of GTAV felt like the half-baked crap we got in the early 2000s. It didn't feel like their writing had grown with their technical abilities.

I mean, RDR got crap for similar things as this Polygon article, didn't it? But RDR was well written and felt like it had a purpose. GTAV just seems like it's trying really hard. To me. But not saying a single damn thing. It's odd to me, because I think Dan Houser nailed the Max Payne 3 feel pretty well, and did a good job acknowledging the complaints people may have. It was a white guy going to a foreign location and killing a bunch of brown guys to save the day, but the game not only acknowledged that but put it as a fault on Max - he was a tool, good at one thing, being used for that one thing, with no purpose otherwise and mocked for exactly that while acknowledging how sad his life was to become that, rather than reveling in how awesome he/it was.

God, I want another RDR badly.
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
8. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 12, 2014, 13:34 Beamer
Slick wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 11:31:
mag wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 11:11:
Random question, hardware guys. So, I'm in a position where I might have to take a job out of the country for a while, which means the desktop's obviously not coming with me. I'm in the market for a new laptop anyway, so:

Anyone got a good recommendation for a gaming-capable laptop? I'm kinda aiming for 15", ~$1000, 1080p at least. I'm coming from an old Thinkpad, so I've gotten real used to having a nice keyboard on my laptop, and not feeling like the machine itself is apt to fall apart.

From poking around at the store: MSI seems to have real nice hardware, and the keyboard's okay, but the keyboard layout is kind of terrible. The Lenovo Y50 has "okay" hardware (kinda middling GPU), a pretty decent keyboard (for chiclets), but the trackpad kinda sucks (ugh buttonless trackpads).

i'd recommend a whitebook. they're brandless laptops with the same components direct from the manufacturer. CyberpowerPC sells em, as do a few others. 2 christmases ago I got myself a 1080p 15" matte screen (what I wanted, fuck that gloss son), 3630qm I7 quad core with HT, 16 gigs of ddr3 dominator ram, and a 256 gig SSD.

FOR $808 USD all-in. no taxes or shipping. it was a thanksgiving sale, look for the timed sales, there's some insane deals.

I'd lean towards the W230SS. It's a whitebook, with many companies selling it. That means you can find some giving away ridiculous things free in the config. 13.3" screen makes it light. xoticpc seems to have the best pricing right now, but with that SSD it'll come to $1200.
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News Comments > Op Ed
32. Re: Op Ed Dec 12, 2014, 12:52 Beamer
ForgedReality wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 12:48:
Beamer wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 12:42:
ForgedReality wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 12:23:
Beamer wrote on Dec 12, 2014, 12:07:
Saints Row does humor better, satire better, nuance better, and doesn't get so heavily stuck in being just gross.

But Saint's Row is nowhere near as fun! Once you complete that game, there is very little to bring you back to it to play again, at least in my experience. It never really draws me in the way a GTA game does, because its self-awareness just kind of gets old, I think. I'm not really sure what it is exactly, but Saint's Row lacks a lot of what makes GTA fun, rewarding, and keeps me going back. I even just like cruising around, enjoying the driving physics. Saint's Row is all crappy arcade nonsense.

The two games have different personalities, but while one takes itself far more seriously, that's also the one I find myself able to take more seriously and I find a certain level of gratification in that by itself--something that other game doesn't do so well. And once the novelty of "OMFG THIS IS HILARIOUS" (but not really all that much) has worn off, it's just a tired grind to the finish so I can put it away.

There's no denying that the engine/world of GTA is infinitely better than Saints Row. But the actual game of SR is infinitely better than GTA. Plot and characters aren't comparable. Other stuff is much more debatable, but I still give the edge to SR.

But man, the videos for GTAV on PC are unbelievable. It's shocking how enormous a jump that is. You'd think a game with that much going on wouldn't also have the best graphics, but there it is.

Did you just say SR had a plot?

Haha, fair. Though I'd say the entire plot with Michael Clarke Duncan was pretty well done. Other things not so much. 1 was terrible plotwise, 2 really grew.

Plus, Gat is a way better psychopath you want to spend time with than Trevor.
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